Channel 4 has 6 macro regions for adverts on SD and Channel 5 has 5 IIRC. At the moment there is only one HD versions of both channels (London) so swapping them with the SD versions would mean viewers outside London would probably be watching the wrong adverts.
They should have on the sky hd box in the options or settings section something like do you want to change the channels bbc 1 bbc 2 itv channel 4 channel 5 as hd channels something like that so we choose if we want them swapped round do you want to change sd with hd
They should have on the sky hd box in the options or settings section something like do you want to change the channels bbc 1 bbc 2 itv channel 4 channel 5 as hd channels something like that so we choose if we want them swapped round do you want to change sd with hd
Don't think Sky are allowed to do that, think they have to 'ensure' the right advert regions go to the right box
Surely advertising is only relevant if viewers can't tell the difference between SD and HD and therefore settle for watching the SD variation? Has HD been a con all along?
Which wouldn't be an issue if the SD and HD versions matched each other exactly.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see BBC Three HD and BBC Four HD do the channel swap on Sky.
It might be ..... It is something the ;lawyers are looking at......
because they are not "the Legacy Analogue channels"
on the other hand the SD channels as PSB ...!!!#But there then is a Platform Neutrality and universality issues... although the Trust and 600Mhz muxes has made that more applicable for the current/ future world.
I've got an "HD-Ready" tv....but I'm quite happy with my SD reception to be honest. What's the fuss about HD??
Is it a case of "I've got a better TV than yours" or people just want to see high definition of peoples skin and a clearer version of grass on a football pitch?? It baffles me. I just like to watch a good story on the telly. :rolleyes:
I've got an "HD-Ready" tv....but I'm quite happy with my SD reception to be honest. What's the fuss about HD??
Is it a case of "I've got a better TV than yours" or people just want to see high definition of peoples skin and a clearer version of grass on a football pitch?? It baffles me. I just like to watch a good story on the telly. :rolleyes:
When UTV HD launches next month it will be on 103 for NI Sky viewers with HD. Strangely, BBC ONE NI HD isn't on 101 but I believe the BBC said they are looking in to it.
I have a full HD TV but hardly ever bother using HD. Seems like a flop to me like 3D and Blu-Ray.
It's a major flop that the BBC is committed to making all it's channels HD by the start of next year.
Such a major flop that smaller broadcasters are investing in it
Such a major flop that Sky can still charge £5 for it
Such a major flop the Freeview/Freesat HD boxes
Regarding BluRay being a flop, it is estimated that by the end of the year, BluRay sales will outweigh DVD sales for the first time ever.
I think a lot of people just turn the sharpness up high or go for the "vivid" preset to make everything look bright and colourful. Options like "noise reduction" and automatic enhancers are usually on by default too, which all serve to diminish the HD quality.
Well. I seemed to see far more of a difference on the 32 inch Toshiba I had. I am blowed if I can see any difference on this 42 inch JVC I have now. The JVC looks bright and well set up. The Toshiba packed up on me.
No that I am really bothered. SD looks fine and I am far more interested in good content than seeing ugly pimples on somebody's face,
It's funny how the Sky layout works. The Sky HD are towards the "bottom end" but the BBC HD ones are still high up. If you have an HD box then they should arrange them like that, if not they shouldn't be. What's wrong with programming the boxes to arrange them a little more sensibly?
I have an SD box where they swap places and the HD ones are high up, but they still show up there, all of them showing a message to call Sky to get these channels. One: I already have them on by HD box and Two: - You can't get them on SD boxes anyway so why do they even appear?
I have a full HD TV but hardly ever bother using HD. Seems like a flop to me like 3D and Blu-Ray.
Hardly a flop and it will become the norm until something better come's along, As a lot of people will be getting bigger and bigger TV's, at my age I am just glad to be able to see the picture SD or HD:)
Barb says the average weekly viewing for ITV1 and ITV+1 is over 4 hours. It is only 21 minutes for ITV HD. I suspect that figure wont rise much as those who are keen on watching in HD are already doing so.
I am glad to be able to see the screen at all. Had my bus pass a couple of years now.
When UTV HD launches next month it will be on 103 for NI Sky viewers with HD. Strangely, BBC ONE NI HD isn't on 101 but I believe the BBC said they are looking in to it.
Barb says the average weekly viewing for ITV1 and ITV+1 is over 4 hours. It is only 21 minutes for ITV HD. I suspect that figure wont rise much as those who are keen on watching in HD are already doing so.
I am glad to be able to see the screen at all. Had my bus pass a couple of years now.
Regardless of how good your vision may be isn't HD better than SD? If you can get HD, isn't that worthwhile as long as the cost isn't that much extra?
It does look like HD sales are strong but many folks are not bothering to actually switch to the HD channels. Maybe some don't even know they have to tune to 101 or whatever?? If viewing figures remain at less than 10% the broadcasters may decide to pull the plugs on it and use the space for other channels.
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Irrelevant. It's regional variations in advertising that's stopping it.
E4, More4, ITV2/3/4's HD versions aren't on all platforms, but on Sky have been swapped to the SD channel numbers and on Virgin, haven't.
Don't think Sky are allowed to do that, think they have to 'ensure' the right advert regions go to the right box
Which wouldn't be an issue if the SD and HD versions matched each other exactly.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see BBC Three HD and BBC Four HD do the channel swap on Sky.
because they are not "the Legacy Analogue channels"
on the other hand the SD channels as PSB ...!!!#But there then is a Platform Neutrality and universality issues... although the Trust and 600Mhz muxes has made that more applicable for the current/ future world.
Is it a case of "I've got a better TV than yours" or people just want to see high definition of peoples skin and a clearer version of grass on a football pitch?? It baffles me. I just like to watch a good story on the telly. :rolleyes:
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No, it's PSB rules that are stopping it.
101-105 are reserved for PSB channels. C4HD and C5HD are not PSB channels.
It's a major flop that the BBC is committed to making all it's channels HD by the start of next year.
Such a major flop that smaller broadcasters are investing in it
Such a major flop that Sky can still charge £5 for it
Such a major flop the Freeview/Freesat HD boxes
Regarding BluRay being a flop, it is estimated that by the end of the year, BluRay sales will outweigh DVD sales for the first time ever.
Major flop.
Most people say they can't tell the difference between SD and HD, S4C HD seems to have gone off the air.
I was in a big branch of Tesco and they had zero Blu-Ray discs but loads and loads of DVDs
A local massive branch of Asda had one small section of Blu-Ray discs and loads and loads of DVDs.
They need to have a look at the settings then.
When I first got HD, I was a bit unimpressed and was one of those who "couldn't tell the difference". But after doing a bit of research I found out about the BBC HD Testcard and was able to set up my TV properly; http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/12/a_christmas_present_from_the_h.html
I think a lot of people just turn the sharpness up high or go for the "vivid" preset to make everything look bright and colourful. Options like "noise reduction" and automatic enhancers are usually on by default too, which all serve to diminish the HD quality.
No that I am really bothered. SD looks fine and I am far more interested in good content than seeing ugly pimples on somebody's face,
I have an SD box where they swap places and the HD ones are high up, but they still show up there, all of them showing a message to call Sky to get these channels. One: I already have them on by HD box and Two: - You can't get them on SD boxes anyway so why do they even appear?
I am glad to be able to see the screen at all. Had my bus pass a couple of years now.
Can you get UTV HD via manual tuning?
Regardless of how good your vision may be isn't HD better than SD? If you can get HD, isn't that worthwhile as long as the cost isn't that much extra?