Cheryl thought she was going to die

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  • BellagioBellagio Posts: 3,249
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    Fringo wrote: »
    So she just thought it up herself? Interesting - wouldn't have thought she could have done that - maybe misunderstood?

    Indeed. My best guess is one of the following.

    1 - her publicity people have been feeding her this nonsense and being, frankly, none too bright, she's swallowed it hook, line & sinker.

    2 - she's misremembering/misunderstanding/exaggerating something that really was said to her about her condition, which seems more likely as what she's been saying about her illness has varied over time.
  • FringoFringo Posts: 7,995
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    Bellagio wrote: »
    Indeed. My best guess is one of the following.

    1 - her publicity people have been feeding her this nonsense and being, frankly, none too bright, she's swallowed it hook, line & sinker.

    2 - she's misremembering/misunderstanding/exaggerating something that really was said to her about her condition, which seems more likely as what she's been saying about her illness has varied over time.

    Yeah - mixture of all I would imagine.

    I do think she was seriously ill...and I mean seriously ill but what she can retain during that time will be very hazy - and then it's the mother and PR peeps filling in the rest.

    I saw a bit of her Piers Morgan interview but not much - did her doctor go on there? Was he a real doctor or some celeb desperado wanting attention and what did he actually say?

    I stress - I do think she had a serious case of malaria - and that she was very ill but entirely accept that in the relating of events that they could be rather skewed. To me that doesn't take away from the actual illness she actually felt at the time.

    If she really wanted to go for the money shot she'd have gone to town about Ashley - she didn't - she went on about something that only affected herself in the main - which is to her credit - though I'm sure you don't agree.
  • Huffy1968Huffy1968 Posts: 1,269
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    JohnHughes wrote: »
    Excellent post. Says everything I wanted to say, but much more eloquently. Thank you!

    You're welcome. :)
  • Jem19876Jem19876 Posts: 2,104
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    Fringo wrote: »
    So she just thought it up herself? Interesting - wouldn't have thought she could have done that - maybe misunderstood?
    Maybe the study of malaria from the Gambia isn't relevant because it's a different form. So many of the arm-chair malaria experts on here seem to constantly overlook that it has several strains and the symptoms and prognosis is different for each.

    One form of malaria is associated with fluid on the lungs and breathing problems, in which case reduced blood oxygen is inevitable. No oxygen is of course silly, but she probably just meant not enough and if anyone else said that people would get that, but because it's Cheryl it's a big lie/conspiracy.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,991
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    I think starvation was he problem not Malaria, i also noticed she has gained weight and now looks healthier.
  • BellagioBellagio Posts: 3,249
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    Jem19876 wrote: »
    Maybe the study of malaria from the Gambia isn't relevant because it's a different form.

    Nice try... the strain studied in The Gambia is the same as the strain she was reported as having. ;)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 440
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    Well I was nursing a lady just the other day with multi organ failure (heart, renal, liver) and we were able to chat. Not fabulously long and sparkling conversations, but more than just hello. I can see no reason at all to disbelieve the severity of Cheryl's illness just because she was able to talk to a nurse.

    As for her choice of words re the oxygen, well patients misunderstand, or misquote all the time. They grasp whatever they can understand from medical talk and go with it. Why should a pop star be expected to grasp medical info to the finest detail while she is gravely ill anyway!
  • guffybearguffybear Posts: 1,752
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    whiskydry wrote: »
    As for her choice of words re the oxygen, well patients misunderstand, or misquote all the time. They grasp whatever they can understand from medical talk and go with it. Why should a pop star be expected to grasp medical info to the finest detail while she is gravely ill anyway!



    personal agendas ?
  • muddipawsmuddipaws Posts: 3,300
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    Has it ocurred to those doubters that the launch of an album will have been discussed and planned months in advance. The divorce I am guessing was also not planned and knocked her sideways, and then to top it off and for those of you who probably wont believe it, she got Malaria which even the most cynical of you lot surely was not planned?

    Anyway, its a waste of time, actually trying to make sense of the rediculous posts trying to make something out of nothing in order to just post quite honestly horrible, cynical and vociferous posts for the sake of it.

    The posts simply give me the opinion she is not liked and even if she was genuinely at deaths door it still would not be enough, if she dropped dead then yes. Hope you lot sleep well at night :-)
  • janetcomelatelyjanetcomelately Posts: 7,405
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    I couldn't bear to watch the programme so turned off halfway through.

    Maybe she was really ill but my God why is she not happy she survived if that was the case. Compare this media manufactured person to some real people - the Chiilean miners for example who looked pretty happy to be saved after thinking they were going to die. Self pity is such an ugly trait and Ms Cole has it in spades.

    As for the Ashley thing - widely thought to be a marriage of convenience - him to cover his sexuality, her to lessen the bad press re the toilet attendant/racist acusations. Hardly going to be any real tears over that, especially since it worked for her and she is now more popular than ever.

    Pete Waterman had it right with his comment re publicity.

    She is a very pretty lady who has bought into the Simon Cowel sausage making factory. That's it.
  • TissyTissy Posts: 45,748
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    Bellagio wrote: »
    From the Guardian interview on Saturday URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2010/oct/23/cheryl-cole-interview-simon-hattenstone"]here[/URL:

    "Is it true she thought she was dying? "Yeah," she says quietly. "You want to know the details? I had no liver function, no kidney function, I was swollen with the fluid, I had no oxygen in my blood, I literally had 24 hours to get fluid out of my body, otherwise my insides were going to pack in. You know how sometimes you feel ill and say, 'I feel like I'm dying'? Well, I actually felt like I was dying. I asked the nurse outright – was I going to die? She said, 'There's a possibility.' "

    You were saying ?

    Gosh would a nurse really say that to a patient ?
  • BellagioBellagio Posts: 3,249
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    muddipaws wrote: »
    Has it ocurred to those doubters that the launch of an album will have been discussed and planned months in advance. The divorce I am guessing was also not planned and knocked her sideways, and then to top it off and for those of you who probably wont believe it, she got Malaria which even the most cynical of you lot surely was not planned?

    The album was barely mentioned, if at all (I didn't watch it - at my age I can't afford to waste time like that ;)) and the divorce has been dragging on for months... and no, unless she consented to go to Tanzania for the express purpose of contracting malaria, of course I don't believe it was planned. She's not that smart, for one thing.
    The posts simply give me the opinion she is not liked...

    Sibyl Fawlty, specialised subject - the bleedin' obvious. :D
    ...and even if she was genuinely at deaths door it still would not be enough, if she dropped dead then yes. Hope you lot sleep well at night :-)

    If she was genuinely at death's door then yes, I'd be sympathetic... but as her claims are patently ludicrous and she's equally patently milking it, and the divorce, for all it's worth, no, I'm not. The interview was planned months in advance as well, and I've little doubt that it was revised over the past few weeks (in the wake of the Gamu nonsense) as a damage limitation exercise. What was it about ? "Me malaria... me deevorce". I'm undecided as to whether her publicity people are seriously good (realising that her moment in the spotlight will soon pass so go for broke) or seriously stupid (allowing an interview with such silly statements to go out, not telling her to ease up on the 'poor wronged me' stance). Possibly a bit of both. What they've certainly not underestimated is the stupidity and gullibility of her core audience... but then we are talking 12-15 year old girls here.
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