One thing that has changed with Channel 5 HD is the space required for recordings. This was regularly 5/6% for a one hour show and up to 4% for a 30 minute one. I reported on a thread in here a few weeks ago when these bit rates rocketed. As we record a lot of things from this channel we were running out of space every week thanks to these sudden increases.
However, last week they fell again - though not to BBC levels (ie 2% for a one hour show!). They are now at around 4% for the average hour - down on before but still a bit up on most HD channels.
These things might be to do with switches in transponders. So possibly last week there was another switch that might be creating the problems suggested here.
Yeah just turned 5 on at 5pm this evening and it was asking for an upgrade to view it, I thought it was a glitch so I pulled the plug on it and then restarted it but no joy.
So looks like it's only 1-4 that's available free to view in HD. What a load of rubbish, there was only 5 to start with
One thing that has changed with Channel 5 HD is the space required for recordings. This was regularly 5/6% for a one hour show and up to 4% for a 30 minute one. I reported on a thread in here a few weeks ago when these bit rates rocketed. As we record a lot of things from this channel we were running out of space every week thanks to these sudden increases.
However, last week they fell again - though not to BBC levels (ie 2% for a one hour show!). They are now at around 4% for the average hour - down on before but still a bit up on most HD channels.
These things might be to do with switches in transponders. So possibly last week there was another switch that might be creating the problems suggested here.
Still averaging 15 Mbps during an advert, not much has changed. 4-6% is within error really because it depends what is on the other channels on the transponder.
May be sky are getting ready to stop fsfs and people will need a subsciption to Watch any channels on sky as they seem to be arguing with the PSB's abouy how much they should pay
It wouldn't surprise me if FSFS was canned as it's not a money earner for Sky and Freesat is now well established in that market. A current non sub Sky box would still allow you to view the FTA channels though.
It could be that FTV will disappear altogether and channels will either be FTA or subscription only.
According to Channel 5's twitter account they have now joined the HD pack - no more free HD from 5 - rob dogs!
I won#t be surprised if ITV1 goes the same way. Terrestrial broadcasters in the US are earning hefty fees from cable providers and UK broadcasters are making noises about doing the same. Alternatively, the broadcasters could charge Sky to include them in their EPG listing, but remain FTA for Freesat.
Pretty sure its not a glitch. As I said, skys website now shows that CH5 HD is part of EE+. References to free to air channels now all say 7 channels when they used to say 8.
Well, if it has gone pay only, then its numbers will get even worse than they currently are.
So down to about 3 then!
Channel 5 never seen to give the slightest shit about the viewers and just do anything and everything that generates money and sod the viewers and what they want.
But if they lose viewers then that will affect what they can charge for adverts so who will have the last laugh?
Thanks for all the replies, seems strange that they've added it to the HD pack with no warning. The On Demand service was still allowing me to download and watch C5 programmes in HD a few hours ago if anybody can't bear to watch Neighbours in SD
And I bet they don't get any more replies. Typical Channel 5 treating their viewers like scum again.
I would be willing to bet that quite a few freesat from Sky viewers will be making their views on this unfortunate matter quite clear on Channel 5's Twitter feed, Facebook page and contact web form. I look forward to seeing some forthright comments in due course.
I would be willing to bet that quite a few freesat from Sky viewers will be making their views on this unfortunate matter quite clear on Channel 5's Twitter feed, Facebook page and contact web form. I look forward to seeing some forthright comments in due course.
Well I've already started.
But look how they treated people who wanted a Big Brother Live Feed. They removed all comments about it and got some people facebook accounts banned. That is the dirty way Channel 5 act.
Frankly, my dear, channel 5 don't give a flying ****! They won't reply and sit there laughing again.
so lets get this straight, sky put up prices,,,we loose box sets and now 5hd,
Which package are you on? If you're a HD customer, you won't have lost 5HD. If you're not a HD customer, you've only lost something you weren't paying for.
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However, last week they fell again - though not to BBC levels (ie 2% for a one hour show!). They are now at around 4% for the average hour - down on before but still a bit up on most HD channels.
These things might be to do with switches in transponders. So possibly last week there was another switch that might be creating the problems suggested here.
So looks like it's only 1-4 that's available free to view in HD. What a load of rubbish, there was only 5 to start with
Still averaging 15 Mbps during an advert, not much has changed. 4-6% is within error really because it depends what is on the other channels on the transponder.
BBC 1 HD
BBC 2 HD
BBC 3 HD
BBC 4 HD
ITV HD
Channel 4 HD
Channel 5 Grotovision.
It could be that FTV will disappear altogether and channels will either be FTA or subscription only.
So glad they advised all the viewers who now can't view anything recorded in HD.
https://twitter.com/channel5_tv/status/395248956030349313
I won#t be surprised if ITV1 goes the same way. Terrestrial broadcasters in the US are earning hefty fees from cable providers and UK broadcasters are making noises about doing the same. Alternatively, the broadcasters could charge Sky to include them in their EPG listing, but remain FTA for Freesat.
So what's left on FTV now?
I'd agree with that because it looks like 5HD is now being advertised as part of the range of Sky+ HD channels: http://www.sky.com/products/ways-to-watch/sky-plus-hd/ :eek:
Sony Movies
Sony Movies+1
Sky Poker.com
LFCTV
And I bet they don't get any more replies. Typical Channel 5 treating their viewers like scum again.
4Music and Sony TV too, I think.
So down to about 3 then!
Channel 5 never seen to give the slightest shit about the viewers and just do anything and everything that generates money and sod the viewers and what they want.
But if they lose viewers then that will affect what they can charge for adverts so who will have the last laugh?
I would be willing to bet that quite a few freesat from Sky viewers will be making their views on this unfortunate matter quite clear on Channel 5's Twitter feed, Facebook page and contact web form. I look forward to seeing some forthright comments in due course.
They would need another four 5-HD channels to cover all the current regional advertising variants they have in SD on 105.
Unless Sky are going to do all that for them I wouldn't expect it to move from 171 to 105 anytime soon.
Well I've already started.
But look how they treated people who wanted a Big Brother Live Feed. They removed all comments about it and got some people facebook accounts banned. That is the dirty way Channel 5 act.
Frankly, my dear, channel 5 don't give a flying ****! They won't reply and sit there laughing again.
who do they think they are,,, british gas.
time i think to scrutinize what i watch i think,,,would freesat freetime be a better option?
and while i'm at it are there any better phone/broadband deals, haven't looked for years.
Which package are you on? If you're a HD customer, you won't have lost 5HD. If you're not a HD customer, you've only lost something you weren't paying for.
To be fair, it will be Channel 5 that have made this decision, not Sky.