I wonder if you had a smile on your face when Ashleigh bullied Christopher?
Perhaps you think she should be a doormat now, and allow herself to be bullied for the rest of her days, maybe if she does that for the next 40 years, publically, so those on here can feel her humiluation, she will be forgiven, but I doubt it.
The sheer level of venom being directed to Helen by some on here is as bad as or if not worse than you accuse her of.
I really hope none of you here are caught out making a mistake or doing any wrong, and if you do, lets hope those who caught you are far more forgiving than the Halo bearing judges on here.
This thread is about Helen, what is with the constant deflection... and for what it's worth I will always call out a bully, that's what she is, she still blames everyone else for her abysmal behaviour.
As for the rest of the hyperbole in your response, just what on earth are you talking about...the truth isn't pleasant and if you really, really think the 'venom' is as bad as Helen's you would be applauding them not berating otherwise that would be hypocritical.
Frankly the 'halo' bearers are those that deflect and try and find every excuse under the sun for her bullying rather than simply acknowledging that others find bullies like Helen nothing to celebrate and the farcical 'journey' a load of tosh......she doesn't need your sympathy and why would she or I think she should be a doormat?? she has made a load of money out of being aggressive and for bullying.........it's been rewarded and cheered...that's the way to go in the world, any one hurt in the process is irrelevant, collateral damage it seems....please desist with assuming what I think..........the best I can hope for is that she would never get her kicks out of treating others in such a spiteful, aggressive, abusive manner(all in the safety of her 'gang')...that is probably not going to happen seeing both she and her fans feel that others 'provoke' her to act in this manner, in fact she has been awarded £100k and a band of followers.
I wonder what Helens son will make of all this when he comes of an age to understand his mother was a a sex worker. How can you explain this to a child, let alone bullying. Remember she's the girl with Rooneys knob in her while Coleen was carrying his baby. Lovely mummy she is... Women like her put women right back a millennia. She's vile, in looks, lifestyle and manner. Awful that she now has 100k. Still she'll spend it, easy come easy go.
I wonder what Helens son will make of all this when he comes of an age to understand his mother was a a sex worker. How can you explain this to a child, let alone bullying. Remember she's the girl with Rooneys knob in her while Coleen was carrying his baby. Lovely mummy she is... Women like her put women right back a millennia. She's vile, in looks, lifestyle and manner. Awful that she now has 100k. Still she'll spend it, easy come easy go.
So not so much as lashing out but responding to;-) Helen has a right to reply to all these people who have been slating her imo, lets face it she has been torn to shreds and for someone as nasty and horrible as Denise Welch to start preaching about others .....well it takes the biscuit really.:o
Absolutely! How that woman can sit in judgment on anyone else beats me. She was horrible to Michael and tried to turn others against him, while getting hammered as often as possible. At least Helen said sorry and accepted that she isn't a nice person, and at least she has said she needs to change. Denise Welsh has done no such thing.
Absolutely! How that woman can sit in judgment on anyone else beats me. She was horrible to Michael and tried to turn others against him, while getting hammered as often as possible. At least Helen said sorry and accepted that she isn't a nice person, and at least she has said she needs to change. Denise Welsh has done no such thing.
we all sit in judgement of them, because THEY APPLIED for a SHOW, so they WILL be judged and SCRUTINISED. They weren't dragged screaming from their homes and taped to chairs and filmed. If you stand in front of me and say 'I AM' then that gives me the right as a viewer to question you. You put yourself in that position, and you find out something you need to know about yourself to live better, do better then you've done well. Do better, be better.
But be real about this, they asked for the SCRUTINY. If all they want is to sit in a VIP part of a club, or have someone recognise them on the street, they've failed in life. You have to be respected in life, respect will get you fed and housed and loved, notoriety won't.
