with the quote: watching porn and masturbating is not OKAY !
It is not common, and not everyone does it. it is unnatural and bad for health. And we can STOP it !
It is bad all the times, it is never good to WATCH porn !
Runs to other room to burn Rampant Rabbit and say a few hail Mary's
There was still plenty of new porn available back then too and even now you can't access is it whenever you want. You still have to fit it in with work/ family life/ the wife etc.
Do you believe in things like homoeopathy i wonder? because there are a number of people who think that's real. Yet there is no scientific evidence to prove it is anything more than a placebo. I find these porn claims are a bit far fetched to be honest as real sex is a world apart from porn. For starters there is no touch, taste or smell in porn or interaction with a real person to further ignite the senses. It's off the scale no matter how much porn you viewed as a kid. Maybe they just don't fancy their partner and are in denial and have convinced themselves it's because of the porn? 'cus they read it on a silly site' ;-)
Either way when you consider just how much porn is viewed around the world, (check web traffic stats) I would say the effects are pretty minimal. Certainly not something to be scaremongering about now is it?
Haha, comparing "back then" to now is ridiculous, it's infinitely easier to get porn now than it ever has been, I can't believe you're trying to say it's the same.
I'm mainly talking about young guys, 12-16, pretty sure the access they have to porn now is a million miles away from "back then"
What teenagers have family life/work/children?
There's also plenty of forums written by wives and girlfriends who's husbands and boyfriends can't perform/aren't interested in them because of porn.
I don't think it's anything to be worried about now, in the older generation as much, but the whole point is teenagers are going to be growing up watching porn constantly.
I'm not someone who is saying "ban it, ban it alllll" because I think it's a joke that they're even talking about it, all I'm saying is there is such thing as "too much" porn, but to me this is obvious, because you can have too much of almost anything.
Drinking alcohol once a week, not a problem, smoking a little cannabis twice a month, again, you're life isn't going to change, but do these things everyday and it will. There's worry's because porn is available, and free anytime anywhere, where as those other things are not. Imagine we said, unlimited supply of alcohol, tobacco, cannabis to anyone who wants it, would this end well?
I guess I'm old fashioned in this respect. I think kids in general grow up far too quickly these days and there is nothing wrong in having a bit of childhood innocence. There is plenty of time to do all the adult stuff, once you reach 18.
The problem is that the onset of puberty doesn't wait until you're 18....
Haha, comparing "back then" to now is ridiculous, it's infinitely easier to get porn now than it ever has been, I can't believe you're trying to say it's the same.
I'm mainly talking about young guys, 12-16, pretty sure the access they have to porn now is a million miles away from "back then"
What teenagers have family life/work/children?
There's also plenty of forums written by wives and girlfriends who's husbands and boyfriends can't perform/aren't interested in them because of porn.
I don't think it's anything to be worried about now, in the older generation as much, but the whole point is teenagers are going to be growing up watching porn constantly.
We are in new with this kind of thing.
But we are not in new territory, broadband has been mainstream now since about 2000. That's some 15 years. So anyone up to the age of 35 has grown up with this unrestricted porn access. Is there any evidence of our current 20 something/ 30 something generation having warped minds and an unhealthy attitude to sex? I would say it was the opposite.
Prior to the internet we could still easily get our hands on copious amounts of very hardcore porn which did the rounds in the playground, then there was dads stash under the bed. May I suggest you visit the 'vintage erotic forum' if you don't believe me.
you keep saying there is plenty of forums talking about this as if it's a major issue but it really isn't. The only people that bring this up are the anti porn lobby and disgruntled wives on Mumsnet.
Also I would hope most teenagers would have some kind of family life and they may not work but they will certainly go to school. If they spend all time in their bedroom then I would say there were deeper family issues to consider.
But we are not in new territory, broadband has been mainstream now since about 2000. That's some 15 years. So anyone up to the age of 35 has grown up with this unrestricted porn access. Is there any evidence of our current 20 something/ 30 something generation having warped minds and an unhealthy attitude to sex? I would say it was the opposite.
Prior to the internet we could still easily get our hands on copious amounts of very hardcore porn which did the rounds in the playground, then there was dads stash under the bed. May I suggest you visit the 'vintage erotic forum' if you don't believe me.
you keep saying there is plenty of forums talking about this as if it's a major issue but it really isn't. The only people that bring this up are the anti porn lobby and disgruntled wives on Mumsnet.
