Are other situation comedy actors harried in such a way for the actions of their on screen persona?
None of them are "actors" so your point is ... well, pointless. They are "personalities" and while the show may be scripted, they are essentially playing themselves, albeit a caricaturised version.
If Clarkson genuinely thinks the xenophobic bigot aspects of his nature are entertaining, someone needs to put him straight.
Judging by your post I doubt you've even met a black person let alone have any as friends. How transparent are you.
Indeed, "My black friends tell me that........." - I always find it quite amusing how the most obscure of topics has always conveniently arisen for conversation between them at some point.
None of them are "actors" so your point is ... well, pointless. They are "personalities" and while the show may be scripted, they are essentially playing themselves, albeit a caricaturised version..
A caricature is a rendered image showing the features of its subject in a simplified or exaggerated way.
In literature, a caricature is a description of a person using exaggeration of some characteristics and oversimplification of others.[1]
Caricatures can be insulting or complimentary and can serve a political purpose or be drawn solely for entertainment. Caricatures of politicians are commonly used in editorial cartoons, while caricatures of movie stars are often found in entertainment magazines.
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In this case the caricature would be the on-screen persona which they are portraying.
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None of them are "actors" so your point is ... well, pointless. They are "personalities" and while the show may be scripted, they are essentially playing themselves, albeit a caricaturised version.
If Clarkson genuinely thinks the xenophobic bigot aspects of his nature are entertaining, someone needs to put him straight.
The issue isn't whether Clarkson thinks his public persona is entertaining, he knows it is. It clearly entertains many people who are prepared to excuse him on the basis that his "schtick" is pushing the boundaries and if he sometimes oversteps and actually offends people e.g. the "slopes" incident then it's only proves that people are too easily offended. In any case it was a joke and these things must be taken in context.
Therefore there is no reason to condemn Clarkson for considering using the word n****r or something that sounded like it in a twice pre-recorded piece to camera. Indeed he should be praised for his good taste and sensitivity in deciding that it was not possible to broadcast the original version and leave enough plausible deniability of any intention to offend.
His clumsy and weak apology after the tape came to light merely emphasises how sensible he was although given that the arguments came so readily to his many supporters, it is a surprise that he didn't also mention that it was a in the context of a joke and a nursery rhyme which as a 50 odd year old man he cannot help repeating, that any criticism only came from the PC brigade (it's important to use the word brigade as it implies a lack of individual thought) and mainly that he didn't actually say the word.
When I was a kid in the 50s it was 'sit the baby on the po(no idea how you spell it), etc' . It was a PE teacher at Grammar School, where many of the kids came from the Doncaster environs, who introduced me to the other version. I remember thinking it a bit odd. Old salt of the earth everyone loved her Miss Music teacher had no problem with the english title of Petit negre which she would use in a variety of contexts - none, I think, malign.
The issue isn't whether Clarkson thinks his public persona is entertaining, he knows it is. It clearly entertains many people who are prepared to excuse him on the basis that his "schtick" is pushing the boundaries and if he sometimes oversteps and actually offends people e.g. the "slopes" incident then it's only proves that people are too easily offended. In any case it was a joke and these things must be taken in context.
Therefore there is no reason to condemn Clarkson for considering using the word n****r or something that sounded like it in a twice pre-recorded piece to camera. Indeed he should be praised for his good taste and sensitivity in deciding that it was not possible to broadcast the original version and leave enough plausible deniability of any intention to offend.
His clumsy and weak apology after the tape came to light merely emphasises how sensible he was although given that the arguments came so readily to his many supporters, it is a surprise that he didn't also mention that it was a in the context of a joke and a nursery rhyme which as a 50 odd year old man he cannot help repeating, that any criticism only came from the PC brigade (it's important to use the word brigade as it implies a lack of individual thought) and mainly that he didn't actually say the word.
Yeah, let's all give him credit fire being offensive.
Top Gear has recently been filming at Castle Combe at an event known as "Jap Day" which apparently involves racing cars made in Japan. The mind boggles at the opportunities that will present to Clarkson to accidentally say something controversial.
Incidentally it was reported that Clarkson himself only drove a single lap of the track in a car and then disappeared so it will be interesting to see how it appears in the final version.
According to a post which was made in my thread about the N word, Clarkson has used the word several times before in books. If this is true - and I've no idea because I've not read the books listed - then it makes Clarkson a hypocritical liar to pretend he hates the use of the word.
According to a post which was made in my thread about the N word, Clarkson has used the word several times before in books. If this is true - and I've no idea because I've not read the books listed - then it makes Clarkson a hypocritical liar to pretend he hates the use of the word.
