Agree.Also Jim explained he called off the show in Plymouth because it involved alot of audience participation from the front row which mainly included making fun of them.
Yes I've looked into it and have mixed feelings - I believe that his motives were that he makes fun of the first row, and if that was the disabled, he'd look too much of a bully. He asked them to move and he said one woman wouldn't - but there are other audience members saying they'd have been happy to stay there, why should they move?. At this point it would have been wise to drop it, if he was worried about upsetting the disabled...
But ultimately he apparently stopped the show after 15 minutes. I can't see why he couldn't have changed his act, instead of blaming others. The show must go on and all that. So I don't think it's as simple as 'he refused to perform to the disabled because he hates them' - but it's hard to defend him cancelling the show under the circumstances, even according to his version of events.
Why should Jim not win OP? He actually contributes to the series. Much more so than Sam or Ollie. He is well liked and has done great work for the Armed Forces.
Women are so pathetic sometimes. I hate it! We seem to love our oppression. It is absolutely ridiculous. Same thing happened with that twit Dappy. The women absolutely LOVED being told that they were not equal to men. Loved the double standard. Not really feeling all that good about being a woman right now. It is so depressing.
Jim Davidson is no saint, but he's coming across well on CBB and he is behaving better than anyone else in there. I've also seen 0 evidence of this "male chauvinist pig" BS. I'm glad the public have got it right this year.
He wasn't in his 20s when he launched the homophobic attack on Brian Dowling in Hell's Kitchen, nor was he in his 20s when he cancelled a show in Plymouth because he didn't want wheelchair users in the front row. Or for that matter when he made disgusting jokes about paralympic medal winners.
Or, indeed, when he beat his ex wife into submission.
Well said.If he did politicaly correct comedy the guy would be revered.But because he comes from the time of Un-PC humour and he's refused to move with the times,people focus on that.
Yep, that pesky PC brigade eh? Not tolerating misogyny, racism, homophobia. Let's just call black people 'n******s', gays 'shirtlifters' and treat women like shit - they just deserve it. It's so FUNNY isn't it?
if you read the thread my post that you are replying to above was in response to a post about someone making mistakes in their 20s and have changed a lot since then !! Even so, it's incredible people dig up the same old stuff to blacken someones personality - god help anyone you know from the past who changes behaviour and opinion for the better and comes across you.
Either way Jim's known for his non pc ways, why the shock !it's a generational thing, and intolerance is one of those things. He's been ok on CBB, so that's what counts right now, not all the past garbage, they've all done things they shouldn't have Jim's no exception
It may well be a generational thing, but that doesn't make it acceptable.
Or, indeed, when he beat his ex wife into submission.
Yep, that pesky PC brigade eh? Not tolerating misogyny, racism, homophobia. Let's just call black people 'n******s', gays 'shirtlifters' and treat women like shit - they just deserve it. It's so FUNNY isn't it?
It may well be a generational thing, but that doesn't make it acceptable.
no it isnt acceptable BUT he in this show he isn't doing what people know of what he DID and thats wrong too according to some
a case of for some damned if he does and damned if he doesnt
personally for me i'll take Jim on this showing and i would like him above others to win
jim will lose any goodwill by some massive outburst at the whole house at some stage.not only will he not win i expect him to have been voted out before the end
jim will lose any goodwill by some massive outburst at the whole house at some stage.not only will he not win i expect him to have been voted out before the end
Sounds like you really want that to happen. For him I hope he maintains himself and lets everything wash over him.
He's come a long way and has worked hard on himself and kept himself in check when under attack from Luisa and Linda and Jasmine. That in itself should afford him the opportunity of winning.
jim will lose any goodwill by some massive outburst at the whole house at some stage.not only will he not win i expect him to have been voted out before the end
That is not going to happen no matter how much you wish it to. He has been the only one to argue valid points without losing it *cough* Lionel/Luisa/Jas/Lee/Dappy.....
What made me rage was the way Nolan complained about him talking over people then 1 or 2 days later Luisa did exactly the same thing to him. Der! Mental note - you can't complain or bitch about people then do exactly the same thing yourselves. When Jim mentioned this the females came out with some BS excuse - you take too long to explain. Absolute garbage. I know; we'll give it to one of the lying, devious, manipulating, narcissists shall we? He's the best of a bad bunch
Or, indeed, when he beat his ex wife into submission.
Yep, that pesky PC brigade eh? Not tolerating misogyny, racism, homophobia. Let's just call black people 'n******s', gays 'shirtlifters' and treat women like shit - they just deserve it. It's so FUNNY isn't it?
It may well be a generational thing, but that doesn't make it acceptable.
As long as he doesn't do any of the above in the House, he is a reformed character apparently...