Also I would hope most teenagers would have some kind of family life and they may not work but they will certainly go to school. If they spend all time in their bedroom then I would say there were deeper family issues to consider.
Haha, you are just plain wrong.
I was 13 in 2000, and I watched porn through my teen years I'm 27 now and still go on porn, I know for a fact it's absolutely nothing like what it was. You sound like you have absolutely no idea what the porn world online is like now. Go watch some porn and tell me it's the same as it was back in the day.
I can't even believe you're trying to say broadband was the same, most people didn't have broadband until 2004-2006.
You also don't know teenagers now, especially male teenagers, they spend all their time playing x-box and PS4 in their rooms, so you wouldn't think there was anything untowards about them being in their rooms all the time.
Porn from the playground, wait, what did you play it on, your iPad?:p
I was 13 in 2000, and I watched porn through my teen years I'm 27 now and still go on porn, I know for a fact it's absolutely nothing like what it was. You sound like you have absolutely no idea what the porn world online is like now.
I can't even believe you're trying to say broadband was the same, most people didn't have broadband until 2004-2006.
You also don't know teenagers now, especially male teenagers, they spend all their time playing x-box and PS4 in their rooms, so you wouldn't think there was anything untowards about them being in their rooms all the time.
Porn from the playground, wait, what did you play it on, your iPad?:p
believe me i am a connoisseur in this field and if you want to look at what is popular in the world of porn check out web traffic analysis sites such as Alexa. Web cam sites, and general streaming sites tend to come out top followed by a lot of softcore stuff and this new trend in art porn like X-art. I am familiar with the extreme side of things too like evil angel and have probably seen most the works of Sasha Grey and co. However i don't see how this is any worse than stuff circa 2000 Max Hardcore, 90's Silwa, 80's Rodox, 70's Color climax and Private throughout the years. The only thing that has significantly changed is the fashion, the amount of hair and there being more focus on the woman's enjoyment.
Actually i did spend a lot of time in my room playing the Atari ST as a teenager but not day and night.
It were unmarked VHS tapes and magazines in the playground. ;-)
believe me i am a connoisseur in this field and if you want to look at what is popular in the world of porn check out web traffic analysis sites such as Alexa. Web cam sites, and general streaming sites tend to come out top followed by a lot of softcore stuff and this new trend in art porn like X-art. I am familiar with the extreme side of things too like evil angel and have probably seen most the works of Sasha Grey and co. However i don't see how this is any worse than stuff circa 2000 Max Hardcore, 90's Silwa, 80's Rodox, 70's Color climax and Private throughout the years. The only thing that has significantly changed is the fashion, the amount of hair and there being more focus on the woman's enjoyment.
Actually i did spend a lot of time in my room playing the Atari ST as a teenager but not day and night.
It were unmarked VHS tapes and magazines in the playground. ;-)
Haha, I don't dispute that you could access hardcore stuff years ago etc.
The main thing is how available and easy it is to access. You can't tell me that it's not easier to access now? You don't have to speak to dodgy dave in the pub to get those VHS's in the wrong case, or go to the petrol station and get razzle off the top shelf or wait till everyone is out of the house because the VHS makes so much noise even the nextdoor neighbors know what you're doing. It's literally at the click of a button where ever you are.
The availability really is the thing that worries people, because you'll obviously get people watching a crap load of porn, who wouldn't have had the balls, friends, or interest to go out of their way to get hold of porn years ago.
Like I've already said anyway, I don't want porn banned at all, I hate how, as soon as something has the potential for harm they say it needs banning. Everything in moderation is fine, but too much porn (masturbating to it everyday) is not good, just like many other things out there.
She was an amazing woman. She answered to nobody, was her own woman. I used to stay regularly with her during my teenage years.
After viewing that, I had to beat myself blind and that was not the only occasion. She was quite happy in varying states of dress and undress.
She was also fairly liberal with the gin.
Kids today don't get this sort of education.
Did Auntie give you a good 'education' then? :cool:
The key word in the title of the thread is 'addiction'
Not talking about someone just dabbling
Addiction to anything is probably bad news.