I haven't read the books either, but if he did use the N word in his writing, surely it would be down to the context in which it was used. 'X is a dirty ******' versus '****** is an unacceptable word.' Simplistic, but you get the idea. How can you therefore say that he is a 'hypocritical liar' for using the word, if you haven't read the books and don't know exactly what was said?
It's all about context, context, CONTEXT. I don't know why people have so much trouble understanding it. It's not rocket science FFS.
According to a post which was made in my thread about the N word, Clarkson has used the word several times before in books. If this is true - and I've no idea because I've not read the books listed - then it makes Clarkson a hypocritical liar to pretend he hates the use of the word.
Depends on the context of its use. I don't subscribe to this "N word" nonsense, where it becomes offensive to even write or say the word n*gger in all contextual use, as I'm sure you would agree.
I haven't read the books either, but if he did use the N word in his writing, surely it would be down to the context in which it was used. 'X is a dirty ******' versus '****** is an unacceptable word.' Simplistic, but you get the idea. How can you therefore say that he is a 'hypocritical liar' for using the word, if you haven't read the books and don't know exactly what was said?
It's all about context, context, CONTEXT. I don't know why people have so much trouble understanding it. It's not rocket science FFS.
Well, once, maybe. But why would he need to make the point that the N word is unacceptable four times ?
In any case, can you honestly see Clarkson making such an anti racist point in his books ? - seriously ? ;-)
Depends on the context of its use. I don't subscribe to this "N word" nonsense, where it becomes offensive to even write or say the word n*gger in all contextual use, as I'm sure you would agree.
Depends on the context of its use. I don't subscribe to this "N word" nonsense, where it becomes offensive to even write or say the word n*gger in all contextual use, as I'm sure you would agree.
This is what strikes me as utterly bizarre about these incidents.
How have we managed to invest a single word with so much evil and offensiveness that the mere hearing or sight of it, regardless of context, is deemed so utterly abhorrent that the individual responsible, even indirectly, must be castigated / fired etc? It's only a word, for heaven's sake.
As someone who grew up in the 1970s, I don't remember the 'N word' (I mean FFS, how juvenile is that phrase?) being all that common anyway. It was much more common in America. Do we now have to import our taboo words from across the pond as well?
It's as if we've reinvented blasphemy for a secular age:
All I said was 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah'.
He said it again! You're only making it worse for yourself!
Of course it's an unacceptable word but does it really deserve all this hysteria that we attach to it?
The most bizarre thing of all is that it's OK for the people for whom it was an insult, to use the word freely. Somehow all the evil and offensiveness mysteriously disappears then. 'Oh my God. I've just seen the 'N word' in this book.:o. I'm traumatised. Oh wait, it's written by a black bloke so that's totally cool. Phew, close shave there'.
The thing I find bizarre is that a fair number of people who ordinarily, I assume, as they don't like the man, and frequently express the strangest and most vehement hatred of him, still take the time to watch, just so they can be offended, and form the net equivalent of a lynch mob. What's the matter? Clarkson more successful than you? Richer than you? Get a life for god's sake, don't waste it on him.
The thing I find bizarre is that a fair number of people who ordinarily, I assume, as they don't like the man, and frequently express the strangest and most vehement hatred of him, still take the time to watch, just so they can be offended, and form the net equivalent of a lynch mob. What's the matter? Clarkson more successful than you? Richer than you? Get a life for god's sake, don't waste it on him.
Yep, coz every hated person is richer; more successful; better looking etc, etc than those who hate them.
This is what strikes me as utterly bizarre about these incidents.
How have we managed to invest a single word with so much evil and offensiveness that the mere hearing or sight of it, regardless of context, is deemed so utterly abhorrent that the individual responsible, even indirectly, must be castigated / fired etc? It's only a word, for heaven's sake.
As someone who grew up in the 1970s, I don't remember the 'N word' (I mean FFS, how juvenile is that phrase?) being all that common anyway. It was much more common in America. Do we now have to import our taboo words from across the pond as well?
It's as if we've reinvented blasphemy for a secular age:
All I said was 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah'.
He said it again! You're only making it worse for yourself!
Of course it's an unacceptable word but does it really deserve all this hysteria that we attach to it?
The most bizarre thing of all is that it's OK for the people for whom it was an insult, to use the word freely. Somehow all the evil and offensiveness mysteriously disappears then. 'Oh my God. I've just seen the 'N word' in this book.:o. I'm traumatised. Oh wait, it's written by a black bloke so that's totally cool. Phew, close shave there'.
It's all about power, always has been always will be.
