Another good one - they invented British fingerprinting!
I like the way the script wanders slightly off piste allowing characters to explore - Reid in discussion with the thrill seeker for example. That gout looked painful.
Not by today's PC standards of course but back then Drake would have been seen as the ideal when toughness was a cherished quality amongst coppers.
Plus Whitechapel was a poverty stricken shithole filled with casual violence and thuggish criminals and needed hard men to face them.
I think the programme gets the balance right with Reid and Grace being representing the more modern forward looking officer with Fred and Bennet the typical high ranking copper of the age - in their position through experience and grit.
Another good one - they invented British fingerprinting!
I like the way the script wanders slightly off piste allowing characters to explore - Reid in discussion with the thrill seeker for example. That gout looked painful.
Strange story and I just didn't buy it. I found it all rather unsatisfactory.
It felt like a filler to bring in the finger printing. I did say when Long Susan shot Reid, she left her fingerprints on the gun.;-) So no doubt that will be used at a later date. And the Captain's girl friend, taking one of Reid's folders, or did she plant the gun???????:o
It felt like a filler to bring in the finger printing. I did say when Long Susan shot Reid, she left her fingerprints on the gun.;-) So no doubt that will be used at a later date. And the Captain's girl friend, taking one of Reid's folders, or did she plant the gun???????:o
Another sublime episode. It was incredibly atmospheric and the dialogue absolutely wonderful particularly between Reid and Lady Vera. Lady Vera looked disturbingly like Angelina Jolie!
Couldn't Captain Jackson have had a bit of sympathy for Sgt BushyBeard and given him some laudenam for that gout !?
Just skipping ahead a little, but next weeks final episode of the series is listed in the TV mag we have as "The Downfall of Long Susan Hart", but in the episode guide to series 3 it was called "The Peace of Edmund Reid", and I'm sure this was the title when it was originally shown.
No spoilers, obviously, but why do you think they've changed the title?
Have the BBC had to edit so much out that Edmund's been left on the cutting room floor?
Another good one - they invented British fingerprinting!
I like the way the script wanders slightly off piste allowing characters to explore - Reid in discussion with the thrill seeker for example. That gout looked painful.
As a (non-nationalist) Scot, bit annoyed that the Scottish inventor of modern fingerprinting, Henry Faulds, was omitted and only Galton mentioned. Galton famously refused to credit Faulds, and passed off his work as his own.
Just skipping ahead a little, but next weeks final episode of the series is listed in the TV mag we have as "The Downfall of Long Susan Hart", but in the episode guide to series 3 it was called "The Peace of Edmund Reid", and I'm sure this was the title when it was originally shown.
No spoilers, obviously, but why do you think they've changed the title?
Have the BBC had to edit so much out that Edmund's been left on the cutting room floor?
I bloody hope not.
We don't all have Amazon Prime - anyway just for once why could the BBC have started the programme a few minutes earlier so we could watch the whole finale.
How hard can it be to do that?
So we could see all of this magnificent show play out.
I know that they actually hate the programme but they would do it for the bloody football or any reality/celebrity dross - you can be certain of that. >:(
Another good episode where Jerome Flynn's acting stood out for me, and also in the previous episode too. Couldn't work out if the actor who played Mary's 'dad' was actually male or female, the credits flowed too quick for me to see but regardless they also played it well to that point that it wasn't obvious (to me at least).
Another good episode where Jerome Flynn's acting stood out for me, and also in the previous episode too. Couldn't work out if the actor who played Mary's 'dad' was actually male or female, the credits flowed too quick for me to see but regardless they also played it well to that point that it wasn't obvious (to me at least).
Roll on to the next, can't wait!
Mary's "dad" was played by an actress, Haydn Gwynne. She's been on TV in a lot of things, but I didn't recognise her in this. She was excellent - but they all are!
Agree, it was a very good episode. Finale next week, I think. Definitely not to be missed.
I've had the original Amazon versions for a while now, but have watched them at BBC's pace so as to avoid spoilers, but to at least be able to experience the full album versions rather than the BBC's single edits, so to speak.
However, after watching last nights and the way it ended I've decided to watch the final episode straight after (sorry, couldn't wait, but no spoilers to follow, honest).
This time, however, I will also watch the BBC version next week, just to see how much actually makes it on screen as, as mentioned in other threads, it's quite graphic, and also why it appears the BBC have also changed the episode title.
I have to say that, despite initially coming to this series and writing it off as a TV rip-off of Guy Ritchie's Sherlock movies, I have grown to love the series, it's characters, setting and almost poetic dialogue, and look forward to future series.
Mary's "dad" was played by an actress, Haydn Gwynne. She's been on TV in a lot of things, but I didn't recognise her in this. She was excellent - but they all are!
Agree, it was a very good episode. Finale next week, I think. Definitely not to be missed.
OMG :o I know of Haydn Gwynne from when she was in Drop The Dead Donkey!!! As soon as I read that, I actually made me sit straight up but it made sense as I can see the similarity in the facial features.
Wow, she definitely played it well, I thought she was a pretty tall lady too but she looked quite short in that episode. Well done to her.
Did not recognise Haydn though, I remember her having waist length hair.
