Will the new London local TV multiplex be available in the South East as well in the 800s?
No, it won't. It'll be for London only. The local TV channel for London on channel 8 plus two extra videostreams, on yet allocated channel numbers. Also note the context of the Twitter conversation.
No, it won't. It'll be for London only. The local TV channel for London on channel 8 plus two extra videostreams, on yet allocated channel numbers. Also note the context of the Twitter conversation.
Well London has 24/7 Argos to look forward to then.:p;):D
Well London has 24/7 Argos to look forward to then.:p;):D
Not neccessarily. Any deal between Canis Media and broadcasters to transmit on the "Manchester Television Network" as they call it does not equate to a carriage deal in the future on the new local multiplexes.
Not neccessarily. Any deal between Canis Media and broadcasters to transmit on the "Manchester Television Network" as they call it does not equate to a carriage deal in the future on the new local multiplexes.
Will the new local multiplexes.be UK wide or just Manchester & London?
Are these IPTV? Surely there isn't space for 10 channels on a local multiplex, unless it's configured like a normal multiplex?
The current Manchester configuration allows for a total of six TV channels. Arqiva got up to nine on one 16QAM mux, but that was with the latest encoders not the second hand stuff being used in Manchester.
I assume that stuff like Movies4Men, Thane Direct and Sony SAB or similar will be on the menu to fill up those channel slots. Come on, you just know you want more teleshopping, dazb.
Complete and utter rubbish more shopping haha i think not. Fortunatley i pay for Sky seeing im left with little alternative as im a big lover of sport mainly football.
I was under the impression that the pre-DSO DTT antenna was close to the top of the CP mast (219m)?
The proposed local antennas will be mounted at 127m. The radiation pattern indicates at least a 1 dB restriction i.e. ~ 15 kW max ERP.
The 127 m will reduce the area covered, but with the lover modulation/FEC the signal may well be much more robust - where available.
A 20kW DVB-T2 16-QAM CR=1/2 would have a bitrate of 15 Mbps and be as robust as the 200kW main CP muxes - except for the lower TX antenna.
DVb-T2 has been broadcast from CP for 2 1/2 years now. How many FreeviewHD receivers are already active in the area covered? How many before this local mux can start ?
Oh Gawd, I can see it now - more friggin' shopping channels, a music channel with about 6 viewers and the obligatory Asian stasian.
And all of them in Super Misty Vision.
Thanks a516 - I had seen the draft of that document but not the final version including the 'enhanced' London coverage.
LOL @ 'In the light of comments from potential licence applicants, a revised technical plan has been prepared in order to provide improved coverage compared to the baseline coverage technical plan for this site.'
To be read as 'Jeremy, us big boys are only really interested in the London licence and you have let us down by not allowing us to reach the advertising account holders who live in the home counties. Give us our licence to print money and get those OFCOM people to let us turn the wick up or we will walk away from your pet project'...
There seems to be some sort of change partly underway this lunchtime. The LCN tables as broadcast across all muxes from Winter Hill are showing a new LCN on the Manchester mux - using the temporary LCN of 790:
0000: 75 01 fc 3b 74 81 fc 39 [B][U]75 41 ff 16[/U][/B] 74 c1 fc 3a u..;t..9uA..t..:
0010: 74 41 fc 38 tA.8
also in the Transport Descriptor it shows as:
service_ID: 30017 (0x7541)[ --> refers to PMT program_number]
service_type: 1 (0x01) [= digital television service]
However there's no new PIDs on the Manchester mux yet, so the channel isn't yet being broadcast.
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Just retuned the hotel TV here in Cheadle and enjoying the delights of duplicate Argos TV!
link http://twitter.com/a516_digital
Well London has 24/7 Argos to look forward to then.:p;):D
Will the new local multiplexes.be UK wide or just Manchester & London?
The local london multiplex has a restricted coverage area - even parts of south london won't get it.
More channel still to come for Manchester.
They'll be proper linear channels and here's what they said:
The 6 new channels will include movie channels, shopping channels and the first Asian broadcaster to broadcast on Freeview.
It sound like they've got all those new channel slots already filled.
The latest London local engineering plan is for enhanced coverage with a 20kW ERP. If so coverage would be similar to pre-DSO.
The current Manchester configuration allows for a total of six TV channels. Arqiva got up to nine on one 16QAM mux, but that was with the latest encoders not the second hand stuff being used in Manchester.
I assume that stuff like Movies4Men, Thane Direct and Sony SAB or similar will be on the menu to fill up those channel slots. Come on, you just know you want more teleshopping, dazb.
Do you have a link Ray? Does it include coverage map or antenna template?
It's hidden away on the Ofcom website. On travels at the moment (DS Forums and Ofcom site very fiddly on mobile devices!), but its somewhere on http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/broadcasting/tv/local-tv-services/
EDIT: http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/tv/local-tv/coverage-note.pdf
I was under the impression that the pre-DSO DTT antenna was close to the top of the CP mast (219m)?
The proposed local antennas will be mounted at 127m. The radiation pattern indicates at least a 1 dB restriction i.e. ~ 15 kW max ERP.
The 127 m will reduce the area covered, but with the lover modulation/FEC the signal may well be much more robust - where available.
A 20kW DVB-T2 16-QAM CR=1/2 would have a bitrate of 15 Mbps and be as robust as the 200kW main CP muxes - except for the lower TX antenna.
DVb-T2 has been broadcast from CP for 2 1/2 years now. How many FreeviewHD receivers are already active in the area covered? How many before this local mux can start ?
Lars
And all of them in Super Misty Vision.
Thanks a516 - I had seen the draft of that document but not the final version including the 'enhanced' London coverage.
LOL @ 'In the light of comments from potential licence applicants, a revised technical plan has been prepared in order to provide improved coverage compared to the baseline coverage technical plan for this site.'
To be read as 'Jeremy, us big boys are only really interested in the London licence and you have let us down by not allowing us to reach the advertising account holders who live in the home counties. Give us our licence to print money and get those OFCOM people to let us turn the wick up or we will walk away from your pet project'...
EPG data seems to be there for most channels now:
Screenshot
also in the Transport Descriptor it shows as:
However there's no new PIDs on the Manchester mux yet, so the channel isn't yet being broadcast.