One container found, how many more not found?
A dead man is among more than 30 suspected illegal immigrants found in a container at Tilbury Docks.
At least 13 of those discovered, including four children, have been taken to Basildon Hospital with "significant health problems".
Seven ambulances attended the scene, along with members of the hazardous response team and doctors.
I'm sorry for this death, but, how many are actually coming into England?
Illegal immigrants seem to be flowing into our country for fun.
Thirty two found on just the one container.
How many are getting through without detection?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28817688
http://news.sky.com/story/1319678/one-dead-as-sick-migrants-found-in-container
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I do care, I care for the 20 year olds with no job or only know the world of zero hours contracts.
These people have come for a better life, but I think we need to make sure people born and bred in this country also get better lives.
Easiest way to stop this is extreme punishment to anyone employing illegals or housing them. Then you can have open borders as they are effectively tourists.
Yes the black market needs to be eliminated, other countries seem to have had more success in doing that hence the drive to get to the UK, but I'm not sure how they achieved it.
However human rights (with the children involved) have a fit if we lock them in a detention centre. So we allow them homes in the community, and legal teams.
Fun ? The poor people are quite literally putting their lives on the line - where's the fun in that?
Was this container reported because of the death and only because of the death?
i thought he was asking how many containers slip through.
They do it by doing what Preston says.
Very large fines and prison sentences for employing them. Prison sentences for CEOs or Company Secretaries would make plenty of boards think twice, and this is often overlooked as it is always assumed it is small backstreet businesses employing them, this is not necessarily the case.
I've mentioned before about being approached by cleaning 'companies' that want paying by cheque after every visit and so on, these are illegal workers more often than not, and many large companies employ them no questions asked.
Mine were just subsequent questions. If more containers have been slipping through then we need to know why. A thorough inquiry is required into the goings on at Tilbury docks.
ERM........ 2?..........4?.........31?........10,000?
Point is, they are getting in illegally, so we can't know how many, and unless we employ an army of people at every port into this island to open and search every single container, and vehicle coming into this country I don't really know what we can do to stop them,
fact is people are desperate beyond anything most of us born and bred here could even begin to understand, and as such they will just about try anything no matter what the risk if they think there is a chance of a better life for themselves and their families at the end of it, to many of them this countries streets really are paved with gold,
I know this, if my children were going hungry and without clothes, education or decent medical care, and are living in an oppressive society, I wouldn't care how difficult or dangerous it was, I would do anything within my power to get them to a better place,
I am not saying we should just let them in, but I certainly don't blame the individual for trying,
There needs to be a serious and untied effort by all the 'advanced' western countries to find a solution to this problem because it's certainly not going to go away, and is only going to get worse over the next century as resources continue to diminish and populations continue to increase at an unsustainable level,
Firm messages need to be sent out.
When you've got the Mayor of Calais wanting the border moving to England and asylum seekers sent here to be processed. Why is it our problem? it is France's problem for letting them in, send them back where they came from.
The reports are that they are from the "Indian sub continent". If that's the case then they aren't entitled to asylum. They are just illegal economic immigrants. Asylum has a specific meaning but too many people call all illegal immigrants "asylum seekers".
Returned to where? If they have any sense then they will have no documentation on them so any other country could just claim that they weren't their problem either.
http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e4876d6.html
These poor people, once we have patched them up, must be sent back to anywhere on the sub-Continent, even if they have no paperwork, with the message: "There's nothing to gain by going to Great Britain. They have no money to look after their own people, let alone us!"
What a horrible thing to say.
Yes, just what I was going to say.
What happens to the immigrants after being caught? How frequently are lorries and containers checked? Is 1000 per year a sample of a bigger problem?
I wouldn't
call dying and hospitalised children exactly doing it for "fun" as you put it.
If the immigrants are found at the UK border in France , they are handed over to the French police who just let them go back to the other gangs etc camping out by the port . I think the reason why the numbers of lorries being fined has actually gone down is due to EU pressure to go soft on the lorry drivers and hauliers . The fines originally were huge , £20 k plus , but now they are often less than £2000 .