I'm all for starting another campaign called 'No Stone Unturned' too - and marching all over the bloody country, up and down every street, increasing awareness of the real problem (while sticking to facts, obviously). I realise there's practically zero chance of a complete clean-out, but every pervert off the street (figuratively speaking) is a bonus for the poor children they've abused or might abuse in future.
I'm all for starting another campaign called 'No Stone Unturned' too - and marching all over the bloody country, up and down every street, increasing awareness of the real problem (while sticking to facts, obviously). I realise there's practically zero chance of a complete clean-out, but every pervert off the street is a bonus for the poor children they've abused or might abuse in future.
Hear, hear. I think also that sexual abuse should be an important component of sex education, so that children become more 'street wise' about the whole issue, unpleasant though it may be.
I'm all for starting another campaign called 'No Stone Unturned' too - and marching all over the bloody country, up and down every street, increasing awareness of the real problem (while sticking to facts, obviously). I realise there's practically zero chance of a complete clean-out, but every pervert off the street is a bonus for the poor children they've abused or might abuse in future.
You are right of course, Nothing short of a revolution will pull these high powered scum out of their positions of power. They have set it all up so they are protected...
And as such, if you marched up and down the nation "they" would have you commited to a mental hospital.
It really is FUBAR. As sad as it may sound, the only thing I think that can "save us", is the Media, and I don't mean the BBC. I mean we need some Woodward and Bernstein moment. Someone with the balls to break this thing wide open.
Saddly, even though the "truth is out there", people have been brainwashed by the Matrix to only accept something as "official" once officialdom has said so......and as the BBC is wound up in all this, it will of course be a dark day in hell before they tell the truth.
What it needs, is a moment, an event, something to turn the leaky crack in the Dam, in to a great gushing flood.
Come on Murdoch, this is your chance to make amends. You are one of the few with the power to pull it off.
Hear, hear. I think also that sexual abuse should be an important component of sex education, so that children become more 'street wise' about the whole issue, unpleasant though it may be.
I mentioned earlier that Liz Davies seems to have taken that exact route - as a speaker in schools. I was thinking of volunteering myself, should there be a need locally. The more reminders they have that there are people prepared to help, the better, obviously.
Hear, hear. I think also that sexual abuse should be an important component of sex education, so that children become more 'street wise' about the whole issue, unpleasant though it may be.
It's been part of education for decades.The problem is the adults committing the crimes.
You are right of course, Nothing short of a revolution will pull these high powered scum out of their positions of power. They have set it all up so they are protected...
And as such, if you marched up and down the nation "they" would have you commited to a mental hospital.
It really is FUBAR. As sad as it may sound, the only thing I think that can "save us", is the Media, and I don't mean the BBC. I mean we need some Woodward and Bernstein moment. Someone with the balls to break this thing wide open.
Saddly, even though the "truth is out there", people have been brainwashed by the Matrix to only accept something as "official" once officialdom has said so......and as the BBC is wound up in all this, it will of course be a dark day in hell before they tell the truth.
What it needs, is a moment, an event, something to turn the leaky crack in the Dam, in to a great gushing flood.
Come on Murdoch, this is your chance to make amends. You are one of the few with the power to pull it off.
Applauds - and then cries. I'm really not one to pray, but this is one of those situations when you feel so completely powerless. It's a massive psychological rape, if you know what I mean - of the whole population.
But we're adults. We have no excuse for keeping quiet or accepting this ****.
How did Savile abuse at the BBC for so long? How did the Jersey care home scandal get shut down? How did a known abuser but still a lowly DJ get keys to a mental hospital?
Because there are people higher up the food chain who protected and empowered him.
People ask with incredulity "How do they get away with it"??....Simple, because the "Establishment" from the BBC to parliament to social services is rotten to the core in this country, and likely run by the Pedo gangs themselves.
It had long been rumoured that Savile, who at the time was in his mid-40s, was taking advantage of under age girls on the Top of the Pops set and elsewhere. But he was also one of the BBC’s biggest draws.
