Gold Manchester, the message has started.

richie wildrichie wild Posts: 9,893
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Getting ready for the closure of MXR North West in a few weeks, I thought I'd realign my DAB aerial to get the best of the Machester local MUX. However, it appears Gold is leaving even that too, despite being on AM in the area. Why are they shutting the North West off when it's also on Medium Wave?
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  • omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,816
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    Getting ready for the closure of MXR North West in a few weeks, I thought I'd realign my DAB aerial to get the best of the Machester local MUX. However, it appears Gold is leaving even that too, despite being on AM in the area. Why are they shutting the North West off when it's also on Medium Wave?

    They need the space to accommodate Real/Heart/Capital.

    When Real is eventually replaced by Heart, perhaps they will bring back Gold.
  • Les WiresLes Wires Posts: 6,610
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    Getting ready for the closure of MXR North West in a few weeks, I thought I'd realign my DAB aerial to get the best of the Machester local MUX. However, it appears Gold is leaving even that too, despite being on AM in the area. Why are they shutting the North West off when it's also on Medium Wave?
    I suspect Gold will eventually close when Global make the Smooth-Gold decision.

    Gold was taken off the Birmingham mux a while ago when Free 80s was launched and never reinstated even though there was adequate capacity on muxes in the area.

    Seems like the slippery slope.
  • GenesysGenesys Posts: 427
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    Gold was taken off by Orion and could not be replaced in Brum as Smooth is there and it would have affected the whole CC thing...
  • Les WiresLes Wires Posts: 6,610
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    Genesys wrote: »
    Gold was taken off by Orion and could not be replaced in Brum as Smooth is there and it would have affected the whole CC thing...

    Didn't Orion replace Gold with Free80s when they decided to end the franchise agreement with Global. Gold and Smooth had been operating alongside each other for many years and this was way before the GMG/Global takeover and associated CC study was in progress.

    Unless I'm missing something.....
  • BMRBMR Posts: 4,351
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    What does the message say? Are they signposting people to the AM service?
  • omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,816
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    BMR wrote: »
    What does the message say? Are they signposting people to the AM service?

    They point you to Sky, Freesat, Virgin Media, online, mobile apps, and suggest checking the website for frequencies but don't specifically mention AM.

    Gold on MXR is still broadcasting as normal but the Manchester feed is looping the message, so has in effect already ceased.
  • Rob793Rob793 Posts: 746
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    The Gold Manchester DAB feed has a looped trail voiced by Tony Dibbin stating that Gold is no longer available in this area on DAB. The scrolling text denotes that Gold will be removed on September 12th.

    This is in preparation for the addition of Real, Smooth and Capital to the Manchester multiplex.

    It remains to be seen whether local weather and travel for Manchester will be maintained on Gold 1458am. Could the licence just be abandoned?

    Gold has gone in Scotland, the Midlands and most of the north of England on DAB, save for Yorkshire where it is enjoying a swansong on the regional multiplex till at least next year, albeit it at 64kbps!
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  • Ethan RayneEthan Rayne Posts: 607
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    With Global 'taking control' of smooth operation it is more than likely they see Smooth as the most marketable of the 2 brands, what they could do is merge Smooth 70's and Gold, Smooth 70's already has a slot on D1 so all the need to do is put it on the AM frequency's.
  • BMRBMR Posts: 4,351
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    Rob793 wrote: »
    It remains to be seen whether local weather and travel for Manchester will be maintained on Gold 1458am. Could the licence just be abandoned?

    You do wonder what the future holds for Gold on 1458, especially as the programming is not a million miles from Magic 1152.

    If it does close, hopefully the frequency will be given to Asian Sound radio- their signal on 1377 sounded pretty weak when I spent a couple of weeks in Fallowfield this time last year.
  • jimbojimbo Posts: 16,283
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    if the 1458 licence is dropped it will go off air for good. As far as I am aware, any MW licence that is surrendered is NOT being readivertised.
  • omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,816
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    BMR wrote: »
    You do wonder what the future holds for Gold on 1458, especially as the programming is not a million miles from Magic 1152.

    If it does close, hopefully the frequency will be given to Asian Sound radio- their signal on 1377 sounded pretty weak when I spent a couple of weeks in Fallowfield this time last year.

    Asian Sound's 1377 signal is dreadful, it only operates at 0.08kW. A French station totally swamps it overnight. Gold and Magic use the same TX site but with far greater power.
  • wavy-davywavy-davy Posts: 7,122
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    Asian Sound's 1377 signal is dreadful, it only operates at 0.08kW. A French station totally swamps it overnight. Gold and Magic use the same TX site but with far greater power.

