Might explain why signal on my portable radio improved earlier this year but hasn't made a difference to my patchy hifi signal which is unbearable. Only 7 miles down the road. Ah got to love Norfolk. I guess though the BBC stations (Asian Network, R1, BBC Norfolk, etc) have improved and this is what was upgraded whereas the others haven't.
I seem to pick up many more stations than some areas of the country do and also a couple from Yorkshire but I would love to think that I may hear BBC Radio Newcastle and /or BBC Radio York sometime or Metro radio as I could hear once upon a time on FM but I have a feeling this isn't going to happen and I assume all the DAB transmitters around here are all broadcasting, on full power etc...so what I have is how things will remain. The only local BBC station I can hear is Radio Tees.
This wasn't one of the 54 sites that the BBC originally mentioned so is this additional (or instead of) one of those locations shown on the original list?
I seem to pick up many more stations than some areas of the country do and also a couple from Yorkshire but I would love to think that I may hear BBC Radio Newcastle and /or BBC Radio York sometime or Metro radio as I could hear once upon a time on FM but I have a feeling this isn't going to happen and I assume all the DAB transmitters around here are all broadcasting, on full power etc...so what I have is how things will remain. The only local BBC station I can hear is Radio Tees.
On the subject of BBC Radio York, it's supposed to be appearing on DAB (finally) towards the end of this year, but there seems to be conflicting info?!
Minster FM owners team up with MuxCo in drive for North Yorkshire DAB
MuxCo has signed up The Local Radio Company (TLRC), owners of Minster, Stray and Yorkshire Coast Radio to submit an application for the local DAB digital radio multiplex serving North Yorkshire.
The actual licence area includes the eastern part of North Yorkshire, the city of York, and northern districts of the East Riding of Yorkshire.
As we predicted in June, the application means this will be the first time a TLRC station will feature on DAB digital radio.
The county's BBC service - BBC Radio York - will be carried on the multiplex.
MuxCo North Yorkshire Ltd plans to bring just two new services - Easy Radio and Traffic Radio to the area, when the multiplex launches in June 2009 [5th Jan 2009: MuxCo now propose "December 2009" as a revised launch date]. Yorkshire Coast Radio is planned to launch within two years of this date.
MuxCo North Yorkshire
BBC Radio York : news, information and music
Minster FM : current and classic hits for York
Stray FM : current and classic hits for Harrogate
Yorkshire Coast Radio : current and classic hits for Scarborough
Fresh Radio : contemporary and classic hits
Easy Radio : easy listening music including rock, blues and folk
Traffic Radio : rolling traffic news service
MuxCo are proposing two transmitters across North Yorkshire and one further transmitter to be turned on within two years of the multiplex launch to serve Scarborough.
On the subject of BBC Radio York, it's supposed to be appearing on DAB (finally) towards the end of this year, but there seems to be conflicting info?!
I have a feeling that Muxco will never launch any of their proposed multiplexes. They keep delaying, the economy is bad and they're not earning anything while nothing is being broadcast.
On the subject of BBC Radio York, it's supposed to be appearing on DAB (finally) towards the end of this year, but there seems to be conflicting info?!
MuxCo North Yorkshire will also broadcast BBC Radio York.
However with the Myers report and UKRD taking over TLRC, also the end of easy radio, the mux (and other new local muxes) might be replaned to help reduce cost for stations and increase TX power.
On Feedback r4 today http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx
about 12 mins in
FM Switch over will not start take place in 2015 unless by 2013 there are 600 extra BBC DAB transmitters giving 98% coverage of strong DAB signals.
Digital radio = DAB, Web and DTV!
Will they be in exactly the same configurations, transmitters and services? Probably not. DAB's tectonic plates are moving all over the place at the moment. However, i'm pretty confident that if there are any changes it'll be good news for everyone involved and the listeners too.
Will they be in exactly the same configurations, transmitters and services?
We know how the new multiplex configurations will look, because they are shown on Page 8 of this document. You could say that Ofcom have "let the cat out of the bag" while negotiations with the operators are still going on.
The North Yorkshire multiplex will now be on one frequency block whereas the original licence was set up was for the county to be divided into two blocks.
We know how the new multiplex configurations will look, because they are shown on Page 8 of this document. You could say that Ofcom have "let the cat out of the bag" while negotiations with the operators are still going on.