What amazes me is that he is portrayed as having been so popular. I was a teenager in the seventies and NOBODY but nobody I knew rated him at all. We all thought he was old and creepy. Makes me wonder why he was thought so highly of and by whom.
Edwina Currie had sex with John Major and then bragged about it. Anyone who could make that decision was obviously deluded and should never have been able to decide that JS was a suitable candidate for heading a task force in a home for the criminally insane!
What amazes me is that he is portrayed as having been so popular. I was a teenager in the seventies and NOBODY but nobody I knew rated him at all. We all thought he was old and creepy. Makes me wonder why he was thought so highly of and by whom.
I think his real 'popularity' came from his Radio days in Radio Luxembourg and Radio 1 in the first half of the 60s and the start of TOTP. He was sort of a pioneer in DJing, by 1965 he was voted DJ of the year- here's an example from 1967 that indicates his notability (about people appearing at fetes):
"Television names are the most asked for. "Everyone these days would love to have David Frost". one fete organizer said. But Mr Frost's fee, among the most expensive these days, is reputed to be £400 or more.
Eamonn Andrews would cost more than £300; Jimmy Savile, the disc jockey, about £200. That is no more than average for a leading "name", though you could, with luck, pick a rising pop star with a far-sighted manager for, say, £75 or a little under"
I think his real 'popularity' came from his Radio days in Radio Luxembourg and Radio 1 in the first half of the 60s and the start of TOTP. He was sort of a pioneer in DJing, by 1965 he was voted DJ of the year- here's an example from 1967 that indicates his notability (about people appearing at fetes):
"Television names are the most asked for. "Everyone these days would love to have David Frost". one fete organizer said. But Mr Frost's fee, among the most expensive these days, is reputed to be £400 or more.
Eamonn Andrews would cost more than £300; Jimmy Savile, the disc jockey, about £200. That is no more than average for a leading "name", though you could, with luck, pick a rising pop star with a far-sighted manager for, say, £75 or a little under"
Radio One wasn't around in the first half of the 1960s. It only started in 1967.
Woops sorry you're right, so it was just Radio Luxembourg that started it then, it was the big thing for kids in those days, and he was voted DJ of the year in 65.
Interesting, they also mention Alan Franey who became head of Broadmoor, who was a friend of Savile and had worked at Leeds General Infirmary for 10 years, but that had nothing to do with him getting the job he says:rolleyes:. Also denies this:
"Ray Rowden, a former senior NHS executive supervising England’s three high-security hospitals — a job he took up in 1996, a year before Mr Franey’s retirement — said: “[Mr Franey] used to boast that he would drive [Savile] around nightclubs in Leeds in the 1980s.” Mr Franey said claims he had driven Savile to nightclubs were “rubbish”. "
Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales. He was in prisons, hospitals, care homes, schools and supporting scouts, sea cadets and youth clubs all over.
Paedophiles find like minded people. His travelling all over was a good cover.
Haut de la Garenne is a good place to start, it has links to other places. This with savile appears to have been on the internet for a while and its coming out into mainsteam.
This though goes further than Saville. There are people in high places who were obviously protecting him.
Are they allowing this to come out with Saville to stop an even bigger story breaking?????
harriet harman lord longfords neice wants concent droped to 14
I'm on the fence here. I lost my virginity at 14 and I know many of my friends did too - many with 16-17 year-old boys, and often with their parents' permission.
Basically, I don't think there's an age where you suddenly become ready, so I think parents need to make decisions based on individual circumstances. What you don't want is kids feeling ashamed of their sexuality; feeling wrong, dirty - having to lie and keep secrets. It's a difficult one to get right, and I can see both sides of the argument.
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Seems there was a foul and nasty atmosphere at that match last night with a load of offensive songs being sung.
remember the romanian revolution began at a football match
whats offencive the crime or the chant id prefer the chant
Hear, hear. I think also that sexual abuse should be an important component of sex education, so that children become more 'street wise' about the whole issue, unpleasant though it may be.