    Using 963 synchronised with the east lancs transmitter would make more sense imo. Stupid choice of frequency by Ofcock.
  • jaffboy151jaffboy151 Posts: 1,933
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    So yet another area where dab choice bites the dust..
  • hanssolohanssolo Posts: 22,648
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    Not according to Global!
    http://www.mygoldmusic.co.uk/Article.asp?id=486495&spid=18956
    1st September 2013
    Unfortunately you can no longer receive the Gold signal on DAB in a number of areas throughout the UK.
    This is because of the ongoing DAB reorganisation plan to replace the regional multiplexes with even more local multiplexes - therefore offering more choice of radio to more people.
    During the transition period there will be times when some areas won't be able to receive the Gold (and other radio stations) signal on DAB.
    Does seem to hint they will bring Gold back or as Les and Ethan say perhaps merge with Smooth or Smooth 70's?
    Rob793 wrote: »

    This is in preparation for the addition of Real, Smooth and Capital to the Manchester multiplex.
    At least they are keeping these stereo rather than go 64k or 80k mono?
  • GeorgeSGeorgeS Posts: 20,039
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    hanssolo wrote: »
    Not according to Global!
    http://www.mygoldmusic.co.uk/Article.asp?id=486495&spid=18956

    Does seem to hint they will bring Gold back or perhaps merge with Smooth or Smooth 70's?

    its still an utter farce. How can you grow an audience by pulling the station off DAB for months and then expect the audience to return?
  • BollardBollard Posts: 3,417
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    GeorgeS wrote: »
    its still an utter farce. How can you grow an audience by pulling the station off DAB for months and then expect the audience to return?
    I can't imagine they would be doing this unless listening figures for Gold on DAB (only) are very low.
  • GenesysGenesys Posts: 427
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    I think it's more the point that these areas happen to be in areas that are under CC investigation with the Real / Smooth takeover so I think Global won't want to change the landscape which might delay a decision.

    I do think the Smooth 70's channel could easily be flipped to take the Gold feed thus giving Global most of the brands national coverage, but of course this couldnt happen until the CC are done.
  • richie wildrichie wild Posts: 9,893
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    hanssolo wrote: »
    Not according to Global!
    http://www.mygoldmusic.co.uk/Article.asp?id=486495&spid=18956

    Does seem to hint they will bring Gold back or as Les and Ethan say perhaps merge with Smooth or Smooth 70's?

    When Gold left the Liverpool MUX for the MXR one there was a few days when it was not available, so the talk of it being unavailable through the "transition period" is at least hopeful. Gold in mono on D1 would be better than it not being available at all, and would have the benefit of being receivable around most of the country without the need to retune.
  • BMRBMR Posts: 4,351
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    Gold in mono on D1 would be better than it not being available at all,

    No chance, D1 is already cram-jam full.
  • GORTONIANGORTONIAN Posts: 8,673
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    Not entirely surprised over Gold
    I just see it as just another example of Globals increasingly cavalier attitude to their listeners..losing LBC was bad enough:mad:
    I've now three DAB receivers which will be apart from my occasional peep in to Radio four extra virtually useless :eek:
    Wouldn't even mind to add insult to injury I don't know of any DAB radios with am included
    Internet radio for me all the way now
    Even if Gold goes to FM here in Manchester still bad news
    Both Smooth and Real frequency's are appalling reception wise as I've mentioned on DS before and I'm two and a half miles from city centre 105-4 Real especially so
    To paraphrase the old Gold its all about the music tag..
    Global its all about the cash ..!!! Shameful:cry:
  • tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    GORTONIAN wrote: »
    Not entirely surprised over Gold
    I just see it as just another example of Globals increasingly cavalier attitude to their listeners..losing LBC was bad enough:mad:
    I've now three DAB receivers which will be apart from my occasional peep in to Radio four extra virtually useless :eek:
    Wouldn't even mind to add insult to injury I don't know of any DAB radios with am included
    Internet radio for me all the way now
    Even if Gold goes to FM here in Manchester still bad news
    Both Smooth and Real frequency's are appalling reception wise as I've mentioned on DS before and I'm two and a half miles from city centre 105-4 Real especially so
    To paraphrase the old Gold its all about the music tag..
    Global its all about the cash ..!!! Shameful:cry:
    I can't remember the last time beyond testing on a Linux laptop that I listened to a DAB station.

    If you want choice beyond pop, rock, dance, R'n'B and mono, you'll have to look elsewhere, with the handsome subscription you'll have to pay on top to an ISP and/or mobile phone network. Even the BBC is starting to look at giving the boot to specialist content. If you want more than that on a portable device, Internet radio is the only game in town.

    Money talks and specialist walks. :(
  • LocksmithLocksmith Posts: 572
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    If I were to lose Gold DAB in Kent I don't know what I would do!!
  • PDMBPDMB Posts: 883
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    hanssolo wrote: »

    Interesting to note that 'Sussex and Surrey (1521)' + 'Bradford (1278/1530)' are still listed on the page as AM frequencies broadcasting Gold.

    1521 - closed two and a half years ago (1/2/11).
    1278/1530- became Pulse 2 on December 1st 2008.
  • BMRBMR Posts: 4,351
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    GORTONIAN wrote: »
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    Even if Gold goes to FM here in Manchester still bad news
    Both Smooth and Real frequency's are appalling reception wise as I've mentioned on DS before and I'm two and a half miles from city centre 105-4 Real especially so

    And yet Winter Hill's signal goes for miles in other directions.
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