The North Yorkshire multiplex will now be on one frequency block whereas the original licence was set up was for the county to be divided into two blocks.
Do we really know they are the final plans - all they are from reading the document are suggested regions - it's possible that some regions will be on two blocks due to frequency availability issue, or even demand for supply...
Two new BBC transmitters: Holyhead South Stack improves coverage of Anglesey and in North West Wales. Wharfedale improves coverage in and around the Yorkshire valley.
Two new BBC transmitters: Holyhead South Stack improves coverage of Anglesey and in North West Wales. Wharfedale improves coverage in and around the Yorkshire valley.
In view of the 'Digital Britain' report are the BBC just going to carry on switching on transmitters until coverage matches that of FM?
Caroline Thompson, Chief Operating Officer of the BBC, said this week at the Westminster Media Forum:
"We don’t have the money to build out beyond 90% - that is our current build-out - and the final 10% costs much more per percentage than the previous 90%, but we will look forward to a discussion with the government about it."
The problem is that the Digital Britain report says that:
"getting to the level of necessary coverage will also require a contribution from the BBC, in line with its sixth Charter Public Purpose."
The government have said that there is the possibility of some money from the underspend on Digital Switchover Help Scheme, though they have also identified other possible uses for that money, some also feel that it should be returned to the licence fee payers.
Thanks Mike for upto date news.
Notice the DRM consortium are still trying to press for DRM coverage to overcome the problem in remote areas, but could confuse listeners which set to buy (assuming more affordable DRM/DAB sets arrive)!
The press release in 2006 said http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/05_may/22/digital.shtml
Arqiva will also be responsible for building and operating additional transmitters to expand the coverage of the BBC's DAB digital radio network.
At least 10 and potentially a further 160 new transmitters will come into service starting in 2007.
But in 2008 a contract was placed for the 54 transmitters for the 90% coverage (how many have been delivered?), presumably with TV DSO space has been left on TX sites to make them ready for more transmitters and aerials on masts to make roll out easier if the BBC orders more transmitters (about 600 more will be needed to match current FM coverage!).
There's more detail of Caroline Thompson's comments, as well as those of Andrew Harrison of the Radio Centre and Carolyn McCall of GMG on funding for the expansion of commercial multiplexes at the same forum, in Grant Goddard's blog:
Sorry I missed some of this thread after my posting...is it likely/possible that if the BBC bring on line these extra transmitters they could/would possibly move where appropriate onto their own transmitters alongside the BBC National stations which I assume are being introduced to improve reception and coverage around the UK or as the new report for digital Britain suggest local stations will remain on am/fm does that mean that local BBC radio will not move to DAB?
I seemingly receive my DAB stations from MXR North East, Digital 1 and Bauer Teeside but do also hear duplicates of Choice, Heart, LBC, Smooth and Yorkshire Radio from the MXR North Yorkshire Multiplex so I do wonder if more transmitters were on air or the power was increased if I would hear BBC Radio York and some other stations and/or possibly could expect to hear BBC Radio Newcastle...
As many stations seem to be duplicated around the UK and there are only a few that are different I am not sure that using a DAB external antenna if I could use one would really be worth considering for what could be gained.
Looking at a list of all the stations available in Tyne and Wear I am only missing Metro Radio and BBC Newcastle as it is.
I guess the fact that I cannot hear Metro Radio and BBC Newcastle now on DAB suggests that they are out of the picture and at best I may be more successful with improvements if things change in Yorkshire.
Not counting duplicates and stations off air waiting to be filled I can pick up around 40 stations on my portable receiver. If they were I might be able to add another 4-5 to my list.
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Might explain why signal on my portable radio improved earlier this year but hasn't made a difference to my patchy hifi signal which is unbearable. Only 7 miles down the road. Ah got to love Norfolk. I guess though the BBC stations (Asian Network, R1, BBC Norfolk, etc) have improved and this is what was upgraded whereas the others haven't.
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This wasn't one of the 54 sites that the BBC originally mentioned so is this additional (or instead of) one of those locations shown on the original list?
On the subject of BBC Radio York, it's supposed to be appearing on DAB (finally) towards the end of this year, but there seems to be conflicting info?!
taken from http://www.radio-now.co.uk/news563.htm (Sept 07)
Yet, the MuxCo website itself doesn't list BBC Radio York alongside the other stations...
taken from http://www.muxco.com/multiplexes/york/
I have a feeling that Muxco will never launch any of their proposed multiplexes. They keep delaying, the economy is bad and they're not earning anything while nothing is being broadcast.
