It's time this government was held to account over it's failure.
If you want to keep getting partisan about it - I'm sure that at the time of the election Labour promised to spend less on the NHS - so I'm not sure your party would have done better, perhaps much worse as it has happened in Wales.
What is the specific "failure" and how should it be addressed?
Plenty of Tories trying to pretend it doesn't matter or that it's even somehow good.
Pathetic.
It's time this government was held to account over its failure.
It does seem to be Tory strategy to pretend something very serious doesn't matter or even doesn't exist, not matter how critical it is.
Oh FGS. Show me a post where you've laid into Labour for doing substantially worse in Wales on exactly the same issue and I'll take you seriously. Failing that, AFAIC you're just trolling...
Oh FGS. Show me a post where you've laid into Labour for doing substantially worse in Wales on the same issue and I'll take you seriously. Failing that, AFAIC you're just trolling...
Labour supporter who has never or rarely been critical of Labour = troll
Tory supporter in exactly the same position = perfectly reasonable and sensible person.
I remember the last time the Tories were in, it was much the same.
It makes me lived that they, and Labour, seem totally incapable of sorting the NHS out. Instead of just chucking more money at it, find out where the hell all the money is actually going.
Two-week wait for GP appointments to become the norm in many practices 'within a year'
20 May 2014 | By Christian Duffin
Exclusive Four in ten GPs predict the average waiting time for appointments at their practice will exceed two weeks from next April, as they struggle to cope with unprecedented levels of workload.
The survey of nearly 500 GPs shows that they expect average waiting times for an appointment to increase from nine days in April 2014 to 13 days from April 2015.
Only a fifth of GPs said that the average wait for a non-urgent appointment at their surgery was more than two weeks currently. But this proportion doubled to 40% when they were asked for their prediction of waiting times in 12 months time.
two week wait has been the norm at my local surgery for years
two week wait has been the norm at my local surgery for years
it's the same day at my local surgery more often than not, and at the most 2 days, but then I live in a Tory constituency, and they make certain they look after their own.
Can we accept that the situation re A & E has worsened under the coalition?, but what would the Labour Party do to improve the problem, apart from perhaps throw money at the NHS, my own personal experience was that waiting times were better under Labour.
Plenty of Tories trying to pretend it doesn't matter or that it's even somehow good.
Pathetic.
It's time this government was held to account over its failure.
It does seem to be Tory strategy to pretend something very serious doesn't matter or even doesn't exist, not matter how critical it is.
So meeting the same A&E targets as Labour did a decade ago with arguably less money per head of population to spend today whilst trying to sort a £160bn budget deficit is a sign of a serious failure? If that's the case Labour can hardly claim to be the champions of the NHS either.
Missing a fairly challenging target by 2 or 3% in one quarter doesn't strike me as that big a problem all things considered, particularly when the long term trend shows the NHS is effectively more efficient/productive than ever.
With an ever increasing (and aging) population and less money to throw around I have to question the point of these comparative stats. They don't really compare like for like anyway.
it's the same day at my local surgery more often than not, and at the most 2 days, but then I live in a Tory constituency, and they make certain they look after their own.
From personal experience with my family I'd say it depends on whether "your" doctor is full or part-time at the surgery and whether you insist on only seeing that person.
My wife has had to wait over a month to see her "own" doctor before now whereas I dropped in on the off chance back in the summer and got seen by the duty nurse (who then got a doctor to have a gander to confirm) in under 20 minutes.
My gripe isn't so much about being able to see a doctor within 24/48 hours as it is being able to get through on the phone to book an appointment in the first place.
it's the same day at my local surgery more often than not, and at the most 2 days, but then I live in a Tory constituency, and they make certain they look after their own.
So things were just as bad a decade ago when labour was calling the shots?
Maybe the situation is that the NHS is flawed from it's very foundations, not from any specific governments actions, maybe someone needs to stand up and say the system is broken and it needs rebuilt from the ground up.
So things were just as bad a decade ago when labour was calling the shots?
Maybe the situation is that the NHS is flawed from it's very foundations, not from any specific governments actions, maybe someone needs to stand up and say the system is broken and it needs rebuilt from the ground up.
Think that is a matter of opinion, and of course actual use of the A&E facilities in the last 10 years..