I can't think of any healthy addictions
In the true sense of the word, a person is addicted to something, they spend an unhealthy of time on their addiction, and they can't stop
Chocolate (makes you sick, if you eat too much)
Porn, Drugs, Drink, Gambling
They all tend to mess people up, in some way or other
As a 22 year old who grew up with internet porn, porn addiction is very rare. When i used to watch internet porn as a teenager, id watch it cos i was horny and fancied a wank, once i came, i wouldnt feel horny anymore so i'd do something other than watch porn. I also had school, family at home and a social life so wouldnt have been able to sit on my laptop all day watching porn. Also i've never had problems with getting an erection during sex because i'm straight and only pull or get into relationships with women I find attractive. Porn addicts will be rare and most likely people with no social lives considering the amount of time it would take to watch enough porn to qualify you as an adddict. So i imaginr these porn addicts dont have much interaction and experience with women which is probably why they can't get it up as they are nervous/self conscious.
The problem is that the onset of puberty doesn't wait until you're 18....
That has been the case for a long time. Just because the hormones are kicking in, doesn't mean you must have sex. It's called self-discipline or lack of self-control.
Other factors have changed in the meantime, say during the last 1-2 generations, such as more people having underage sex, drinking, smoking, taking drugs, lack of discipline when being raised as children etc.
Personally, I don't think most of these changes have been for the better.
Everything in moderation is fine, but too much porn (masturbating to it everyday) is not good, just like many other things out there.
There is nothing wrong or unhealthy about masturbating to porn everyday. It actually has a number of health benefits and helps relieve stress and sexual tension and:
Masturbation does not cause any harm, either physically or mentally, even if you do it often.
If you masturbate with a partner, the risk of passing on or getting a sexually transmitted infection (STI) is low, as long as you do not pass genital fluids to one another on your fingers or in any other way.
Although people may be embarrassed to talk about masturbating, you shouldn’t feel ashamed of it or guilty about doing it.
That has been the case for a long time. Just because the hormones are kicking in, doesn't mean you must have sex. It's called self-discipline or lack of self-control.
Other factors have changed in the meantime, say during the last 1-2 generations, such as more people having underage sex, drinking, smoking, taking drugs, lack of discipline when being raised as children etc.
Personally, I don't think most of these changes have been for the better.
The key word in the title of the thread is 'addiction'
Not talking about someone just dabbling
Addiction to anything is probably bad news.
I can't think of any healthy addictions
In the true sense of the word, a person is addicted to something, they spend an unhealthy of time on their addiction, and they can't stop
Chocolate (makes you sick, if you eat too much)
Porn, Drugs, Drink, Gambling
They all tend to mess people up, in some way or other
Is a high sex drive actually an addiction though? Isn't it just an inbuilt instinct and varies depending on one's mood? and from person to person? With regards porn use ones desire for it, is going to be dependent on their sex drive surely? As pointed out above there is actually health benefits from regular masturbation.
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It was the slight gap in the bedroom door actually!
No need for me to drill!
Ahhh, my early teenage years.
Runs to other room to burn Rampant Rabbit and say a few hail Mary's
Haha, comparing "back then" to now is ridiculous, it's infinitely easier to get porn now than it ever has been, I can't believe you're trying to say it's the same.
I'm mainly talking about young guys, 12-16, pretty sure the access they have to porn now is a million miles away from "back then"
What teenagers have family life/work/children?
There's also plenty of forums written by wives and girlfriends who's husbands and boyfriends can't perform/aren't interested in them because of porn.
I don't think it's anything to be worried about now, in the older generation as much, but the whole point is teenagers are going to be growing up watching porn constantly.
I'm not someone who is saying "ban it, ban it alllll" because I think it's a joke that they're even talking about it, all I'm saying is there is such thing as "too much" porn, but to me this is obvious, because you can have too much of almost anything.
Drinking alcohol once a week, not a problem, smoking a little cannabis twice a month, again, you're life isn't going to change, but do these things everyday and it will. There's worry's because porn is available, and free anytime anywhere, where as those other things are not. Imagine we said, unlimited supply of alcohol, tobacco, cannabis to anyone who wants it, would this end well?
We are in new territory with this kind of thing.
The problem is that the onset of puberty doesn't wait until you're 18....
But we are not in new territory, broadband has been mainstream now since about 2000. That's some 15 years. So anyone up to the age of 35 has grown up with this unrestricted porn access. Is there any evidence of our current 20 something/ 30 something generation having warped minds and an unhealthy attitude to sex? I would say it was the opposite.
