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Foxie Corbyn's First Policy - Withdraw from the EU
Dotheboyshall
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Well as everyone else is making up policies...
...his second is the compulsory eating of hamsters and guinea pigs on Thursdays
...his second is the compulsory eating of hamsters and guinea pigs on Thursdays
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I mean, how far away from "in the interests of national security we have had no choice other than to suspend democracy, and please don't be too alarmed by the tanks on the streets" are we, when government ministers start accusing the DEMOCRATIC opposition of being "a serious threat to national security"?
anyone else getting a slight 'puckering' feeling?
It will be the same message for the next five years if Corbyn managed to last that long.
People will be sick of hearing it by then so will be taking no notice. Even more so when Corbyn actually proves he is no threat. He has five years to win the public over. That's a long time. All these Tory attacks have come too early. They will be exhausted out come 2020.
But all those comments on Labour's economic record stuck with the voters.
Once a sitting government starts accusing the opposition of "posing a very serious threat to national security" then it opens the door to all sorts of possibilities, and I would put absolutely NOTHING past the Tories, absolutely nothing.
And why was that?
Because Miliband didn't defend it. Burnham said it best, if anyone brought up the economy on the doorstep they were told to shut the conversation down.
Corbyn on the other hand will explain his stance and his reasons for it. That's why people like him. He will not avoid a question no matter how difficult so the Tories can throw all this at him and he will answer back. Not run away.
If the Tories start peaching too loud about security it will be them who end up looking loony. People might actually start to then see past their bullshit.
The Tory response today has been a mistake imo. Fallons statement of doom lacks any creativity and for some reason is just echoed over and over (Priti Patel came across ridiculously robotic earlier just saying the same thing three times). Poor.
I understand what you are saying and agree, but it's the CONSTANT use over and over again by several members of the government of the line,
"Labour now represents a very serious threat to the security of this nation"
that is making me feel very uncomfortable indeed and is setting off the faintest of alarm bells, how many tin pot dictatorships start with almost identical comments being used?
Well there is some doubt he will turn up at PMQ's, if he doesn't that will be truly be avoiding the question.
Its a curious day though. I am transported in my mind back to the early eighties watching the Labour conferences(brilliant viewing). Endless leftish activists coming up to the microphone, passionately banging on about the Tories and "getting them out" which they never did until a virtual Tory, Tony Blair got them in. In fact Foot, Kinnock, Smith and Blair(in their differing ways) spent 15 years driving out sections of the party, some of whom no doubt will have re-joined(ok cant be totally certain of that I guess) and be jumping up and down with glee today.
Hang on...what about the gerbils
The PMQs thing is an odd one but and I say this through gritted teeth, Thatcher was a superb politician who was able to make mincemeat of Labour. No one in the Tories right now has that. So its a waste of time comparing. We are in a new age.
Yeah, it's not the kind of wording that has... well, let's just say it doesn't have a good history.
It won't appeal to the left but it's a key issue for a right leaning person. Tories are only interested in these folks. Keeps folks who care about this within their camp or UKIP.
Their leader has probably seen the security service files ;-) As will Tony and Gordon hence their reaction to Corbyn.
Then I guess it would be wise for Corbyn not to take up hill walking. He might have a "heart attack."
I still don't understand how Priti Patel became a minister. There is so much more talent in the 2010 Tory intake than her. Her Question Time appearance in 2011 was a disaster, her subsequent media appearance have been crap and she drones on and on like a robot. She's like a throwback of the late 90s/early 00s Tory party during its years in the wilderness.
Even her predecessor as Employment Minister, Esther McVey, was more engaging.
She is window dressing in the same way McVey was.
Its really sexiest tbh but that's all she is there for.
He cycles in London, a lorry accident is more likely
It certainly got my attention, and not in a good way.
i already strongly advised against any late night drives through underpasses a couple of day ago,
;-)
THis may surprise you but I have to agree. The same arguments were used in 1964 and to a lesser extent during Tony Benn's deputy leadership attempt and Michael Foot's election to leader.
Democracy is routinely for better or worse and most often compromise.
They've already started - I received an email from The Ministry of Trut...I mean Tory central office earlier saying "Labour's new leader is a threat to Our National Security, Our Economic Security and Your Family's Security". I'm no Corbyn fan or Labour supporter, but the Tories are obviously running scared and worried, why else would they keep telling us bad Corbyn is?