Absolutely! How that woman can sit in judgment on anyone else beats me. She was horrible to Michael and tried to turn others against him, while getting hammered as often as possible. At least Helen said sorry and accepted that she isn't a nice person, and at least she has said she needs to change. Denise Welsh has done no such thing.
She tried her hardest to bully Michael Madsen and nearly drove him nuts, she would also have hit him if he hadn't caught her hand in time, she has no room to talk at all !
She tried her hardest to bully Michael Madsen and nearly drove him nuts, she would also have hit him if he hadn't caught her hand in time, she has no room to talk at all !
I agree. I forgot about her trying to hit him. I think it was because he didn't fancy her. She was horrible on CBB, showed herself up and has no self-awareness at all. I am glad she has been off our screens.
I wonder what Helens son will make of all this when he comes of an age to understand his mother was a a sex worker. How can you explain this to a child, let alone bullying. Remember she's the girl with Rooneys knob in her while Coleen was carrying his baby. Lovely mummy she is... Women like her put women right back a millennia. She's vile, in looks, lifestyle and manner. Awful that she now has 100k. Still she'll spend it, easy come easy go.
What I don't get why she "seems" to be on twitter so much since BB's been over. Surely there's better things to be doing with her son and other family and friends.
She tried her hardest to bully Michael Madsen and nearly drove him nuts, she would also have hit him if he hadn't caught her hand in time, she has no room to talk at all !
Exactly, although people do only see what they want to see when they're blinded by hatred.
What I don't get why she "seems" to be on twitter so much since BB's been over. Surely there's better things to be doing with her son and other family and friends.
She's defending herself.
The same though could be said for a lot of people on here, and they don't even have a defense for it as Helen does, they're just spilling bile about someone from a reality show they don't know.
Exactly, although people do only see what they want to see when they're blinded by hatred.
She's defending herself.
The same though could be said for a lot of people on here, and they don't even have a defense for it as Helen does, they're just spilling bile about someone from a reality show they don't know.
What exactly is her defense ?
And she went on BB which is a show where her behaviour will be judged. What's your point exactly
What exactly is her defense ?
And she went on BB which is a show where her behaviour will be judged. What's your point exactly
As I have said in a previous post, do you expect her to just be a sitting target now for the bullies on the internet?
It's not up to me to decide what her defense is, but even a murderer is entitled to defend themselves whether you like it or not, it's called living in a 'civil society'.
Although that's rapidly becoming a thing of the past.
Good for Helen ,Denise Welch is in no position to sit in Judgement on anyone ,after her Behaviour on CBB ,and all the affairs whilst married and Violence whilst drunk according to her she used to bestow on her Ex-Husband -Vile woman
As I have said in a previous post, do you expect her to just be a sitting target now for the bullies on the internet?
It's not up to me to decide what her defense is, but even a murderer is entitled to defend themselves whether you like it or not, it's called living in a 'civil society'.
Although that's rapidly becoming a thing of the past.
Well you don't know Helen (not that I am aware of) and you seem to be defending her here:D
BIB. I think you will find , your analogy of Helen Wood shouting back at another zeleb on twitter etc, is hardly comparable to a murderer defending themselves, which I think you will find, a barrister does for them.;-)
Moreover, Helen, to me at least, is a law unto herself. It's her way or the highway. She doesn't seem to adhere to what I would perceive as good, decent behaviour when interacting with other people, especially those that she deems inferior or not to her taste, her behaviour borders on irrational and she is shockingly aggressive.
I should point out, I could care less what way she conducts herself outside the house now, what I found reprehensible was her aggressive, foul behaviour in the house. Her nasty responses on twitter just proves my point.
Denise is one of my worst HM's ever, along with Helen.
IMO they were both awful HM's, Denise was very nearly a sex pest and she made my Favourite HM Michael's time in the house very uncomfortable but I do not think she bullied him.He would not say that he was bullied.He was well able to handle her.
Denise has admitted mental health issues. Helen has admitted she likes to be nasty. "I like doing nasty things instead , I would rather, I’ would rather do shit , I would rather do random shit to them."