You are right of course, Nothing short of a revolution will pull these high powered scum out of their positions of power. They have set it all up so they are protected...
And as such, if you marched up and down the nation "they" would have you commited to a mental hospital.
It really is FUBAR. As sad as it may sound, the only thing I think that can "save us", is the Media, and I don't mean the BBC. I mean we need some Woodward and Bernstein moment. Someone with the balls to break this thing wide open.
Saddly, even though the "truth is out there", people have been brainwashed by the Matrix to only accept something as "official" once officialdom has said so......and as the BBC is wound up in all this, it will of course be a dark day in hell before they tell the truth.
What it needs, is a moment, an event, something to turn the leaky crack in the Dam, in to a great gushing flood.
Come on Murdoch, this is your chance to make amends. You are one of the few with the power to pull it off.
I mentioned earlier that Liz Davies seems to have taken that exact route - as a speaker in schools. I was thinking of volunteering myself, should there be a need locally. The more reminders they have that there are people prepared to help, the better, obviously.
It's been part of education for decades.The problem is the adults committing the crimes.
Applauds - and then cries. I'm really not one to pray, but this is one of those situations when you feel so completely powerless. It's a massive psychological rape, if you know what I mean - of the whole population.
But we're adults. We have no excuse for keeping quiet or accepting this ****.
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It seems the Telegraph is the one to watch. (The BBC on the other hand might be completely screwed...)
To whoever's making editorial decisions over there, keep 'em coming (but be careful) - and thank-you!
That's as near as to the truth we will ever get .
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It had long been rumoured that Savile, who at the time was in his mid-40s, was taking advantage of under age girls on the Top of the Pops set and elsewhere. But he was also one of the BBC’s biggest draws.
What amazes me is that he is portrayed as having been so popular. I was a teenager in the seventies and NOBODY but nobody I knew rated him at all. We all thought he was old and creepy. Makes me wonder why he was thought so highly of and by whom.
I wondered why Edwina had been so quiet .
She doesn't usually miss a chance to spout out about something.
"Television names are the most asked for. "Everyone these days would love to have David Frost". one fete organizer said. But Mr Frost's fee, among the most expensive these days, is reputed to be £400 or more.
Eamonn Andrews would cost more than £300; Jimmy Savile, the disc jockey, about £200. That is no more than average for a leading "name", though you could, with luck, pick a rising pop star with a far-sighted manager for, say, £75 or a little under"
I'll second that. This is really encouraging.
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"As sad as it may sound, the only thing I think that can "save us", is the Media..."
And that. Please let them do the right thing here.
Interesting, thanks. A bit before my time . . .
Radio One wasn't around in the first half of the 1960s. It only started in 1967.
Interesting, they also mention Alan Franey who became head of Broadmoor, who was a friend of Savile and had worked at Leeds General Infirmary for 10 years, but that had nothing to do with him getting the job he says:rolleyes:. Also denies this:
"Ray Rowden, a former senior NHS executive supervising England’s three high-security hospitals — a job he took up in 1996, a year before Mr Franey’s retirement — said: “[Mr Franey] used to boast that he would drive [Savile] around nightclubs in Leeds in the 1980s.” Mr Franey said claims he had driven Savile to nightclubs were “rubbish”. "
Paedophiles find like minded people. His travelling all over was a good cover.
Haut de la Garenne is a good place to start, it has links to other places. This with savile appears to have been on the internet for a while and its coming out into mainsteam.
This though goes further than Saville. There are people in high places who were obviously protecting him.
Are they allowing this to come out with Saville to stop an even bigger story breaking?????
I'm on the fence here. I lost my virginity at 14 and I know many of my friends did too - many with 16-17 year-old boys, and often with their parents' permission.
Basically, I don't think there's an age where you suddenly become ready, so I think parents need to make decisions based on individual circumstances. What you don't want is kids feeling ashamed of their sexuality; feeling wrong, dirty - having to lie and keep secrets. It's a difficult one to get right, and I can see both sides of the argument.