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Put social housing into wealthy areas like Mayfair to solve housing crisis.

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    DotheboyshallDotheboyshall Posts: 40,583
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    Terry N wrote: »
    The Residents' Society of Mayfair & St. James's would be aghast.
    What makes you think anyone lives there to be a resident. Half the are was bought by dodgy money by people who rarely stay there. It's just the rich person's version of Holiday Homes which harm the likes of Cornwall

    As for the OP - the properties need looking after so rather than making subterranean swimming pools and garages they could make servant quarters instead
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    Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    What if those pesky rich started all going to a private members bar rather than the "local"?
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    solarflaresolarflare Posts: 22,393
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    SJ_Mental wrote: »
    And a flat roof pub on every corner?

    ...that you're allowed to drive home from half-cut, naturally.
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    sadmuppetsadmuppet Posts: 8,222
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    solarflare wrote: »
    ...that you're allowed to drive home from half-cut, naturally.

    Especially if you're a learner driver.
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    whitecliffewhitecliffe Posts: 12,215
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    solarflare wrote: »
    ...that you're allowed to drive home from half-cut, naturally.

    or your chauffeur is. Just to make it equal
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    NilremNilrem Posts: 6,941
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    sadmuppet wrote: »
    Especially if you're a learner driver.

    In a vintage car?
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    I can just picture this proposal.

    Whilst the Queen is exercising her Corgi's in the palace grounds, outside in Green Park, the new incoming "Benefits on Berkeley Square" residents are walking their Staffies.

    Awwwww, how sweet!
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    mountymounty Posts: 19,239
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    Isnt that what DS does best.

    certainly is

    there is a surprisingly large number of whinging socialists on DS
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    nobodyherenobodyhere Posts: 1,313
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    No one is going to touch housing related problems with a 10 foot clown pole, a third of mps have secondry income from the property sector (where they have themselves declared a source of income via renting property) and the number is rising consecutively year on year

    A fair chunk of those are conservative mps, however labour don't get off so lightly either, my opinion is the problem goes beyond party politics and both sides are responsible in their failings to do anything about it
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    MesostimMesostim Posts: 52,864
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    mounty wrote: »
    certainly is

    there is a surprisingly large number of whinging socialists on DS

    And of course it's massively rare to see a right winger moaning about anything here... ;-)
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    biggle2000biggle2000 Posts: 3,588
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    The OP is really missing his calling. He should be a science fiction writer.:D
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    ianradioianianradioian Posts: 75,182
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    Its a free market economy. Subsidised housing costs a lot of money to maintain and private ownership means the costs are borne by the owners instead. Of we stopped letting a 1/3 of a million immigrants in each year that need housing we wouldn't be short of housing. New builds can't keep up. That's why there is pressure on housing.
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    ianradioianianradioian Posts: 75,182
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    Rent control caps. Rent would be the same across all of London. A 2 bed flat in Tower Hamlets or the Aylesbury Estate or Southwark would be the same as in Mayfair, Chelsea, Notting Hill etc.

    This is needed to combat the shortage of affordable homes.

    That's happening, in effect. The benefits cap will either stop rents rising because of a lack of tenants, or will push existing tenants out of expensive districts. The latter is what will happen.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 25,366
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    People do know that Housing Association properties are already available within the rich suburbs of London, right?
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    Gilbertoo wrote: »
    People do know that Housing Association properties are already available within the rich suburbs of London, right?

    I mentioned about the social housing in Mayfair and every other part of London upthread. Perhaps the thread is populated by non-London posters.
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    biggle2000biggle2000 Posts: 3,588
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    I mentioned about the social housing in Mayfair and every other part of London upthread. Perhaps the thread is populated by non-London posters.

    You are right. Thank you for that. Not being from London I would not have known this.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    biggle2000 wrote: »
    You are right. Thank you for that. Not being from London I would not have known this.

    I honestly wouldn't expect anyone from outside London to know that; I didn't realise the extent of it before I lived here. It just makes the subject of the thread a bit daft. Even the back of Buckingham Palace looks out over some really shabby-looking buildings.
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    welwynrosewelwynrose Posts: 33,666
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    There are 22K council owned property in Westminster, Peabody Homes also runs property in Westminster
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    asyousayasyousay Posts: 38,838
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    The best way would be the rich have one side of the city and the poor people take the other side .


    Because neither classes like the other side anyway :)


    This post is tongue in cheek!!!
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    bigtunesbigtunes Posts: 842
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    radyag wrote: »
    The snp have the right idea, they are building 12,000 council houses a year [it was 20,000 until the tory cuts] they are targeted in councils with the highest waiting lists and fewer properties.

    The main problem with the home counties is that the tory run councils refuse to built social housing because they know the tenants will not vote tory! They want to keep the poor out.

    Errr.... No they're not.

    Total houses completed in Scotland last financial year was 15,473 of those 4,221 were social housing of all flavours.

    Looking at the data from here there's never been anywhere near 20,000 social homes built in a financial year, no mater who's been in power.

    What they did pledge was to build 30,000 new homes over the lifetime of the Parliament, which means they'll need to up completions by about 40% per annum to get anywhere near that.
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    wenchwench Posts: 8,928
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    Simple, stop selling off council housing, then it won't be purchased by investors!
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    An ThropologistAn Thropologist Posts: 39,865
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    sadmuppet wrote: »
    Presumably a flat-roofed estate pub...

    Are those the ones without windows? :)

    OP. What makes you think that homes in Mayfair are rented and not owner occupied? How do you propose to fund the compulsory purchase of these buildings? Do you know what land prices are in central London? Don't you think you might get more bang for your buck to create social housing in areas where land prices are lower. Or are you advocating a full command economy - they always work so well. :)

    Perhaps a more realistic line to take to meet your aims, would be to prevent multiple home ownership and the secondary sale/purchase of social housing.

    So many of the former council houses I know of that were sold to their occupiers in the 80's were later sold as buy to let jobbies.
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    Poppy99_PoppyPoppy99_Poppy Posts: 2,255
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    I used to live in Covent Garden in a block of flats that was a mixture of social housing and private owners. That would be seen as a wealthy area, but not as expensive as Mayfair.

    Multiple choice question.

    Did the people in social housing think:

    A) I have fallen on my feet here, aren't I lucky to be living rent free/low rent for a central location which other people have paid a lot of money for

    Or

    B) I have fallen on my feet here, aren't I lucky to be living rent free/low rent etc, but I will turn it into a slum anyway.

    Unfortunately it was the latter.
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