But not for phone calls or texts. I expect phones will ring and bleep inadvertently now on planes if the phone picks up a WiFi network or if the user forgets to turn off their WiFi settings much to the annoyance of fellow passengers and flight crew.
I suspect the aircraft WiFi operators will have thought of that and block the IP addresses that make WiFi calling work. This would be quite easy to achieve. I think they block Skype and Facetime and similar already - but they have a policy that you don't make voice calls, and the aircraft staff can tell you to stop I believe.
I suspect the aircraft WiFi operators will have thought of that and block the IP addresses that make WiFi calling work. This would be quite easy to achieve. I think they block Skype and Facetime and similar already - but they have a policy that you don't make voice calls, and the aircraft staff can tell you to stop I believe.
I can't test this as I'm on EE PAYG but a good way of simulating going abroad might be to use a VPN, unless Apple has configured WiFi calling to bypass VPN's?
But not for phone calls or texts. I expect phones will ring and bleep inadvertently now on planes if the phone picks up a WiFi network or if the user forgets to turn off their WiFi settings much to the annoyance of fellow passengers and flight crew.
But it's not that you "forget" to turn off wifi. You put it in airplane mode and then reenable wifi if you need it. So as I say, nothing changes, people will still by default put their phones into airplane mode.
But it's not that you "forget" to turn off wifi. You put it in airplane mode and then reenable wifi if you need it. So as I say, nothing changes, people will still by default put their phones into airplane mode.
Quite a kick in the nuts for Samsung who thought they'd have exclusivity on WiFi calling a week or 2 before Apple with the launch of the S6 tomorrow. I wonder if this will effect sales of the S6 now.
I was in Stratford this morning and EE didn't have anything in store to mention Wi-Fi calling. Meanwhile, the demo units of the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge were going in at some stores and tomorrow there will be plenty of Samsung marketing bods in various shops doing promotions.
Besides the Apple Watch, I think all eyes will be on Samsung tomorrow and the coming weeks and Wi-Fi calling will be a very small thing in comparison.
I can't test this as I'm on EE PAYG but a good way of simulating going abroad might be to use a VPN, unless Apple has configured WiFi calling to bypass VPN's?
I expect it would bypass a VPN, just as I can't use a VPN on my Android phone and then tether to a PC - that bypasses it too (and I need to use a VPN on the PC instead).
I was in Stratford this morning and EE didn't have anything in store to mention Wi-Fi calling. Meanwhile, the demo units of the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge were going in at some stores and tomorrow there will be plenty of Samsung marketing bods in various shops doing promotions.
Besides the Apple Watch, I think all eyes will be on Samsung tomorrow and the coming weeks and Wi-Fi calling will be a very small thing in comparison.
Which is a big shame as WiFI Calling has the potential to be a extremely useful thing for many people.
I expect it would bypass a VPN, just as I can't use a VPN on my Android phone and then tether to a PC - that bypasses it too (and I need to use a VPN on the PC instead).
I'm finding it hard to find a reason why you would need wifi calling to work over a VPN.
Maybe some weird esoteric unencrypted wifi setup where you don't get proper network or internet access until you use a VPN?
As has been mentioned, some people would really want it to be able to use wifi calling outside the UK (not that there is anything necessarily wrong with that, apart from not being able to call the local emergency services)
On that note, what happens under wifi calling if you call 999/101/111? There's no real way to identify what region of the country you are in, let alone address, so how would it know where to route the call? Would it jump down to local 2G/3G if available? Can it use GPS to find location? (like how E911 works in the US)
It's a shame that the iPhone can't support WiFi Calling and calling from a Mac via FaceTime at the same time. One or the other and it's not THAT quick to get in to the options. I could turn WiFi calling off at home and revert to my signal box, so I can get calls via the Mac but having to keep switching between is a bit of a chore.
I'd like to be able to enable and disable WiFi calling really quickly as it can be both a saviour and a nuisance. It gives me far better coverage inside the building at work, but if I start a call even near a building it's going to be connected to WiFi but with lack of VoLTE yet, if I wander around or go outside then it's a bit of a pain. Seems to switch APs within range quite nicely (our wifi system doesn't have seamless handoff).
I hope the phone checks the WiFi is open and working before switching. As some WiFi you have to go online first before and accept ts and cs first
It presumably won't "switch" until it successfully connects to the EE gateway, and it looks like EE are working on the issue of public wifi (like on the London Underground where they use the SIM card for automatic authentication)
It presumably won't "switch" until it successfully connects to the EE gateway, and it looks like EE are working on the issue of public wifi (like on the London Underground where they use the SIM card for automatic authentication)
As mentioned, O2 and The Cloud switch to EE WiFi Call with no user intervention. (passed by Costa/Nero/Superdrug and O2 shop). This will cause issues with calls initiated/received when passing by these shops then going out of range.