Constantly wrong foot people and they find it harder and harder to object to anything that is imposed on them.
People call people racist not because they give a brass monkey about whether they are, but it bestows a little bit more power from them to you.
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None of them are "actors" so your point is ... well, pointless. They are "personalities" and while the show may be scripted, they are essentially playing themselves, albeit a caricaturised version.
If Clarkson genuinely thinks the xenophobic bigot aspects of his nature are entertaining, someone needs to put him straight.
I'm sorry but this is a stupid statement. So what if he is different off screen than he is on? What he says it's still offensive.
Indeed, "My black friends tell me that........." - I always find it quite amusing how the most obscure of topics has always conveniently arisen for conversation between them at some point.
I wouldn't quite put him in that category, but I do think he's an obnoxious, arrogant tosspot.
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In this case the caricature would be the on-screen persona which they are portraying.
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I think his bank balance, and ratings, would tell him otherwise.
Are you selling tickets for that?
You have to oil us up.
Deal!
The issue isn't whether Clarkson thinks his public persona is entertaining, he knows it is. It clearly entertains many people who are prepared to excuse him on the basis that his "schtick" is pushing the boundaries and if he sometimes oversteps and actually offends people e.g. the "slopes" incident then it's only proves that people are too easily offended. In any case it was a joke and these things must be taken in context.
Therefore there is no reason to condemn Clarkson for considering using the word n****r or something that sounded like it in a twice pre-recorded piece to camera. Indeed he should be praised for his good taste and sensitivity in deciding that it was not possible to broadcast the original version and leave enough plausible deniability of any intention to offend.
His clumsy and weak apology after the tape came to light merely emphasises how sensible he was although given that the arguments came so readily to his many supporters, it is a surprise that he didn't also mention that it was a in the context of a joke and a nursery rhyme which as a 50 odd year old man he cannot help repeating, that any criticism only came from the PC brigade (it's important to use the word brigade as it implies a lack of individual thought) and mainly that he didn't actually say the word.
Yeah, let's all give him credit fire being offensive.
This is has all gone nuts now. What's the next 'naughty word' to be 'unmentionable'?
Life has become like constantly walking on eggshells.
Not to me it isn't.
Incidentally it was reported that Clarkson himself only drove a single lap of the track in a car and then disappeared so it will be interesting to see how it appears in the final version.
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I haven't read the books either, but if he did use the N word in his writing, surely it would be down to the context in which it was used. 'X is a dirty ******' versus '****** is an unacceptable word.' Simplistic, but you get the idea. How can you therefore say that he is a 'hypocritical liar' for using the word, if you haven't read the books and don't know exactly what was said?
It's all about context, context, CONTEXT. I don't know why people have so much trouble understanding it. It's not rocket science FFS.
Depends on the context of its use. I don't subscribe to this "N word" nonsense, where it becomes offensive to even write or say the word n*gger in all contextual use, as I'm sure you would agree.
Well, once, maybe. But why would he need to make the point that the N word is unacceptable four times ?
In any case, can you honestly see Clarkson making such an anti racist point in his books ? - seriously ? ;-)
Given his track record, I think not.
I agree.
Ha! No. But you see what I'm saying. You simply can't make a judgement without considering the context.
This is what strikes me as utterly bizarre about these incidents.
How have we managed to invest a single word with so much evil and offensiveness that the mere hearing or sight of it, regardless of context, is deemed so utterly abhorrent that the individual responsible, even indirectly, must be castigated / fired etc? It's only a word, for heaven's sake.
As someone who grew up in the 1970s, I don't remember the 'N word' (I mean FFS, how juvenile is that phrase?) being all that common anyway. It was much more common in America. Do we now have to import our taboo words from across the pond as well?
It's as if we've reinvented blasphemy for a secular age:
All I said was 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah'.
He said it again! You're only making it worse for yourself!
Of course it's an unacceptable word but does it really deserve all this hysteria that we attach to it?
The most bizarre thing of all is that it's OK for the people for whom it was an insult, to use the word freely. Somehow all the evil and offensiveness mysteriously disappears then. 'Oh my God. I've just seen the 'N word' in this book.:o. I'm traumatised. Oh wait, it's written by a black bloke so that's totally cool. Phew, close shave there'.
Yep, coz every hated person is richer; more successful; better looking etc, etc than those who hate them.
It's all about power, always has been always will be.
Constantly wrong foot people and they find it harder and harder to object to anything that is imposed on them.
People call people racist not because they give a brass monkey about whether they are, but it bestows a little bit more power from them to you.
Your perspective would probably change had you ever encountered racism in real life.
And you know that how exactly?