Other dog owners and their opinions

rache_rache_ Posts: 105
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We adopted a puppy back in October, and he is now coming up to a year old. He is part-beagle, and we are having to work a lot on his recall still. We walk him on the beach every morning. Yesterday, my husband was walking him, and decided to keep him on the lead as it was very hot (he has a tendency to over-exert himself), and also because the beach was packed with dogs, and he is easily distracted. On a quiet day, he will come back every time, but work is ongoing.

Another man and his dog approached my husband, and said that it was ok to let the 2 dogs off together. My husband politely declined and said that our dog is still a puppy, and his recall isn't perfect when there are a lot of dogs about. The man then apparently went into a rant about how we have trained him poorly, as he should come back every time. Apparently his breed and age are no excuse, and it is all our fault. He said 'poor training' about 4 times. My husband was very polite with him, but what I really would like your opinions on, is whether he was out of order approaching people out of the blue and commenting on their training techniques (husband had never met the man before, and we know most of the beach-walkers, and have never encountered this before).

Am I wrong being very upset about this, when we work with our dog every day on his recall? I would never go and lecture someone else on their treatment of their dog, unless it was harmful. As an aside, the vet has said he is one of the happiest and well-socialised dogs he has seen in months. We let him off the lead with dogs he knows.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,372
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    no your not wrong he is. He shouldn't of said that its poor training as its not, some breeds are too head strong and believe they are the leader of the pack, so that's absolute crap about it not being the breed or age.

    The only thing I have ever said to other owners was can you put it on a lead please. What a strange man to come and start ranting.
  • Tt88Tt88 Posts: 6,827
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    You were right. I hate it when other dog owners project their dogs behaviour onto others.

    My partners dad was looking after our dog yesterday and took him for a walk. He can be unpredictable around larger dogs so we avoid them. A man had his large dog off the lead and it went towards my dog, the owner shouted out "its ok hes friendly" and my partners dad replied back "i would call him back because i cant guarentee this one would be so friendly". The man called his dog back and all was fine.

    I just cant stand the people that assume that because their dog is friendly, all others will be!

    Our dog is unpredictable because he was a rescue and we dont know what he went through. He seems ok with small dogs but hates large dogs coming up to him off the lead.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,372
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    Tt88 wrote: »
    You were right. I hate it when other dog owners project their dogs behaviour onto others.

    My partners dad was looking after our dog yesterday and took him for a walk. He can be unpredictable around larger dogs so we avoid them. A man had his large dog off the lead and it went towards my dog, the owner shouted out "its ok hes friendly" and my partners dad replied back "i would call him back because i cant guarentee this one would be so friendly". The man called his dog back and all was fine.

    I just cant stand the people that assume that because their dog is friendly, all others will be!

    Our dog is unpredictable because he was a rescue and we dont know what he went through. He seems ok with small dogs but hates large dogs coming up to him off the lead
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    Mine is exactly the same its embarrassing sometimes. He's quite big for a boy staff an he always tries it with big dogs like mastiffs. The only time I can get him to stop is when I have a tennis ball in my hand which steals his attention. Loves people and kids just not to keen on some dogs.
  • rache_rache_ Posts: 105
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    That's exactly what I thought re not knwing what other dogs are like. The amount of people that are happy to let their dogs go bounding up to others when they are on the lead is unbelieveable. Luckily, the only thing our dog would do is play with them, but people wouldn't know that!

    As for this guy, we have just been feeling a bit disheartened, as we have come so far with him. I'm glad it's not just me who would be annoyed.
  • riversmumriversmum Posts: 664
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    The guy is totally out of order. It's your dog and if it runs off you're the one broken hearted and looking for it. If it runs too much and gets heartstroke it's you worrying and rushing to the vets and paying the bill. Google rhabdomyolysis in dogs and then you'll know how serious it can be even if they survive. If the dogs upsets someone and is considered to be out of control it's you in court.

    The guy is a fool and best ignored.

    I know a few people with Beagles and I gather they are very challenging to train as are most scent hounds, after all they were bred to follow a scent and when they get a good scent they go deaf, much like my greyhounds who are sighthounds and can go deaf too when they see prey.
    Good luck with the training, you sound like a responsible owner unlike the idiot man.
  • molliepopsmolliepops Posts: 26,828
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    Well he wouldn't like me mine are rarely off lead, one is a little madam and doesn't comeback no matter how much training we do because she is scared when other dogs approach her and runs like mad away from them. The other is a work in progress but every time we remove her lead so far she barks her head off and sticks so close to our sides she is actually leaning on us. Lead back on she is happy as larry (whoever he is).
  • mrsgrumpy49mrsgrumpy49 Posts: 10,061
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    Well you had various reasons for keeping your dog on a leash that day - all perfectly sensible to me! Plus this guy doesn't know you or the situation, it was none of his business and you didn't you owe him any explanation. What a rude, ignorant numpty that guy was. >:(
  • molliepopsmolliepops Posts: 26,828
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    Well you had various reasons for keeping your dog on a leash that day - all perfectly sensible to me! Plus this guy doesn't know you or the situation, it was none of his business and you didn't you owe him any explanation. What a rude, ignorant numpty that guy was. >:(