Women are so pathetic sometimes. I hate it! We seem to love our oppression. It is absolutely ridiculous. Same thing happened with that twit Dappy. The women absolutely LOVED being told that they were not equal to men. Loved the double standard. Not really feeling all that good about being a woman right now. It is so depressing.
I don't think women 'loved' being told they were not equal to men by Dappy. I am not sure whether you mean inside the house - where no one backed him - or on here - where no one backed him, other than by suggesting that Luisa had also behaved really unpleasantly, which she did.
Is he not being himself or is he not living up to their prejudices of what they think he is like?
He has said himself that he is nothing like himself in there. Was he lying? I don't think so. I think he is a man with a very, very short fuse (in fact almost legendarily rude), and in the real world he would not tolerate any of them for an instant. I should think his tongue will be in shreds by the end with all the biting it has had.
All of them would like to win, but I think it would have special importance for him. He hasn't really had any new work for ages and ages, and he's too young to want to retire and grow dahlias. For all that he keeps saying he is in hell and wants to die if he stays any longer, I think he would like to win it more than any of them. If that means biting his tongue every minute of every day, he will probably manage it well enough.
What made me rage was the way Nolan complained about him talking over people then 1 or 2 days later Luisa did exactly the same thing to him.
So "Nolan" (who obviously doesn't deserve the courtesy of a name) said he talked over people, then Luisa talked over him? No wonder you raged, what with Linda and Luisa being the same person.
I hope Jim wins. Whether he's being himself or not he is entertaining me. No-one else has made me laugh. Not once. Lee Ryan with his tongue down a girl's throat, again, isn't what I want to watch. Linda doesn't seen to to anything but diss Jim. Liz and Sam do nothing at all. Luisa storming round looking for a fight. The toddler that is Dappy is a complete bore. I like someone who is genuinely funny. That is Jim.
If he could see Lionel off I would be happy. I don't really think Jim is that bothered, he knows now that a lot of the GBP still like him. I doubt I would still be watching if Jim wasn't there... I just love his sense of humour. He is great at winding them up especially Mrs glum. (Linda)
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Yes I've looked into it and have mixed feelings - I believe that his motives were that he makes fun of the first row, and if that was the disabled, he'd look too much of a bully. He asked them to move and he said one woman wouldn't - but there are other audience members saying they'd have been happy to stay there, why should they move?. At this point it would have been wise to drop it, if he was worried about upsetting the disabled...
But ultimately he apparently stopped the show after 15 minutes. I can't see why he couldn't have changed his act, instead of blaming others. The show must go on and all that. So I don't think it's as simple as 'he refused to perform to the disabled because he hates them' - but it's hard to defend him cancelling the show under the circumstances, even according to his version of events.
Jim has come across well since Day 1.
Brilliant
100% AGREE i said it on the quotes of the series thread too
that was just a classic for me and i too would like Jim to win
all the moans about him not being himself can be said for everyone in there
Is he not being himself or is he not living up to their prejudices of what they think he is like?
Or, indeed, when he beat his ex wife into submission.
Yep, that pesky PC brigade eh? Not tolerating misogyny, racism, homophobia. Let's just call black people 'n******s', gays 'shirtlifters' and treat women like shit - they just deserve it. It's so FUNNY isn't it?
It may well be a generational thing, but that doesn't make it acceptable.
no it isnt acceptable BUT he in this show he isn't doing what people know of what he DID and thats wrong too according to some
a case of for some damned if he does and damned if he doesnt
personally for me i'll take Jim on this showing and i would like him above others to win
What is 'himself' exactly? How he was or how he is?
It is possible to change, or at least try to.
Life also changes you, I am not the same person I was a year ago, life events have a dramatic effect on you, particularly as you get older.
Sounds like you really want that to happen. For him I hope he maintains himself and lets everything wash over him.
He's come a long way and has worked hard on himself and kept himself in check when under attack from Luisa and Linda and Jasmine. That in itself should afford him the opportunity of winning.
And mine
That is not going to happen no matter how much you wish it to. He has been the only one to argue valid points without losing it *cough* Lionel/Luisa/Jas/Lee/Dappy.....
Agreed - horrid man IMO
As long as he doesn't do any of the above in the House, he is a reformed character apparently...
So what would he have to do to prove he's a reformed character?
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt, until I'm proven wrong.
I'd really dislike anyone to keep harping on about my past misdemeanours and not give me a second chance.
All of them would like to win, but I think it would have special importance for him. He hasn't really had any new work for ages and ages, and he's too young to want to retire and grow dahlias. For all that he keeps saying he is in hell and wants to die if he stays any longer, I think he would like to win it more than any of them. If that means biting his tongue every minute of every day, he will probably manage it well enough. He's hardly likely to make the kind of joke that got him chucked off hells kitchen, is he?