Prior to the internet we could still easily get our hands on copious amounts of very hardcore porn which did the rounds in the playground, then there was dads stash under the bed. May I suggest you visit the 'vintage erotic forum' if you don't believe me.
you keep saying there is plenty of forums talking about this as if it's a major issue but it really isn't. The only people that bring this up are the anti porn lobby and disgruntled wives on Mumsnet.
Also I would hope most teenagers would have some kind of family life and they may not work but they will certainly go to school. If they spend all time in their bedroom then I would say there were deeper family issues to consider.
yeah that will be the next thing, puritans claiming that sex toys are bad too and cause erectile dysfunction.
Haha, you are just plain wrong.
I was 13 in 2000, and I watched porn through my teen years I'm 27 now and still go on porn, I know for a fact it's absolutely nothing like what it was. You sound like you have absolutely no idea what the porn world online is like now. Go watch some porn and tell me it's the same as it was back in the day.
I can't even believe you're trying to say broadband was the same, most people didn't have broadband until 2004-2006.
You also don't know teenagers now, especially male teenagers, they spend all their time playing x-box and PS4 in their rooms, so you wouldn't think there was anything untowards about them being in their rooms all the time.
Porn from the playground, wait, what did you play it on, your iPad?:p
It's just modern-day Sex and Drugs and Rock'n'Roll.
Actually i did spend a lot of time in my room playing the Atari ST as a teenager
It were unmarked VHS tapes and magazines in the playground. ;-)
Haha, I don't dispute that you could access hardcore stuff years ago etc.
The main thing is how available and easy it is to access. You can't tell me that it's not easier to access now? You don't have to speak to dodgy dave in the pub to get those VHS's in the wrong case, or go to the petrol station and get razzle off the top shelf or wait till everyone is out of the house because the VHS makes so much noise even the nextdoor neighbors know what you're doing. It's literally at the click of a button where ever you are.
The availability really is the thing that worries people, because you'll obviously get people watching a crap load of porn, who wouldn't have had the balls, friends, or interest to go out of their way to get hold of porn years ago.
Like I've already said anyway, I don't want porn banned at all, I hate how, as soon as something has the potential for harm they say it needs banning. Everything in moderation is fine, but too much porn (masturbating to it everyday) is not good, just like many other things out there.
Her name wasn't Aunt Peg by chance was it?
Yes, I had a good education from my Aunt. She was certainly a step up from the catalogues.
And I still do enjoy a gin.
Not talking about someone just dabbling
Addiction to anything is probably bad news.
I can't think of any healthy addictions
In the true sense of the word, a person is addicted to something, they spend an unhealthy of time on their addiction, and they can't stop
Chocolate (makes you sick, if you eat too much)
Porn, Drugs, Drink, Gambling
They all tend to mess people up, in some way or other
That has been the case for a long time. Just because the hormones are kicking in, doesn't mean you must have sex. It's called self-discipline or lack of self-control.
Other factors have changed in the meantime, say during the last 1-2 generations, such as more people having underage sex, drinking, smoking, taking drugs, lack of discipline when being raised as children etc.
Personally, I don't think most of these changes have been for the better.
There is nothing wrong or unhealthy about masturbating to porn everyday. It actually has a number of health benefits and helps relieve stress and sexual tension and:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2518802/Masturbation-good-health-prevents-cystitis-diabetes-cancer.html
Also taken from NHS direct:
Can masturbating cause any health problems?
Masturbation does not cause any harm, either physically or mentally, even if you do it often.
If you masturbate with a partner, the risk of passing on or getting a sexually transmitted infection (STI) is low, as long as you do not pass genital fluids to one another on your fingers or in any other way.
Although people may be embarrassed to talk about masturbating, you shouldn’t feel ashamed of it or guilty about doing it.
isn't that just a bit of rose tinted spectacles?
Teenage pregnancy has been going down, under age drinking in pubs is a rarity these days, it used to be common place in the early 90's. Smoking rates have reduced drastically and drug use is going down too:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/drug-misuse-findings-from-the-2012-to-2013-csew/drug-misuse-findings-from-the-2012-to-2013-crime-survey-for-england-and-wales
Is a high sex drive actually an addiction though? Isn't it just an inbuilt instinct and varies depending on one's mood? and from person to person? With regards porn use ones desire for it, is going to be dependent on their sex drive surely? As pointed out above there is actually health benefits from regular masturbation.