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Spike/5USA LCN swap

omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,822
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Taken from http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/spike-tv-to-launch-with-breaking-bad/5085435.article
Spike launches in April and will air on Freeview channel 31, the slot which previously housed 5USA. The US-themed channel [will move] to slot 21, replacing Viva.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    Thanks for that, especially useful following the news that 'Breaking Bad' is to air on Spike.
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    linkinpark875linkinpark875 Posts: 29,703
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    Moving it down from a prominent EPG says it all.

    This channel will be niche like TruTV.

    A sad end to channel 21 started as TMF in 2002. 13 year run as a music chnanel despite very quickly not becoming much of a music channel.
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    BizmanBizman Posts: 749
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    Moving it down from a prominent EPG says it all.
    I won't be surprised now if 5* tries to claim LCN7 when it becomes vacant on the basis that it is near Ch5.
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    chrisychrisy Posts: 9,419
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    Moving it down from a prominent EPG says it all.

    They haven't moved it. Spike is a new channel, not a rebrand of Viva. LCN rules.
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    BizmanBizman Posts: 749
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    chrisy wrote: »
    They haven't moved it. Spike is a new channel, not a rebrand of Viva. LCN rules.
    We are referring to 5USA which will be moving from 31 to 21.
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    DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    Bizman wrote: »
    I won't be surprised now if 5* tries to claim LCN7 when it becomes vacant on the basis that it is near Ch5.

    You mean if BBC 3 goes online only! Who is to stop the BBC moving BBC 4 to LCN 7 & LCN 8 being nabbed by local TV in Wales and Scotland? That is if BBC 3 closes!
    Channel 5 could try and claim the current local TV in Wales and Scotland LCN in that scenario which I think is LCN23?
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    phildunk1986phildunk1986 Posts: 1,658
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    Bizman wrote: »
    I won't be surprised now if 5* tries to claim LCN7 when it becomes vacant on the basis that it is near Ch5.

    The BBC will still want LCN 7 if BBC Three closes for BBC One+1.

    You would thought Viacom would have moved 5* to LCN 21 as some of Viva's programming is moving there with Spike launching on LCN 30.
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    chrisychrisy Posts: 9,419
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    Bizman wrote: »
    We are referring to 5USA which will be moving from 31 to 21.

    That's moving to a more prominent LCN.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    Viva is effectively being demoted from Ch21 to Ch30.
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    BizmanBizman Posts: 749
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    ntscuser wrote: »
    Viva is effectively being demoted from Ch21 to Ch30.
    Not so much demoted as dismissed from service. :)
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    AngusMastAngusMast Posts: 5,153
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    If Viacom left Viva at 21 and closed it, they would lose LCN 21 to Local TV and Spike would end up on LCN 74

    By moving VIva to 31, then closing it, they can reclaim 31 for Spike due to it being next to 5*. and keep LCN 21 of course.
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    DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    AngusMast wrote: »
    If Viacom left Viva at 21 and closed it, they would lose LCN 21 to Local TV and Spike would end up on LCN 74

    By moving VIva to 31, then closing it, they can reclaim 31 for Spike due to it being next to 5*. and keep LCN 21 of course.

    Then they could switch them later I suppose?
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    steveboswellsteveboswell Posts: 1,431
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    The BBC will still want LCN 7 if BBC Three closes for BBC One+1.

    I can't find the link now, but the BBC Trust's report on the launch of BBC One+1 says they won't use LCN 7, but will take the first available slot at the "back" of the grid. I would imagine this is a purely 'political' decision to placate commercial rivals,
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    hyperstarspongehyperstarsponge Posts: 16,701
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    They could swap 5USA over to Freeview channel 21 overnight tonight, Just tell people the new number for 5USA but do not do the same for VIVA. Then they could claim Spike TV is a new channel on Freeview 31 when it launches.
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    chrisychrisy Posts: 9,419
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    They could swap 5USA over to Freeview channel 21 overnight tonight, Just tell people the new number for 5USA but do not do the same for VIVA. Then they could claim Spike TV is a new channel on Freeview 31 when it launches.

    More likely that Viva will go down to 74, with a Spike placeholder on 31. That way they can claim they are shuffling their channels into a more logical order and retain use of 21, before removing Viva days later.
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    DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    chrisy wrote: »
    More likely that Viva will go down to 74, with a Spike placeholder on 31. That way they can claim they are shuffling their channels into a more logical order and retain use of 21, before removing Viva days later.

    Then shuffle 5USA and Skike to opposites later meaning Spike could get the better number later?
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    BizmanBizman Posts: 749
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    Looks like the change is set to happen on April 15th.
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    Paul237Paul237 Posts: 8,654
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    I won't miss Viva. It stopped being a music channel years ago. See ya.

    Spike looks a bit rubbish, too. Breaking Bad as its flagship show? It's a great series but there are hills that are younger.
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    BizmanBizman Posts: 749
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    Anyone know at what time the changeover will occur? The programmes for Spike don't start until 19:00. Viva's schedule carries on regardless, but we can ignore that. :)
    Probably LCNs in the 790s will be involved.
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    chrisychrisy Posts: 9,419
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    Bizman wrote: »
    Anyone know at what time the changeover will occur? The programmes for Spike don't start until 19:00. Viva's schedule carries on regardless, but we can ignore that. :)
    Probably LCNs in the 790s will be involved.

    Usually changes occur in the 11am-1pm sort of window. Looks likely now to happen on the day itself, although if it was me in charge I would have insisted on the Spike LCN being added as a placeholder already.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    Paul237 wrote: »
    Spike looks a bit rubbish, too. Breaking Bad as its flagship show?

    Or 'Olympus' which has only just premiered on US TV so is still a bit of an unknown quantity.
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    BizmanBizman Posts: 749
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    chrisy wrote: »
    Usually changes occur in the 11am-1pm sort of window. Looks likely now to happen on the day itself, although if it was me in charge I would have insisted on the Spike LCN being added as a placeholder already.
    Trouble is that without placeholders, until the changeover has happened there will be two LCNs both with two lots of programme content for their EPGs & programme guides to display & that is not physically possible.
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    hyperstarspongehyperstarsponge Posts: 16,701
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    They could switch 5USA with VIVA now.
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    CyberSimianCyberSimian Posts: 374
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    Paul237 wrote: »
    Breaking Bad as its flagship show? It's a great series but there are hills that are younger.
    That may be so, but I have not seen any of it.

    I was in Sainsburys recently (other supermarkets are available), and in their DVD section I noticed that they had all 5(?) series of "Breaking Bad". I contemplated purchasing them, but decided that I did not really want to add drama about drug addiction to my DVD collection, no matter how highly-rated that drama is. But I will set up my Humax to record it. :)

    -- from CyberSimian in the UK
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    Zeppelyn56Zeppelyn56 Posts: 455
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    chrisy wrote: »
    That's moving to a more prominent LCN.

    Not if you do as I do and flick back frpm 101 ;-)
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