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on http://www.muxco.com/multiplexes/york/services/ However with the Myers report and UKRD taking over TLRC, also the end of easy radio, the mux (and other new local muxes) might be replaned to help reduce cost for stations and increase TX power.
On Feedback r4 today
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx
about 12 mins in
FM Switch over will not start take place in 2015 unless by 2013 there are 600 extra BBC DAB transmitters giving 98% coverage of strong DAB signals.
Digital radio = DAB, Web and DTV!
Indeed it was, now all fixed.
The multiplexes will launch.
Will they be in exactly the same configurations, transmitters and services? Probably not. DAB's tectonic plates are moving all over the place at the moment. However, i'm pretty confident that if there are any changes it'll be good news for everyone involved and the listeners too.
We know how the new multiplex configurations will look, because they are shown on Page 8 of this document. You could say that Ofcom have "let the cat out of the bag" while negotiations with the operators are still going on.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radio/ifi/myers.pdf
The North Yorkshire multiplex will now be on one frequency block whereas the original licence was set up was for the county to be divided into two blocks.
How long you looking at before the North Yorkshire multiplex is on air.
Are you still leaving Olivers Mount out until you've been on air for two years?
Do we really know they are the final plans - all they are from reading the document are suggested regions - it's possible that some regions will be on two blocks due to frequency availability issue, or even demand for supply...
Both 1kW.
Caroline Thompson, Chief Operating Officer of the BBC, said this week at the Westminster Media Forum:
"We don’t have the money to build out beyond 90% - that is our current build-out - and the final 10% costs much more per percentage than the previous 90%, but we will look forward to a discussion with the government about it."
The problem is that the Digital Britain report says that:
"getting to the level of necessary coverage will also require a contribution from the BBC, in line with its sixth Charter Public Purpose."
The government have said that there is the possibility of some money from the underspend on Digital Switchover Help Scheme, though they have also identified other possible uses for that money, some also feel that it should be returned to the licence fee payers.
Notice the DRM consortium are still trying to press for DRM coverage to overcome the problem in remote areas, but could confuse listeners which set to buy (assuming more affordable DRM/DAB sets arrive)!
The press release in 2006 said
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/05_may/22/digital.shtml But in 2008 a contract was placed for the 54 transmitters for the 90% coverage (how many have been delivered?), presumably with TV DSO space has been left on TX sites to make them ready for more transmitters and aerials on masts to make roll out easier if the BBC orders more transmitters (about 600 more will be needed to match current FM coverage!).
There's more detail of Caroline Thompson's comments, as well as those of Andrew Harrison of the Radio Centre and Carolyn McCall of GMG on funding for the expansion of commercial multiplexes at the same forum, in Grant Goddard's blog:
http://grantgoddardradioblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/paying-for-digital-britains-digital.html
There's an application in for a new BBC DAB Transmitter at Fishguard 0.2 Kw (West Wales) - some of the documents may be of interest!
http://planning.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=09/0204/PN&backURL=<a href=wphappcriteria.display>Search Criteria</a> > <a href='wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=312638%26StartIndex=11%26SortOrder=APNID:asc%26DispResultsAs=wphappsresweek2%26BackURL=<a href=wphappcriteria.display>Search Criteria</a>'>Search Results</a>
I seemingly receive my DAB stations from MXR North East, Digital 1 and Bauer Teeside but do also hear duplicates of Choice, Heart, LBC, Smooth and Yorkshire Radio from the MXR North Yorkshire Multiplex so I do wonder if more transmitters were on air or the power was increased if I would hear BBC Radio York and some other stations and/or possibly could expect to hear BBC Radio Newcastle...
As many stations seem to be duplicated around the UK and there are only a few that are different I am not sure that using a DAB external antenna if I could use one would really be worth considering for what could be gained.
Looking at a list of all the stations available in Tyne and Wear I am only missing Metro Radio and BBC Newcastle as it is.
I guess the fact that I cannot hear Metro Radio and BBC Newcastle now on DAB suggests that they are out of the picture and at best I may be more successful with improvements if things change in Yorkshire.
Not counting duplicates and stations off air waiting to be filled I can pick up around 40 stations on my portable receiver. If they were I might be able to add another 4-5 to my list.