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Putin 'land Grab On Crimea' British Empire Was Theft
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David Cameron is shy on Putin 'land grab on Crimea' for good reason because the British are the greatest thieves of all, as far as land theft is concerned and the US isn't far behind with Texas and New Mexico. Putin knows all this which is why he has a free run.
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Scrub that I see what you are up to from other threads of yours, the NI related ones.
The War starts small, and then it quickly get's worse
I hope we're not heading back to cold war era
How about if Putin wants another country next week, should we all sit back and say "oh well we did it hundreds of years ago so I suppose its ok" if we do that it wont be long before he is annexing and taking over like Hitler did.
I suppose on the up side it would increase employment via the military and in the arms trade. But it wouldn't be my choice of helping the economy.
Uh...it's the 21st century. I think you'll find most British people don't give a **** about what the British Empire was up to.
Yup, this has occured to me.
we still own a section of the country next to us. And weve got a bit of Spain. It wasnt too long ago we "generously" gave back to China the bit of that country we nicked.
The reason why Putin wont REALLY be punished is twofold: Firstly he nuclear capacity, making all out war suicidal. Secondly the Russians are too important economically esp for Europe to be punished severely.
We're gonna have to do some serious arselicking of the Chinese govt in the future too
Therein lies some of the problem.
I don't think people fully understand Britain's role in screwing the world over throughout history.
Does the OP actually realise that Russia had its OWN colonial past???
I don't think people fully understand Holland's, or Portugal's, or Spain's, or Belgium's, or France's, or Italy's, or Germany's either....OR Tsarist Russia's...
They do, but they recognise that it is history.
Despite having played absolute no part in the empire whatsoever are all of today's Britons supposed to be eternal apologists for the actions of our ancestors?
No.....
And CERTAINLY not if the Russians can't or won't bring themselves to apologise for their ancestors' actions...
Totally agree. The British Empire was no different than any other colonial power and it was a symptom/statement of the times which did both "good" and "evil".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html
According to this article, the Queen owns more land than the Russian Federation:
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/03/queen-state-territories
Is that a huge chip on your shoulder or just a potato ?
Wonderful point
Just like Crimea wants to be a part of Russia.
Well if I was Cameron and someone made that point I would mention... that the referendum was not condemned by the international community (except Argentina); that it was overseen by a committee from other countries, US, Mexico, Chile, Paraguay and others; and that the the constitution of the Falklands expressly permits self determination thus making the referendum legal under international law.
I personally have no issue with the people of Crimea wishing to return to Russian sovereignty if they wish - I do however have an issue with the way this was done - the time-scale... the lack of concern or discussion with the minority peoples of the Crimea; the Russian soldiers presence etc etc. This was an annexation under arms and whilst Putin says he has no further ambitions in this area... well, we have heard that before (except in German).
As you say, the BE example is facile - and even if it were not... two wrongs don't make a right and I feel for those in the Crimea who might have wanted a proper, lawful and somewhat more thoroughly discussed change of their sovereignty, especially without all the guns being waved about.
What I find scary is that the news reports on Threads sound exactly like the news reports from a week or two ago.
sadly the idiots that run the world ,will not care how there actions real effect the real people on Earth.
Gibraltar as many Gibraltarian's will tell you is not and never will be part of Spain, as for the "bit of country" we gave back to China. Hong Kong was on loan to us and we rightfully gave it back when that 100 year(or whatever it was) lease was up. We did not nick it from China.
Also what do you think Russia are doing now? They are trying to take a part of a country that doesn't belong to them just like you are implying the British have done.
Perhaps they should get together......
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