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Breaking: 'Several injured' in US cinema shooting
Hypnodisc
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33646707
Appeared on the BBC News site about 5 minutes ago.
Appeared on the BBC News site about 5 minutes ago.
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Hypnodisc, are you an American member?
No, I'm in the UK. Why do you ask?
Maybe this is more of a concern / breaking news: ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33635962
Although no disrespect to the US victims.
Concur !
If we are concerned about US "Breaking News" and gun crime:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33646704
Sadly I think it's the many gathered in confined spaces and fish in a barrel scenario.
Bad times.
Pretty much. End thread. if Sandy Hook didn't do anything nothing will.
So I think the way to go is education of right-wing republican gun nuts into just way they are obsessed with guns and why they think they are so great - Second thoughts, it would be easier to just try and force a constitutional change rather than try to educate them.
http://www.asia.ru/images/target/photo/50154932/Seahorse_Bubble_Gun.jpg
Hope you are not planning of traveling through Texas any time soon!
Their constitutional rights are dated and backwards. Changes for the better happen all over the world. It's about time America got with the times, they aren't living in the cowboy days anymore, it's 2015. If they can change the laws on same sex marriage then they can do the same with guns.
Oh yes, I agree whole heartedly with what you say and it shows how bad things are when they can force the republicans to have gay marriage but don't even think about taking their guns away.
Obama has tried his best and well done for the gay marriage, but it clearly shows what he is up against with not much progress in the gun laws. Not even a first little change of any kind.
You would think that by becoming the President, you would have the power to make change above and beyond anyone else.
The problem is that even if Obama changed the law tomorrow, they would have it thrown out of court by the afternoon as being "Unconstitutional" and so can't be done.
As you say the constitution was drawn up over 200 years ago when they were still under attack from red Indians (Native Americans) and they had muskets. No one needs to defend themselves in that way any more. (Especially if the other person also doesn't have a gun)
A lot of Americans would be willing to go to Civil war over this and if that happens I reckon the side with the guns will win.
Unfortunately nothing will change.
In fact that would be the only way to get anything through: Bring in a Constitutional Amendments Bill to update the constitution and have some things added to the rights as a sweetener (Like the right to free ice cream on Sundays) whilst cutting down or removing the right to bare arms. If they put enough 'sweeteners' in it then hopefully the majority would vote it in against the strong opposition of the NRA.
Yes but the Presidents side would still have the even bigger guns of the army, if need be.
Still they should still plough ahead with it and not live under threats of what might happen.
Well apparently they were showing a Amy Schumer comedy called Train Wreck, so can't see the tin foil hat brigade linking her or the film with this tragedy. So it could just be another day another shooting scenero, something of which will never change over there.
Now 2 dead plus the gunman:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33647535
"Police said the attacker was a 58-year-old white male armed with a handgun but did not release any further details."
My question is, especially with the younger group - why is there no initiative to identify and tackle the issue of white guys going on shooting sprees?
Though rare, there is a clear pattern.
Obama did an interview with John Sopal from the BBC yesterday, where he stated that getting nowhere with gun control was his biggest frustration. I suspect that the conspiracy nuts will accuse him of staging it to back up his comments. They'll grasp at anything!
That's the kind of coincidence that the truthers live for.