So what's next? Attention Deficiency Disorder? S/he screws up every case because they haven't been paying the slightest bit of notice to what's going on around them.
I think it would be a great idea to have a detective with Tourette's syndrome.
Just imagine the scenario.... all the suspects are together in the same room while the detective outlines 'who did it', interspersed with shouts of 'bastard!' 'f****r!', 'w*****r!', and so on, while he builds up to telling us who the murderer is.
Of course, they would have to exclude him from press conferences, or perhaps, as in this series, they know he has a problem but expect him to do the conference anyway...
I'll see you here next May, when Shearsmith is nominated for a Best Actor BAFTA for "The Widower". Pemberton on the other hand - is always camp and dreadful. No difference between him in Beniidorm and Whitechapel, both ghastly over the top shows.
I think both Shearsmith and Pemberton are good. Shearsmith has played varied roles and I think people are underselling the nuances to his characters in Psychoville (Mr Jelly, Maureen and the librarian were all distinct characters), and in Inside No 9. He played an ordinary person in the Tom and Gerri episode with no silly voices/costume/etc and I found his performance believable and tragic.
I haven't seen much of Pemberton's other work, but he was very good in Happy Valley!
I'll see you here next May, when Shearsmith is nominated for a Best Actor BAFTA for "The Widower". Pemberton on the other hand - is always camp and dreadful. No difference between him in Beniidorm and Whitechapel, both ghastly over the top shows.
He may well get nominated for The Widower, as he did played that just fine, but he is playing the same character style in this series, so I wondering if that is really all he can do, there has been many an actor, who has won a BAFTA etc, on the one brilliant part, but that is like an author who has just one great novel in them.
I thought you and Pemberton were absolutely brilliant in Psychoville, and I would even go as far as to say that, in my opinion, it was better than LOG, the writing, the plotting, the acting, everything. .
So don't let the comments get to you. It's the mediocre writing that's letting you down in this cliched, formulaic piece of instantly forgettable television. You should have written it yourself, or at the very least rewrote it.
Hee hee. Though Psychoville isn't as good as TLOG.
I think perhaps Shearsmith does a lot better when he's written the character himself. I remember reading an article he did for Digital Spy in which he said that he wouldn't do a script that was worse than one he (or I guess The League) could have written, which sounds a bit arrogant but is fair enough. I think he is a lot more able to perform the characters when he can create them from scratch rather than working off a script.
He can do low key characters as well; for example, Ross in The League of Gentlemen, who isn't a grotesque in the way Edward is. He's one of the, er, 'normal' residents. I think he's just probably more drawn towards surreal things- nothing wrong with that.
I think it would be a great idea to have a detective with Tourette's syndrome.
Just imagine the scenario.... all the suspects are together in the same room while the detective outlines 'who did it', interspersed with shouts of 'bastard!' 'f****r!', 'w*****r!', and so on, while he builds up to telling us who the murderer is.
Of course, they would have to exclude him from press conferences, or perhaps, as in this series, they know he has a problem but expect him to do the conference anyway...
Hilarious! Honestly, I don't buy for a second that he would achieve and be able to maintain such a high position.
Puzzled because of all the negative reactions to Shearsmith. Do none of you
know that he he is a multi award winning, Olivier nominated actor and writer
of 15 years of startlingly original television? Not versatile?! In the League of Gentlemen
ALONE he played over 60 characters! And most recently in "Inside No 9" he was utterly
brilliant and different in six distinctive roles.
Reece Shearsmith is certainly highly talented, and great at putting on an act. But there is a difference between "putting on an act" and acting in a serious drama role.
There is a long list of people who are terrific at putting on an act - such as Paul Whitehouse, Harry Enfield, Alistair McGowan, Rory Bremner and so on. I love watching them pretend to be someone else. Each of them is very versatile and could put on an act as an "autistic or is he?" detective, pull the right face, use the correct voice, move in a certain way etc. but I don't think that they would convince me that they were doing anything other than putting on an act.
I think that Reece Shearsmith is in that category.
Reece Shearsmith is certainly highly talented, and great at putting on an act. But there is a difference between "putting on an act" and acting in a serious drama role.
