I can see now exactly why the Uni of Leicester ran an almost hour long serious academic press conference this am...to distance themselves as much as they could from the "Jeremy Kyle Embarrassing Big Curved Body Histrionic Dig Show" tonight;)
I would rather the histrionics and a discovery being made then a dig with nothing to show for it myself.;)
I take it you are tuning in to Dr David Starkeys show on more 4 now for a serious view on this period.:)
When you have people passionate about a subject, it makes it come alive which was time teams charm! Unfortunately the mad woman is nuts and only cares about finding him, while the presenter does not come across as really being interested in the whole thing. I want a bit more on the history, more debate and discussion! Somebody presenting it who can ask questions the viewers what answering! This is appalling!!! Even down to the American and canadian news reports! It is all a bit big fat gypsy wedding/fly on the wall/alan partridge!
Right where can i sign a petition to channel 4 to reinstate some credibility to its history programs and treatment of important historical events!
I know exactly what you mean!
Funnily enough, I've actually found a 'Save Time Team' Twitter account and a petition (nothing to do with me, I might add, but it's nice that we weren't the only ones to think this!)
Well, I've just finished watching what I thought would be a historical, serious program which turned out to be so bad it was entertaining in a way I wasn't expecting! Mad Phillippa will live in my memory long after serious academics and the comments in here have been absolutely hilarious so thanks to everyone for giving me a right laugh
Isn't it a repeat? Starkey has been trading his history docs for eons. Surely he hasn't actually made a new one?
Its a repeat but for those that complained on here about the lightweight show on tonight.
Here is a chance to catch up on some serious comment on the period although from the people slagging off tonights show,seems many were not interested in a more serious take on this period which is sad.
Strangely enough his body was the only one found on the battlefield why??
It was buried in a church not a battlefield. The head of the archaeology department said they found others but only recovered a couple more. As she said medieval churches are full of bodies.
Horrible histories is brilliant and brings history alive, that energy should be brought into this, not as much as HH but more than what he brought to this to make it exciting newsworthy stuff! The program was such an anticlimax to an exciting day! In this role Simon Farnaby for me did not fit, it does not for me show that he has a passion for history and you would think his passion would increase over the whole program as he found out more! But it was delivered at the same level the whole way through. Like he was not allowed to get excited! There is an expectation in programs like this, i know things change, but you still expect a degree of high quality program that befits the occasion! The presenter should voice the viewers questions and get the max out! I found he just repeated the stuff the scientist said and did not challenge it. As a scientist, those who often ask questions are very interested in your subject while those who are not tend not to ask anything! So spoilt!
Funnily enough, I've actually found a 'Save Time Team' Twitter account and a petition (nothing to do with me, I might add, but it's nice that we weren't the only ones to think this!)
I enjoyed it for what it was, i was hoping for a more serious documentary but at times it seemed like a pisstake that awful presenter and that bloody stupid woman being over dramatic all the time, i felt like slapping her i wonder if that car park is still open maybe we could dump her in it and dig her up in 600 years, i'm sure people would be obliging. i jest of course.
Regarding facial reconstruction from skulls, how accurate is it? I only ask because it seems like something which bias could easily and unintentionally be introduced to.
You have to put yourself in her shoes for a minute - finding the thing you are the most passionate about, maybe a bit obsessed over. It must have felt like a lucid dream - to have been standing looking at his bones.
Did she made it a condition of C4 involvement that her emotions were given full exposure? If not, they could have indulged her at the time out of politeness but made a better programme with tighter edits to show less of her.
The programme makers made a huge error of judgement. It shouldn't have been The Story of Philippa Realising Her Dream it should have been the story of the historical search for Richard III's remains, including a few snippets of her reactions along the way. It could be rescued by dismissing the director and a massive re-edit of the footage.
Simon was ok, not great. I like him from HH so I hope hegets another chance to do something else if he wants it.
It seems like Channel 4 couldn't decide what type of documentary it was going to be. It had elements of being serious, comedy, human interest angle and so on. I didn't have much of a problem with Phillippa - she, is after all, passionate about the subject and it must be quite surreal to go from doing some research in your home to digging up a king a few years later.
I would have liked the documentary to have been more in-depth, featuring more historians, more in-depth look at the War of the Roses. Hopefully there will be another documentary sometime soon that deals with this.
So, yeah, the documentary was OK but that's about it.
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I would rather the histrionics and a discovery being made then a dig with nothing to show for it myself.;)
I take it you are tuning in to Dr David Starkeys show on more 4 now for a serious view on this period.:)
Who is he, I only heard the name right at the end of the programme. I am sure someone better could have been found.
Yep....got buried in the church after it had been displayed in Leicester
Hamilton Cork.
His body was found naked on the battlefield and put on show in town.
Berore being buried in Greyfriars by monks.
Is that Cork for a corking good head of hair?
They weren't digging the battlefield, they were digging a Priory site where he'd been buried.
I know exactly what you mean!
Funnily enough, I've actually found a 'Save Time Team' Twitter account and a petition
Ah at last somebody else watching this serious documentary.:)
Yes Greyfriars.
Why would I do that?
I attended some of his classes at the LSE and saw the series the first time around
Its a repeat but for those that complained on here about the lightweight show on tonight.
Here is a chance to catch up on some serious comment on the period although from the people slagging off tonights show,seems many were not interested in a more serious take on this period which is sad.
It was buried in a church not a battlefield. The head of the archaeology department said they found others but only recovered a couple more. As she said medieval churches are full of bodies.
A former church site yes Greyfriars.
Fair enough so did i worth a second look though.
For those slagging off tonights show particularly.:)
might have to sign up for this! thank you!
Yes, Phillipa was as mada as a box of bones, erm - frogs, but she was right in the end.
And the Osteo archeaologist breaking the skull by accident was fairly typical of what happens in digs. It was history and humanity broad together.
I'm sure there's a more "dry" documentary being made somewhere mind.
The programme makers made a huge error of judgement. It shouldn't have been The Story of Philippa Realising Her Dream it should have been the story of the historical search for Richard III's remains, including a few snippets of her reactions along the way. It could be rescued by dismissing the director and a massive re-edit of the footage.
Simon was ok, not great. I like him from HH so I hope hegets another chance to do something else if he wants it.
I would have liked the documentary to have been more in-depth, featuring more historians, more in-depth look at the War of the Roses. Hopefully there will be another documentary sometime soon that deals with this.
So, yeah, the documentary was OK but that's about it.