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Two and a half men - final episode.
EvieJ
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I watched the earlier episodes but stopped when Charlie left.
Final episode tonight, anyone watching?
Final episode tonight, anyone watching?
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EvieJ
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I got the distinct impression that Chuck Lorre literally didn't give two shits about the show anymore, & hasn't for some time. He made his money form it & just wasn't interested, & the whole episode was just him giving the long term fan-base a great big middle finger.
It did the whole 4th wall breaking thing which was a just eugh. All the 'nudge nudge, wink wink' staring at the camera stuff isn't clever, it's cringe worthy. Sheen declined an invite, as such, the episode should've been re-written, rather than teasing it for a whole hour only to not deliver. As it was, the cameo role that they offered him would've been a middle finger to all concerned & I'm glad he declined:
Yeah, how dare that evil Charlie Sheen demand some decent emotional pathos & sound character development!
See, It might have seemed a bit corny, but what Sheen proposed sounded a hell-of-a-lot better than that pile of hot garbage that claimed to be the last episode of Two & A Half Men.
I actually can't emphasise enough just how terrible that was.
Incidentally, what's the John Stamos in-joke all about? I recall he was touted as Sheen's replacement and appeared in the first post Sheen ep. and he cropped up again in the finale. I looked him up on IMDB, but couldn't see any obvious connection to (I'm assuming) Lorre.
And yes, Lorre had clearly tired of it, understandably. Perhaps his fate at the end being the same as Charlies was his admission.
Still mystified it lasted 12 seasons though, with and without Sheen.
But this, this was just awful.
But what reason is there for the writers to bother, They can't trust him and they pretty much know he doesn't respect them
I think Charlie Sheen was great in 2 and a half men but i think people who are criticising the shows creators are forgetting who let who down and who insulted who first
I did like how they got Sophie Winkleman (or is it Windsor?) back to play up to her status as Royalty (well, sort of).
Cut to shot of someone about Charlie Harper's height and build, in his customary shorts and bowling shirt approaching the front door of 'his' (i.e. Walden's house). We never see his face.
The piano falls from the sky and crushes whomever it was.
Cut to shot of Chuck Lorre in the directors chair - we've now broken out of the show and are in the recording studio - turn to face the camera and say - with a kind of victory grin on his face - "Winning!", which I gather is one of Sheen's real-life phrases.
Immediately after saying this, a second piano falls onto and crushes Lorre.
Roll end credits.
I think Stamos was possibly rumoured to replace Sheen at first, the only name I really remember being tossed around was Rob Lowe but Stamos would make sense based on his look and style.
The quoted post pretty much sums up how I felt about the episode, I enjoyed it for what it was but found it a little insulting both to the viewers and the cast for the show to bow out that way after such a long run, its true the show had dipped in quality a long time ago and they were now using outright silliness more often than well written humour or just smutty or toilet humour but the whole episode just served as a way for Lorre to take constant jabs at Sheen as well as ridicule the show in general.
I could live with the slating of Sheen and even the mocking of the show but the ending was terrible. It would have been nice if they could have written a fitting ending for the Alan and Walden characters rather than just going with the parting shot at Sheen. The general feeling was that Lorre was glad to be rid of this show and took the opportunity to rip it apart with the cast just generally going through the motions for another easy pay-day, also Angus T Jones deserved to be torn apart just as badly as Sheen for the comments hes made about the show that's set him up for life financially.
Yes It would have been good if Alan moved out and married Lyndsey.
One good thing about the last season was the introduction of Louis, at least it took the show back to its original purpose two and a half men.
It could have continue. library introduce a new male character to replace Alan. Say a cousin of Walden.
As for breaking the fourth wall Moonlighting did it in its last episode and so did Happy Days, but Happy Days olny did it in the last min, were
"Tom Bosley breaks the fourth wall during his toast, looking directly into the camera when he says, "So, thank you all for being part of our family." In doing so, he thanked the show's viewers in the guise of thanking the guests at the reception.
Oh I agree, he was a massive delusional c*ck, but Lorre shouldn't have allowed that to get in the way however many seasons later. One thing we can't deny is that they needed him, even in his absence.
Anger Management is worthy of all the mocking it gets. Dreadful show.
I know Sheen has his issues, but Lorre seems obsessed with bringing Sheen down. Lorre seems to be putting all his energy into Big Bang Theory instead
Angus T Jones leaving was also a disaster for the show