There is a long list of people who are terrific at putting on an act - such as Paul Whitehouse, Harry Enfield, Alistair McGowan, Rory Bremner and so on. I love watching them pretend to be someone else. Each of them is very versatile and could put on an act as an "autistic or is he?" detective, pull the right face, use the correct voice, move in a certain way etc. but I don't think that they would convince me that they were doing anything other than putting on an act.
I think that Reece Shearsmith is in that category.
I agree, he is just not making me believe in him, he has not got the acting skill to play the part in any depth, the skill of a good actor is to forget about the actor, but all I see is Reece Shearsmith, nothing more.
I agree, he is just not making me believe in him, he has not got the acting skill to play the part in any depth, the skill of a good actor is to forget about the actor, but all I see is Reece Shearsmith, nothing more.
That's funny - because when I watch Jack Nicholson all I see is Jack Nicholson,
when I look at Al Pacino all I see us Al Pacino. When I look at Alex Kingston all I see us Alex Kingston. When I look at David Tennant all I see is David Tennant.. (Do you see what I'm getting at).
That's funny - because when I watch Jack Nicholson all I see is Jack Nicholson,
when I look at Al Pacino all I see us Al Pacino. When I look at Alex Kingston all I see us Alex Kingston. When I look at David Tennant all I see is David Tennant.. (Do you see what I'm getting at).
I think you will find that most people can see the difference between a great actor playing a part, even if they are very well known, and a lesser actor in the same role. It is hard to explain it but a good actor becomes the character, a lesser actor pretends to be the character.
Did you see Meryl Streep as Thatcher - she looked a lot more like Meryl Streep than Margaret Thatcher, but she possessed the role. If Janet Brown or one of the others who did a great impersonation of Thatcher had tried to play the part it would have terrible. Or think of the way Michael Sheen, a great actor, played Brian Clough, Tony Blair or David Frost. He looked pretty much the same in each part but he was able to become them convincingly; far better than any impressionist could.
I think you will find that most people can see the difference between a great actor playing a part, even if they are very well known, and a lesser actor in the same role. It is hard to explain it but a good actor becomes the character, a lesser actor pretends to be the character.
Did you see Meryl Streep as Thatcher - she looked a lot more like Meryl Streep than Margaret Thatcher, but she possessed the role. If Janet Brown or one of the others who did a great impersonation of Thatcher had tried to play the part it would have terrible. Or think of the way Michael Sheen, a great actor, played Brian Clough, Tony Blair or David Frost. He looked pretty much the same in each part but he was able to become them convincingly; far better than any impressionist could.
That's funny - because when I watch Jack Nicholson all I see is Jack Nicholson,
when I look at Al Pacino all I see us Al Pacino. When I look at Alex Kingston all I see us Alex Kingston. When I look at David Tennant all I see is David Tennant.. (Do you see what I'm getting at).
In the case of Al Panico, Jack Nicholson, etc that is fine as they have great screen presence, in some ways you happy to see them as they are screen giants, that is the difference..
Just caught up with this. I didn't think it was too bad, kept me watching anyway.
It does suffer in comparison to The Bridge, but that was outstanding. The complex character of Saga Noren was beautifully played by Sofia Helin. You could follow her desperate attempts to fit in and understand the world around her. It was sad at times, but it could also be hilariously funny. On top of that you have her strange and subtle relationship with her police partner Martin (Kim Bodnia)..a sort of love that is never declared. Great stuff.
I don't think Shearsmith is trying to play his character in the same way. His version is more.."that's the way I am, live with it". So in that repect there's nothing like the same depth of character. But presumably that was the writer's/director's decision. Screen presence can help, but ultimately all actors are only as good as their script.
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Which, being translated, means "I disagree". Just phrased rather rudely.
I would deemed chipping in to other conversations rude, but thanks for opinion.
Just imagine the scenario.... all the suspects are together in the same room while the detective outlines 'who did it', interspersed with shouts of 'bastard!' 'f****r!', 'w*****r!', and so on, while he builds up to telling us who the murderer is.
Of course, they would have to exclude him from press conferences, or perhaps, as in this series, they know he has a problem but expect him to do the conference anyway...
Some people have to do that though, to convince themselves they're better than you and thereby prove (to themselves) that their opinion is better.
It's a public discussion forum, not a private conversation.
Yes, yes, I'm sure.
