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Brown urges Scots to sign petition to ensure The Vow is kept

delegate zerodelegate zero Posts: 2,632
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I worry about his mental health. This is just through the looking glass stuff.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29432379
Former Labour Prime Minister Gordon Brown has called for 100,000 Scots to sign a petition urging Westminster to keep promises on devolution.


Why is the petition necessary Gordon? Are they planning to renege? Did you know this pre-referendum? Will you recommend independence if The Vow isnt kept?
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  • *Sparkle**Sparkle* Posts: 10,957
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    I only came in here to see how you would spin this. :D
  • delegate zerodelegate zero Posts: 2,632
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    *Sparkle* wrote: »
    I only came in here to see how you would spin this. :D

    I dont know how to spin it to be honest. It makes no sense to me whatsoever, like purple grass or 2+2=5. It does not compute.
  • PrestonAlPrestonAl Posts: 10,342
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    He's worried that Labour will renege on the promise
  • solenoidsolenoid Posts: 15,495
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    He promised things he couldn't keep because he is no longer in power. Typical Brown: promise to do things with other people's money.
  • BRITLANDBRITLAND Posts: 3,443
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    Like thought these were guaranteed? I guess Bitter Together were lying this whole time?
  • Angels_babyAngels_baby Posts: 1,471
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    Don't think you can spin this. Why do people need to sign a petition about extra powers that apparently had been a done deal?
  • CoolSharpHarpCoolSharpHarp Posts: 7,565
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    Angels_baby wrote: »
    Don't think you can spin this. Why do people need to sign a petition about extra powers that apparently had been a done deal?

    It's not as if the three main party's have u-turned either - very odd statement :confused:
  • MartinPMartinP Posts: 31,358
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    delegate zero wrote: »
    I dont know how to spin it to be honest. It makes no sense to me whatsoever, like purple grass or 2+2=5. It does not compute.

    2+2=5 was quite a good poster....
  • delegate zerodelegate zero Posts: 2,632
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    https://www.change.org/p/gordon-brown-mp-go-****-yourself

    signed
  • jenziejenzie Posts: 20,821
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    probably more worried that NO ONE would listen to him anymore!
  • MacLovinMacLovin Posts: 2,769
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    55% of voters actually believed this 'vow' lol

    Glad to say I am firmly in the 45% camp.
  • BungitinBungitin Posts: 5,356
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    delegate zero wrote: »
    https://www.change.org/p/gordon-brown-mp-go-****-yourself

    signed

    That link is dead.

    Surprise.
  • delegate zerodelegate zero Posts: 2,632
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    Bungitin wrote: »
    That link is dead.

    Surprise.
    bad word in the url
  • barky99barky99 Posts: 3,921
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    MacLovin wrote: »
    55% of voters actually believed this 'vow' lol

    Glad to say I am firmly in the 45% camp.
    I'd be surprised if as many as 10% fell for it, 5% at most I reckon
  • delegate zerodelegate zero Posts: 2,632
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    barky99 wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if as many as 10% fell for it, 5% at most I reckon

    25% of NOs fell for it according to Ashcroft.
  • OvalteenieOvalteenie Posts: 24,169
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    Brown should be ashamed of himself in peddling a "vow" that he now admits was a "trap". He pleads that he was misled by omission. Too bad Gordon, you were played for a fool by Cameron, and the tragedy is that you helped him to fool the Scottish electorate too. For this, Labour will surely pay a price at the next Scottish elections. ^_^
  • Gary_LandyFanGary_LandyFan Posts: 3,824
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    MacLovin wrote: »
    55% of voters actually believed this 'vow' lol

    Glad to say I am firmly in the 45% camp.

    55% of people didn't want Independence or have faith in the SNP's Independence dream...

    It does make me laugh when YES voters turn in to massive hypocrites, they believed the blatant lies told by the SNP and YES campaign, but then have the cheek to say that the 'vow' is a lie despite it still going ahead...
  • delegate zerodelegate zero Posts: 2,632
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    Gary_LandyFan wrote: »
    55% of people didn't want Independence or have faith in the SNP's Independence dream...

    It does make me laugh when YES voters turn in to massive hypocrites, they believed the blatant lies told by the SNP and YES campaign, but then have the cheek to say that the 'vow' is a lie despite it still going ahead...

    why is Brown begging us to sign a petition if there is not a danger of them reneging?
  • Gary_LandyFanGary_LandyFan Posts: 3,824
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    delegate zero wrote: »
    25% of NOs fell for it according to Ashcroft.
    Which means 75% or 3/4s voted NO but not for this vow...

    Your complaining about this supposedly not happening, how would to have reacted should Scotland have voted for Independence and all of the promises made to you inevitably failed to materialise?
  • delegate zerodelegate zero Posts: 2,632
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    Gary_LandyFan wrote: »
    Which means 75% or 3/4s voted NO but not for this vow...

    Your complaining about this supposedly not happening, how would to have reacted should Scotland have voted for Independence and all of the promises made to you inevitably failed to materialise?

    One promise was made-that Scotland would elect it's own government.
  • Gary_LandyFanGary_LandyFan Posts: 3,824
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    delegate zero wrote: »
    why is Brown begging us to sign a petition if there is not a danger of them reneging?

    Because he made promises he cannot deliver so he is doing as Salmond and the SNP does and make it so the blame is pointed elsewhere?
  • Gary_LandyFanGary_LandyFan Posts: 3,824
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    delegate zero wrote: »
    One promise was made-that Scotland would elect it's own government.
    Well you certainly have a very short and blinkered memory...

    Although I expect semantics are in play here.
  • abarthmanabarthman Posts: 8,501
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    I wonder how many NO voters are beginning to sense that they have been well and truly fooled by the three amigos?
  • SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Anyone who truly wanted Scotland to be independant would have voted YES.

    The fact remains that less than 45% wanted real independance.
  • barky99barky99 Posts: 3,921
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    Gary_LandyFan wrote: »
    55% of people didn't want Independence or have faith in the SNP's Independence dream...

    It does make me laugh when YES voters turn in to massive hypocrites, they believed the blatant lies told by the SNP and YES campaign, but then have the cheek to say that the 'vow' is a lie despite it still going ahead...
    There is nothing from that 'vow' that is certain to get OK from parliament, if they were serious about it then it would have been on offer from day 1 in October 2012 & not with a few days to go -- it was a dirty trick, nothing more
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