Not tried the BT Wifi with FON yet which I can access as part of my infinity bb.
Anyone here using wc on a s5 901f?
spoke to ee abouth something else and moved it round to wc.
was told wc will work on lolipop and kitkat. my a/c is set up for wc, but i missing the menu to turn it on/settings. he gone to find out why and call me back. hmmm.....
Anyone here using wc on a s5 901f?
spoke to ee abouth something else and moved it round to wc.
was told wc will work on lolipop and kitkat. my a/c is set up for wc, but i missing the menu to turn it on/settings. he gone to find out why and call me back. hmmm.....
All reports of WiFi calling on the S5 have been with lollipop. I reckon KitKat is unlikely to have the required settings for WiFi calling.
All reports of WiFi calling on the S5 have been with lollipop. I reckon KitKat is unlikely to have the required settings for WiFi calling.
yea, and hmmmm, i was hoping not, seems loli is still buggy and a drainer of batteries. and other wifi drop outs.
colleague at work did lolipop update and is not impressed. even after a hard reset.
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I suspect the aircraft WiFi operators will have thought of that and block the IP addresses that make WiFi calling work. This would be quite easy to achieve. I think they block Skype and Facetime and similar already - but they have a policy that you don't make voice calls, and the aircraft staff can tell you to stop I believe.
Could become an interesting problem!
Very interesting.
I've rummaged through the carrier file, and there's an option to turn on Roaming for WiFi Calling, so it's possible.
I'm not going abroad for a while, so unable to test it...
But it's not that you "forget" to turn off wifi. You put it in airplane mode and then reenable wifi if you need it. So as I say, nothing changes, people will still by default put their phones into airplane mode.
But airplane mode doesn't disable WiFi.
It does on an iPhone.
I enabled airplane mode earlier like I was told to on here and I was still able to make a WiFi call.
Not sure what to tell you.
On my i6, I swipe up to open the Control Centre, tap Airplane mode and the wifi symbol goes dim/off.
[Edit] - http://tinypic.com/r/51alib/8
Sorry you're right. Just checked. I forgot I had to re-enable WiFi in order for it to work with airplane mode switched on. Crisis averted.
I was in Stratford this morning and EE didn't have anything in store to mention Wi-Fi calling. Meanwhile, the demo units of the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge were going in at some stores and tomorrow there will be plenty of Samsung marketing bods in various shops doing promotions.
Besides the Apple Watch, I think all eyes will be on Samsung tomorrow and the coming weeks and Wi-Fi calling will be a very small thing in comparison.
I expect it would bypass a VPN, just as I can't use a VPN on my Android phone and then tether to a PC - that bypasses it too (and I need to use a VPN on the PC instead).
Which is a big shame as WiFI Calling has the potential to be a extremely useful thing for many people.
Yep, confirmed as working on O2 Wifi in Waitrose this afternoon. Not tried on The Cloud or BT yet.
Roll on VoLTE to make this absolutely AMAZING.
I'm finding it hard to find a reason why you would need wifi calling to work over a VPN.
Maybe some weird esoteric unencrypted wifi setup where you don't get proper network or internet access until you use a VPN?
As has been mentioned, some people would really want it to be able to use wifi calling outside the UK (not that there is anything necessarily wrong with that, apart from not being able to call the local emergency services)
On that note, what happens under wifi calling if you call 999/101/111? There's no real way to identify what region of the country you are in, let alone address, so how would it know where to route the call? Would it jump down to local 2G/3G if available? Can it use GPS to find location? (like how E911 works in the US)
I'd like to be able to enable and disable WiFi calling really quickly as it can be both a saviour and a nuisance. It gives me far better coverage inside the building at work, but if I start a call even near a building it's going to be connected to WiFi but with lack of VoLTE yet, if I wander around or go outside then it's a bit of a pain. Seems to switch APs within range quite nicely (our wifi system doesn't have seamless handoff).
Otherwise, very impressive.
It presumably won't "switch" until it successfully connects to the EE gateway, and it looks like EE are working on the issue of public wifi (like on the London Underground where they use the SIM card for automatic authentication)
I was getting that for the last 2 weeks before WiFi calling was introduced.
As mentioned, O2 and The Cloud switch to EE WiFi Call with no user intervention. (passed by Costa/Nero/Superdrug and O2 shop). This will cause issues with calls initiated/received when passing by these shops then going out of range.
Not tried the BT Wifi with FON yet which I can access as part of my infinity bb.
spoke to ee abouth something else and moved it round to wc.
was told wc will work on lolipop and kitkat. my a/c is set up for wc, but i missing the menu to turn it on/settings. he gone to find out why and call me back. hmmm.....
yea, and hmmmm, i was hoping not, seems loli is still buggy and a drainer of batteries. and other wifi drop outs.
colleague at work did lolipop update and is not impressed. even after a hard reset.