These days it seems anyone who is offended by any viewpoint can call it a 'hate crime' and the police will gladly launch a full investigation.
The police happily oblige when it comes to "easy" targets like this. For crimes that the public actually care about but are actually hard work for the police they are pretty useless.
What absolute crap. Expressing an opinion should NEVER be a criminal matter. No ifs or buts.
Define 'opinion' for me. If it is my opinion that your under-age daughter is very sexy and that I would like to do various things to her, am I to be allowed to go tell her that? I really think not.
Define 'opinion' for me. If it is my opinion that your under-age daughter is very sexy and that I would like to do various things to her, am I to be allowed to go tell her that? I really think not.
If i had a daughter and you did that, it wouldn't be the law you'd be worrying about. So i think its a moot point. Only a sackless wonder would involve the police in such a thing rather than deal with it themselves.
think they got it right ,his actions were grossly offensive to grieving family's of service men fighting for free speech / freedom.
no sympathy whatsoever .
I'd go a step further and send him to Afghanistan to live via parachute.
and that's my freedom of speech like it or not.
I personally don't give the tiniest shit about the views of the family of service personnel, they are not conscripted and are not doing their "duty" on ideological grounds.
The whole purpose of funding our military is to maintain OUR freedom. If we aren't free to express ourselves then we are clearly wasting our money.
I think we should have a mass day of protest against these cases. We could have a variety of "offensive tweets" so all political views could take part. They couldn't possibly prosecute everyone. Time to stand up to these little hitlers in the police and cps. Someone get Stephen fry to lead the charge.
If i had a daughter and you did that, it wouldn't be the law you'd be worrying about. So i think its a moot point. Only a sackless wonder would involve the police in such a thing rather than deal with it themselves.
Obviously it's a waste of time trying to argue with you then.
He has some valid points (in my opinion). I don't see where he has been racist or made any threats, unless there were more offensive messages, yes he goes too far but he just sounds angry and upset.
I'm guessing there was some kind of petitioning/pressuring of the police to make the arrest. I have seen worse things posted on a YouTube video about lipgloss....
How do the majority of people in this thread not see what he has said as wrong? He's saying that Soldiers who are out there fighting so that we can remain free and live in a civilised society should suffer Hell for all eternity. That is sick and twisted. Maybe he should go out there and see what dangers they have to deal with instead of sitting at home updating his Facebook status and being a general idiot in the process.
How do the majority of people in this thread not see what he has said as wrong? He's saying that Soldiers who are out there fighting so that we can remain free and live in a civilised society should suffer Hell for all eternity. That is sick and twisted. Maybe he should go out there and see what dangers they have to deal with instead of sitting at home updating his Facebook status and being a general idiot in the process.
There is a difference between wrong, and illegal. Adultery is wrong but not illegal. Some may say aborting unborn children is sick and twisted, but it also is not illegal.
How do the majority of people in this thread not see what he has said as wrong? He's saying that Soldiers who are out there fighting so that we can remain free and live in a civilised society should suffer Hell for all eternity. That is sick and twisted. Maybe he should go out there and see what dangers they have to deal with instead of sitting at home updating his Facebook status and being a general idiot in the process.
Even if it is wrong does it deserve prosecution and jail? It's just his angry opinion
Last time I looked getting angry was part and parcel of everyday life
It's the same as all the other prosecutions for what people have said on Twitter/Facebook or wherever, complete bollox.
And utterly wrong.
Though I do like the way the Guardian has linked the prosecution to being part of a sinister attempt to militerise everything so as to avoid comparisons with previous convictions.
Kind of typical.
How do the majority of people in this thread not see what he has said as wrong? He's saying that Soldiers who are out there fighting so that we can remain free and live in a civilised society should suffer Hell for all eternity. That is sick and twisted. Maybe he should go out there and see what dangers they have to deal with instead of sitting at home updating his Facebook status and being a general idiot in the process.
As others have said, I think we are all agreed what he said was unpleasant and offensive to many - but we defend his right to say it. When the government and police tells you what you can and can't say it will just lead to fascism.
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I hate idiots who think it is ok to justify or attempt to stifle the views of another. Lets see them nick me.
As for those who think its ok, they want shooting.
Think about what you've just wrote.
The police happily oblige when it comes to "easy" targets like this. For crimes that the public actually care about but are actually hard work for the police they are pretty useless.
Yes, it was what is commonly known as a joke!
I think he did, he said "let's see them nick me"
Define 'opinion' for me. If it is my opinion that your under-age daughter is very sexy and that I would like to do various things to her, am I to be allowed to go tell her that? I really think not.
Tell that to the jury mate.
Actually in certain cases it should be (if it incites racial hatred or violence).
If i had a daughter and you did that, it wouldn't be the law you'd be worrying about. So i think its a moot point. Only a sackless wonder would involve the police in such a thing rather than deal with it themselves.
Incitement to riot i'll give you but the rest is just balls.
People should remember "sticks and stones" and stop projecting their sensibilities onto the rest of us.
We are all different and have different tolerances, you cannot crminalise people just for a few soft shites. It isn't British or sensible!
no sympathy whatsoever .
I'd go a step further and send him to Afghanistan to live via parachute.
and that's my freedom of speech like it or not.
I personally don't give the tiniest shit about the views of the family of service personnel, they are not conscripted and are not doing their "duty" on ideological grounds.
The whole purpose of funding our military is to maintain OUR freedom. If we aren't free to express ourselves then we are clearly wasting our money.
Obviously it's a waste of time trying to argue with you then.
I'm guessing there was some kind of petitioning/pressuring of the police to make the arrest. I have seen worse things posted on a YouTube video about lipgloss....
Yes, censoring a right to express an opinion is unacceptable just are sexual advances towards a child!
There is a difference between wrong, and illegal. Adultery is wrong but not illegal. Some may say aborting unborn children is sick and twisted, but it also is not illegal.
Last time I looked getting angry was part and parcel of everyday life
Especially if its an occupational hazard of a paid mercenary.
I know it's wrong what he said but that's his opinion everyone's got one
And utterly wrong.
Though I do like the way the Guardian has linked the prosecution to being part of a sinister attempt to militerise everything so as to avoid comparisons with previous convictions.
Kind of typical.
As others have said, I think we are all agreed what he said was unpleasant and offensive to many - but we defend his right to say it. When the government and police tells you what you can and can't say it will just lead to fascism.