I as a bit distracted when she first appeared but OH said he's a woman, I looked up and immediately said 'Remember Drop The Dead Donkey?' I got her name a couple of minutes later.
We love this show, although OH was a bit late coming on board, and we normally record it and watch it on a Saturday evening. I'd missed an episode for some reason so had a full 2 hours last night.
We don't all have Amazon Prime - anyway just for once why could the BBC have started the programme a few minutes earlier so we could watch the whole finale.
How hard can it be to do that?
So we could see all of this magnificent show play out.
I know that they actually hate the programme but they would do it for the bloody football or any reality/celebrity dross - you can be certain of that. >:(
The BBC don't hate the program at all - it was cancelled because it cost a fortune to make and they couldn't justify it with the ratings it got. It was very well thought of but the finances just weren't there. Thankfully Amazon stepped in.
As for the cuts - are the BBC even entitled to show the full version? I presumed part of the deal was Amazon got to have content the BBC didn't, hence the longer running time.
The BBC don't hate the program at all - it was cancelled because it cost a fortune to make and they couldn't justify it with the ratings it got. It was very well thought of but the finances just weren't there. Thankfully Amazon stepped in.
As for the cuts - are the BBC even entitled to show the full version? I presumed part of the deal was Amazon got to have content the BBC didn't, hence the longer running time.
That is interesting, thanks.
As for the episode I did not recognise Haydn until halfway through - and was kicking myself.
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I like the way the script wanders slightly off piste allowing characters to explore - Reid in discussion with the thrill seeker for example. That gout looked painful.
Drake would not have risen higher than Sergeant.
Strange story and I just didn't buy it. I found it all rather unsatisfactory.
They will have to wait till 1902.
Well, yes.
It happens, people have all sorts of strange compulsions. See the famous case of Arwin Miewes and Bernd Brandes for example;
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/04/germany.lukeharding
We will have to agree to disagree (not for the first time on DS) although our mutual hatred of the Philth unites us.
I thought it was another excellent and atmospheric episode - poor old Don - when Mimi stood on his toe I winced and laughed out loud at the same time.
I am still furious with the BBC for axing this magnificent show when they will fund any old 'right on' PC shit or 'celebrity' and 'reality' dross.
Thank God for Amazon.
Couldn't Captain Jackson have had a bit of sympathy for Sgt BushyBeard and given him some laudenam for that gout !?
No spoilers, obviously, but why do you think they've changed the title?
Have the BBC had to edit so much out that Edmund's been left on the cutting room floor?
As a (non-nationalist) Scot, bit annoyed that the Scottish inventor of modern fingerprinting, Henry Faulds, was omitted and only Galton mentioned. Galton famously refused to credit Faulds, and passed off his work as his own.
I bloody hope not.
We don't all have Amazon Prime - anyway just for once why could the BBC have started the programme a few minutes earlier so we could watch the whole finale.
How hard can it be to do that?
So we could see all of this magnificent show play out.
I know that they actually hate the programme but they would do it for the bloody football or any reality/celebrity dross - you can be certain of that. >:(
Roll on to the next, can't wait!
Mary's "dad" was played by an actress, Haydn Gwynne. She's been on TV in a lot of things, but I didn't recognise her in this. She was excellent - but they all are!
Agree, it was a very good episode. Finale next week, I think. Definitely not to be missed.
However, after watching last nights and the way it ended I've decided to watch the final episode straight after (sorry, couldn't wait, but no spoilers to follow, honest).
This time, however, I will also watch the BBC version next week, just to see how much actually makes it on screen as, as mentioned in other threads, it's quite graphic, and also why it appears the BBC have also changed the episode title.
I have to say that, despite initially coming to this series and writing it off as a TV rip-off of Guy Ritchie's Sherlock movies, I have grown to love the series, it's characters, setting and almost poetic dialogue, and look forward to future series.
Wow, she definitely played it well, I thought she was a pretty tall lady too but she looked quite short in that episode. Well done to her.
Did not recognise Haydn though, I remember her having waist length hair.
I enjoyed it as well even though it didn't feature my personal favourite, Fred Best and I laughed out loud at the 'toe' moment.
I as a bit distracted when she first appeared but OH said he's a woman, I looked up and immediately said 'Remember Drop The Dead Donkey?' I got her name a couple of minutes later.
We love this show, although OH was a bit late coming on board, and we normally record it and watch it on a Saturday evening. I'd missed an episode for some reason so had a full 2 hours last night.
This has been so good that I'm almost kicking myself for missing out.
Captain Jackson is my favourite character, closely followed by Drake.
Indeed.
The BBC don't hate the program at all - it was cancelled because it cost a fortune to make and they couldn't justify it with the ratings it got. It was very well thought of but the finances just weren't there. Thankfully Amazon stepped in.
As for the cuts - are the BBC even entitled to show the full version? I presumed part of the deal was Amazon got to have content the BBC didn't, hence the longer running time.
And it's like a GoT reunion, so far we've had:
Blackfish Tully
Bronn
Yoren
Tommen Baratheon
and now Ser Barriston Selmy
That is interesting, thanks.
As for the episode I did not recognise Haydn until halfway through - and was kicking myself.
Roll on Friday.