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    darkknight77darkknight77 Posts: 3,430
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    soulboy77 wrote: »
    I don't think 'investment' is the right word here! For £500 - £750 you can buy a pretty decent Windows laptop that will have enough oomph to do all that you require. If you go for an MacBook Pro you are deciding to pay a big premium for the Apple name and design.
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    I think 'investment' is a key word when buying Apple hardware as it holds value. You could spend £750 on a comparable Windows machine, but it will be worth £100 in 2 years, a Mac for £1200 will be still fetch £8-900 in 2 years from my experience.
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    I think 'investment' is a key word when buying Apple hardware as it holds value. You could spend £750 on a comparable Windows machine, but it will be worth £100 in 2 years, a Mac for £1200 will be still fetch £8-900 in 2 years from my experience.

    they definitely do.
    i sold an old style macbook pro (pre uni-body) that was over 4 years old and still got £400+ for it.
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    jonner101jonner101 Posts: 3,410
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    I think 'investment' is a key word when buying Apple hardware as it holds value. You could spend £750 on a comparable Windows machine, but it will be worth £100 in 2 years, a Mac for £1200 will be still fetch £8-900 in 2 years from my experience.

    I think investment is the wrong word as the value still falls but yes cost of ownership of apple products can actually be cheaper if you change them every 2 or 3 years.
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    mred2000mred2000 Posts: 10,050
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    Apple products aren't an investment but depreciation on them is nowhere near as bad as other computer products.
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    cnbcwatchercnbcwatcher Posts: 56,681
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    chenks wrote: »
    they definitely do.
    i sold an old style macbook pro (pre uni-body) that was over 4 years old and still got £400+ for it.

    I actually saw someone in my university library earlier with one of those MBPs :cool: The design still looks good. One of my favourite Apple laptop designs was the Titanium Powerbook G4. That machine looked like it was made to last. Pity they don't make a Titanium Macbook Pro now. Only thing that surprised me about those machines was that they originally ran Mac OS 9! I always thought the G4s ran an early version of OSX?
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    Kitt 2000Kitt 2000 Posts: 1,108
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    chenks wrote: »
    plus a review said they received a non-UK keyboard on one, and another said it was the wrong spec.

    clearly a dodgy seller selling grey imports and refurbs, but "as new".
    avoid.

    I can assure you mine is the correct spec
    Not an import..
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    zapodzapod Posts: 661
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    It certainly is. Ironically I see more of the beachball on my Air than I do on my Pro. Time for me to start using the Pro again I think...

    Interesting. I've seen more of the beachball on our new late 2012 Mac mini than I have on my 4 year old pre-unibody MacBook Pro, same OS, same amount of Ram...
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    Kitt 2000 wrote: »
    I can assure you mine is the correct spec
    Not an import..

    well all i'm doing is reading the reviews.
    the link you posted also stated OSX Lion (NOT Mountain Lion).

    also it's listed as Hong Kong.

    Thanks, but not thanks.
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    Kitt 2000Kitt 2000 Posts: 1,108
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    Well mine came in 5 dye free post so hardly think it came from hong kong... lol

    Specs are all British..

    It does have mountain Lion..
    Must be a typo on that..
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    Kitt 2000 wrote: »
    Well mine came in 5 dye free post so hardly think it came from hong kong... lol

    Specs are all British..

    It does have mountain Lion..
    Must be a typo on that..

    don't need to argue with you, but all the info is in the amazon link that YOU provided.
    Detailed Seller Information
    Business Name: Cyber Access Ltd
    Business Type: Limited Company
    Trade Register Number: 59200095-000-11-11-7
    Customer Services Address:
    7/F China United Plaza, 1008 Tai Nan West Street,
    Cheung Sha Wan
    Kowloon
    HK
    Business Address:
    7/F China United Plaza, 1008 Tai Nan West Street,
    Cheung Sha Wan
    Kowloon
    HK
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    Kitt 2000Kitt 2000 Posts: 1,108
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    Most have sent wrong link..
    Mine came from"top Electricals"
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    mred2000mred2000 Posts: 10,050
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    Post the right link, then...
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    mred2000mred2000 Posts: 10,050
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    zapod wrote: »
    Interesting. I've seen more of the beachball on our new late 2012 Mac mini than I have on my 4 year old pre-unibody MacBook Pro, same OS, same amount of Ram...