Not good news, but with the massive increases in numbers using A&E it was inevitable that a situation like this would happen. You have an ageing population as people live longer therefore more demand and you have the whole immigration factor.
What can you do to fix it? Not sure it's a case of not enough money is being spent. Truth be told the NHS is great but it terms of public finances it's a bottomless pit.
I can't trust Labour to fix it either, not after their disgraceful performance in Wales running it. People in Wales are having to sell their homes, dip into their pensions or have to move to England because they have no access to the Cancer Drug Fund.
it's the same day at my local surgery more often than not, and at the most 2 days, but then I live in a Tory constituency, and they make certain they look after their own.
Odd that seeing as my local MP is Grant Shapps and I still have to wait two weeks
Not good news, but with the massive increases in numbers using A&E it was inevitable that a situation like this would happen. You have an ageing population as people live longer therefore more demand and you have the whole immigration factor.
What can you do to fix it? Not sure it's a case of not enough money is being spent. Truth be told the NHS is great but it terms of public finances it's a bottomless pit.
I can't trust Labour to fix it either, not after their disgraceful performance in Wales running it. People in Wales are having to sell their homes, dip into their pensions or have to move to England because they have no access to the Cancer Drug Fund.
Isn't it the job of government to prevent these things from happening?
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Pathetic.
It's time this government was held to account over its failure.
It does seem to be Tory strategy to pretend something very serious doesn't matter or even doesn't exist, not matter how critical it is.
If you want to keep getting partisan about it - I'm sure that at the time of the election Labour promised to spend less on the NHS - so I'm not sure your party would have done better, perhaps much worse as it has happened in Wales.
What is the specific "failure" and how should it be addressed?
Just ask America, they have the most expensive healthcare system in the world.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS/
Don't worry, we'll soon be gobbled up just like them.
Oh FGS. Show me a post where you've laid into Labour for doing substantially worse in Wales on exactly the same issue and I'll take you seriously. Failing that, AFAIC you're just trolling...
Labour supporter who has never or rarely been critical of Labour = troll
Tory supporter in exactly the same position = perfectly reasonable and sensible person.
It makes me lived that they, and Labour, seem totally incapable of sorting the NHS out. Instead of just chucking more money at it, find out where the hell all the money is actually going.
or Snory?
or liebore.
two week wait has been the norm at my local surgery for years
it's the same day at my local surgery more often than not, and at the most 2 days, but then I live in a Tory constituency, and they make certain they look after their own.
Mine was much better
well if you're only allowing one's you've not heard before. How about, Loonbore.
So meeting the same A&E targets as Labour did a decade ago with arguably less money per head of population to spend today whilst trying to sort a £160bn budget deficit is a sign of a serious failure? If that's the case Labour can hardly claim to be the champions of the NHS either.
Missing a fairly challenging target by 2 or 3% in one quarter doesn't strike me as that big a problem all things considered, particularly when the long term trend shows the NHS is effectively more efficient/productive than ever.
With an ever increasing (and aging) population and less money to throw around I have to question the point of these comparative stats. They don't really compare like for like anyway.
From personal experience with my family I'd say it depends on whether "your" doctor is full or part-time at the surgery and whether you insist on only seeing that person.
My wife has had to wait over a month to see her "own" doctor before now whereas I dropped in on the off chance back in the summer and got seen by the duty nurse (who then got a doctor to have a gander to confirm) in under 20 minutes.
My gripe isn't so much about being able to see a doctor within 24/48 hours as it is being able to get through on the phone to book an appointment in the first place.
Can you expand on this comment...?
Maybe the situation is that the NHS is flawed from it's very foundations, not from any specific governments actions, maybe someone needs to stand up and say the system is broken and it needs rebuilt from the ground up.
Think that is a matter of opinion, and of course actual use of the A&E facilities in the last 10 years..
What can you do to fix it? Not sure it's a case of not enough money is being spent. Truth be told the NHS is great but it terms of public finances it's a bottomless pit.
I can't trust Labour to fix it either, not after their disgraceful performance in Wales running it. People in Wales are having to sell their homes, dip into their pensions or have to move to England because they have no access to the Cancer Drug Fund.
Odd that seeing as my local MP is Grant Shapps and I still have to wait two weeks
The actual figures are showing that.