I think both Shearsmith and Pemberton are good. Shearsmith has played varied roles and I think people are underselling the nuances to his characters in Psychoville (Mr Jelly, Maureen and the librarian were all distinct characters), and in Inside No 9. He played an ordinary person in the Tom and Gerri episode with no silly voices/costume/etc and I found his performance believable and tragic.
I haven't seen much of Pemberton's other work, but he was very good in Happy Valley!
He may well get nominated for The Widower, as he did played that just fine, but he is playing the same character style in this series, so I wondering if that is really all he can do, there has been many an actor, who has won a BAFTA etc, on the one brilliant part, but that is like an author who has just one great novel in them.
Some people just don't know how to behave in public, do they?
Some people cannot bear to have their opinions questioned.
For such a newbie on the forum's, why so rude and angry!
Hee hee. Though Psychoville isn't as good as TLOG.
I think perhaps Shearsmith does a lot better when he's written the character himself. I remember reading an article he did for Digital Spy in which he said that he wouldn't do a script that was worse than one he (or I guess The League) could have written, which sounds a bit arrogant but is fair enough. I think he is a lot more able to perform the characters when he can create them from scratch rather than working off a script.
He can do low key characters as well; for example, Ross in The League of Gentlemen, who isn't a grotesque in the way Edward is. He's one of the, er, 'normal' residents. I think he's just probably more drawn towards surreal things- nothing wrong with that.
Hilarious! Honestly, I don't buy for a second that he would achieve and be able to maintain such a high position.
I don't think Tony Hill was psychic was he? He relied on psychology and an intuitive approach to crime-solving.
Dave Creegan, Robson Green's earlier character from Touching Evil, now he did have a bit of the ESP going on and could 'sense' criminality.
Well, I'm afraid you'll just have to get used to it. If not, I doubt whether DS is the right place for you.
He certainly gave that impression; none of his wild leaps seemed to have any logic behind them.
Reece Shearsmith is certainly highly talented, and great at putting on an act. But there is a difference between "putting on an act" and acting in a serious drama role.
There is a long list of people who are terrific at putting on an act - such as Paul Whitehouse, Harry Enfield, Alistair McGowan, Rory Bremner and so on. I love watching them pretend to be someone else. Each of them is very versatile and could put on an act as an "autistic or is he?" detective, pull the right face, use the correct voice, move in a certain way etc. but I don't think that they would convince me that they were doing anything other than putting on an act.
I think that Reece Shearsmith is in that category.
I agree, he is just not making me believe in him, he has not got the acting skill to play the part in any depth, the skill of a good actor is to forget about the actor, but all I see is Reece Shearsmith, nothing more.
That's funny - because when I watch Jack Nicholson all I see is Jack Nicholson,
when I look at Al Pacino all I see us Al Pacino. When I look at Alex Kingston all I see us Alex Kingston. When I look at David Tennant all I see is David Tennant.. (Do you see what I'm getting at).
I think you will find that most people can see the difference between a great actor playing a part, even if they are very well known, and a lesser actor in the same role. It is hard to explain it but a good actor becomes the character, a lesser actor pretends to be the character.
Did you see Meryl Streep as Thatcher - she looked a lot more like Meryl Streep than Margaret Thatcher, but she possessed the role. If Janet Brown or one of the others who did a great impersonation of Thatcher had tried to play the part it would have terrible. Or think of the way Michael Sheen, a great actor, played Brian Clough, Tony Blair or David Frost. He looked pretty much the same in each part but he was able to become them convincingly; far better than any impressionist could.
Yes - as you say, "it is hard to explain".
In the case of Al Panico, Jack Nicholson, etc that is fine as they have great screen presence, in some ways you happy to see them as they are screen giants, that is the difference..
It does suffer in comparison to The Bridge, but that was outstanding. The complex character of Saga Noren was beautifully played by Sofia Helin. You could follow her desperate attempts to fit in and understand the world around her. It was sad at times, but it could also be hilariously funny. On top of that you have her strange and subtle relationship with her police partner Martin (Kim Bodnia)..a sort of love that is never declared. Great stuff.
I don't think Shearsmith is trying to play his character in the same way. His version is more.."that's the way I am, live with it". So in that repect there's nothing like the same depth of character. But presumably that was the writer's/director's decision. Screen presence can help, but ultimately all actors are only as good as their script.