    Slower hard drive?
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    Kitt 2000 wrote: »

    they also all list OSX Lion in the macbook they list in the store.
    sorry, but if it doesn't look right or smell right then it ain't right.
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    Kitt 2000Kitt 2000 Posts: 1,108
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    chenks wrote: »
    they also all list OSX Lion in the macbook they list in the store.
    sorry, but if it doesn't look right or smell right then it ain't right.

    Well your welcome to pay another £200.. lol

    Mine is fine its british..

    Mountain lion..

    Even says on recipt "English model"
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    zapodzapod Posts: 661
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    mred2000 wrote: »
    Slower hard drive?

    Could be the HD, could be the discrete graphics in the MBP over the mini's HD4000 chipset.

    The core i5 mini is about 2.5 times quicker on any heavy lifting I've done on both systems... Not as huge a difference as I was expecting TBH...
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    cnbcwatchercnbcwatcher Posts: 56,681
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    zapod wrote: »
    Interesting. I've seen more of the beachball on our new late 2012 Mac mini than I have on my 4 year old pre-unibody MacBook Pro, same OS, same amount of Ram...

    Is the hard drive slower or is there some software on the Mini slowing the computer down?
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    paulj48paulj48 Posts: 1,122
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    Kitt 2000 wrote: »
    Well your welcome to pay another £200.. lol

    Mine is fine its british..

    Mountain lion..

    Even says on recipt "English model"

    I bought my MBP from the UK Apple website last September but my receipt doesnt say "English model" I was initially concerned as the @ key was in the position where it is found on a USA PC keyboard but this is normal with Apple.

    Wonder why the Amazon seller feels the need to say its English on the receipt?
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    Kitt 2000Kitt 2000 Posts: 1,108
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    paulj48 wrote: »
    I bought my MBP from the UK Apple website last September but my receipt doesnt say "English model" I was initially concerned as the @ key was in the position where it is found on a USA PC keyboard but this is normal with Apple.

    Wonder why the Amazon seller feels the need to say its English on the receipt?

    Well maybe there has been some mix ups in the past?
    The seller does ship internationally,

    Maybe in the past wrong models have gone to wrong countries?
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    paulj48 wrote: »
    I bought my MBP from the UK Apple website last September but my receipt doesnt say "English model"

    that's because there is no such thing as an "english model".

    they are all the same except for the keyboard that varies depending on region/country. there is a UK keyboard, but no "english model".

    even the power connections are universal with the only regional part being the plug.

    just another little details that makes the whole ad looks mighty suspicious.
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    paulj48paulj48 Posts: 1,122
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    chenks wrote: »
    that's because there is no such thing as an "english model".

    my remark was made tongue in cheek ;)
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    darkknight77darkknight77 Posts: 3,430
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    jonner101 wrote: »
    I think investment is the wrong word as the value still falls but yes cost of ownership of apple products can actually be cheaper if you change them every 2 or 3 years.

    I think investment is a fine statement to use, you can basically buy one Mac for £1500, and use this 'investment' to upgrade to a new machine every 2 years for around £300 thereafter. I know several people who've done this since the days of the iBook G3!
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    mred2000mred2000 Posts: 10,050
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    I think investment is a fine statement to use, you can basically buy one Mac for £1500, and use this 'investment' to upgrade to a new machine every 2 years for around £300 thereafter. I know several people who've done this since the days of the iBook G3!

    That's not an investment. That's like someone who trades in an old game they spent £40 on and then only pays an extra £5 for a new game and says it only costed them £5. They've still paid £45 in reality. Similarly with cars.

    If they were an investment then you'd be able to trade your old one in for a new one PLUS be GIVEN money on top :D

    An investment is something that increases in value. Apple products aren't an investment but depreciation on them is nowhere near as bad as other computer products.
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    StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    I think investment is a fine statement to use, you can basically buy one Mac for £1500, and use this 'investment' to upgrade to a new machine every 2 years for around £300 thereafter. I know several people who've done this since the days of the iBook G3!

    So it's an 'investment' in the same way as buying a 10 year old car and changing it every 2 years is.
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