    The sort of person a muzzle is designed for I think ;-)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,372
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    its funny how most moany dog owners are older men and always think they are right.
  • gamzattiwoogamzattiwoo Posts: 3,639
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    It takes time to train a dog.If you feel happier with your puppy on a lead around other full grown dogs then on a lead they are.Quite sensible I should think.

    That man had no right to criticise you .Ignore and walk away if you prefer not to be rude.
    Personally I think I may have been rude back.

    I am now on my 4th dog who is 8 months old and still she is a handful and sometimes she makes me feel like a novice dog owner.We persevere with the dog training.
  • CollieWobblesCollieWobbles Posts: 27,290
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    The man was most definitely wrong, do not be upset about this as he obviously knows jack squat about Beagles. Beagles, even ones that are obedient, behave well otherwise and socialised are notoriously difficult to recall. They are scent hounds, bred for hare coursing originally, so not only are they driven by their noses, their also designed to chase after one of the fastest animals around! Put this together and its little wonder their not good at recall! They follow their nose, so if a particularly interesting scent catches their attention they'll go off after it, and Barbara Woodhouse would have difficulty in getting them to return:p. Beagles are not as easy or dainty to keep as they look, they are more powerfully built than most think, and can be very challenging, determined, strong willed little dogs, so I would ignore and forget completely about this man, and instead congratulate yourself for what you have achieved with him which is no small feat for this breed! When I was at animal college doing my grooming training, we had 5 beagles in. For such a easy keep coat, what should have not taken very long, took all of us the entire days' lesson to groom them as they were so unmanageable:o.
  • MuzeMuze Posts: 2,225
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    What an idiot!

    You were entirely in the right and made a responsible decision.

    Sadly, there are just a few people like this about, think they know everything!

    Had it once with a 'friend' of mine. My dog is nervous around unfamiliar dogs, but we thought we'd go for a quiet lead walk together, see if they get used to each other.
    She let her dog off and insisted i do the same, despite my telling her that no that would be a very bad idea, there may be a scrap or my dog may bolt!

    Cue a long lecture about how she'll never learn to get on with other dogs if I don't let her... at which point her dog ran up to mine and attacked her >:(
  • WolfsheadishWolfsheadish Posts: 10,400
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    I had a recent encounter with one of these types. Late one night I was walking my dog back home after our last walk of the day when she stopped for a pee on the grass. Some idiot on the other side of the road started yelling at me "Are you going to pick that up?" He got really irate and got his phone out and started filming. I was gobsmacked! I pointed out my dog had just peed and asked what he wanted me to do with it. A woman he seemed to know walked up with HER dog and calmed him down, trying to explain to him that I had a bitch, but he got very heated in a very short space of time!
  • CollieWobblesCollieWobbles Posts: 27,290
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    I had a recent encounter with one of these types. Late one night I was walking my dog back home after our last walk of the day when she stopped for a pee on the grass. Some idiot on the other side of the road started yelling at me "Are you going to pick that up?" He got really irate and got his phone out and started filming. I was gobsmacked! I pointed out my dog had just peed and asked what he wanted me to do with it. A woman he seemed to know walked up with HER dog and calmed him down, trying to explain to him that I had a bitch, but he got very heated in a very short space of time!

    Oh I have and do get from time to time, one person said in quite a stern voice 'I hope your going to pick that up', to which I retorted 'how exactly do you propose I do that then!':p. That's why I always call loudly ' good GIRL', 'come here GIRL' when she's at a distance. Hopefully that plus the baby pink lead and collar is obvious:kitty:. Or maybe not, seeing as someone once came up to me, looked down at the dog by my side wearing a bright hot pink lead and collar, and asked in all straight faced seriousness 'is he a boy?':D
  • riversmumriversmum Posts: 664
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    Idiots! I've got a partially sighted dog who is absolutely fine with our other 3 dogs but not good with other dogs so he is always walked in a lightweight muzzle and a harness. He goes off lead when there is no one else about and because of his sight I always see people approaching first and pop him on his lead. You would not believe the number of people I've explained this too who then say 'Oh let him off, my dog needs to learn they're not all friendly' !!!
    How stupid can they get? even with a muzzle he can frighten other dogs and if the dog turned on him his eyes are very precious, he's had major surgery on them and has an artificial lens in one. And I don't want to let him be aggressive towards other dogs.
    I will never understand some people!
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