Helen I do think was a bully and BB seems to agree with me having the question .
Well you don't know Helen (not that I am aware of) and you seem to be defending her here
BIB. I think you will find , your analogy of Helen Wood shouting back at another zeleb on twitter etc, is hardly comparable to a murderer defending themselves, which I think you will find, a barrister does for them.;-)
Moreover, Helen, to me at least, is a law unto herself. It's her way or the highway. She doesn't seem to adhere to what I would perceive as good, decent behaviour when interacting with other people, especially those that she deems inferior or not to her taste, her behaviour borders on irrational and she is shockingly aggressive.
I should point out, I could care less what way she conducts herself outside the house now, what I found reprehensible was her aggressive, foul behaviour in the house. Her nasty responses on twitter just proves my point.
Nor do those on here know her whom are shredding her to pieces as if she has committed a murder.
Every single person in this country, no matter what the crime or wrongdoing, is entitled to defend themselves, whether it be personally, or through a legal representative, so those on here and on twitter (which I suspect many are from here) should be thankful she is doing it herself, and not using a legal representative to sue their equally nasty backsides off for harassment and slander.
And you said it yourself "her nasty responses", I'll ask you again, should she sit and take it, or respond in order to defend herself? Would you like to see her attacked to the point of depression, wreckless behaviour or suicide?
I have never once defended Helens behaviour in the beginning, but I will defend her possible reasons for her personality, and I'll also defend how she tried to change.
I wonder what Helens son will make of all this when he comes of an age to understand his mother was a a sex worker. How can you explain this to a child, let alone bullying. Remember she's the girl with Rooneys knob in her while Coleen was carrying his baby. Lovely mummy she is... Women like her put women right back a millennia. She's vile, in looks, lifestyle and manner. Awful that she now has 100k. Still she'll spend it, easy come easy go.
I hear all you are saying money or no money you can't by respect and that is something helenwill find hard in life
Nor do those on here know her whom are shredding her to pieces as if she has committed a murder.
Every single person in this country, no matter what the crime or wrongdoing, is entitled to defend themselves, whether it be personally, or through a legal representative, so those on here and on twitter (which I suspect many are from here) should be thankful she is doing it herself, and not using a legal representative to sue their equally nasty backsides off for harassment and slander.
And you said it yourself "her nasty responses", I'll ask you again, should she sit and take it, or respond in order to defend herself? Would you like to see her attacked to the point of depression, wreckless behaviour or suicide?
I have never once defended Helens behaviour in the beginning, but I will defend her possible reasons for her personality, and I'll also defend how she tried to change.
Great response Drylce and thanks, you make a very sound and robust defense of Helen, however, and I mean this sincerely, to say if she doesn't defend herself she risks depression, wreckless behaviour of suicide, is a tad OTT don't you think.;-)
Helen Wood is as hard as nails imo, (of course;-)), and by going on BB she and every other "contestant" left themselves wide open for judgement and debate. She knew it, so let her bask in her victory and winnings and take the justified critisim on the chin.
Helen doesn't give a "sh1t"..what the b*stard public think of her. ...perhaps you and I should remember that:p
Nor do those on here know her whom are shredding her to pieces as if she has committed a murder.
Every single person in this country, no matter what the crime or wrongdoing, is entitled to defend themselves, whether it be personally, or through a legal representative, so those on here and on twitter (which I suspect many are from here) should be thankful she is doing it herself, and not using a legal representative to sue their equally nasty backsides off for harassment and slander.
And you said it yourself "her nasty responses", I'll ask you again, should she sit and take it, or respond in order to defend herself? Would you like to see her attacked to the point of depression, wreckless behaviour or suicide?
I have never once defended Helens behaviour in the beginning, but I will defend her possible reasons for her personality, and I'll also defend how she tried to change.
A lot of use have been fans of bb for many years of cause we do no like the idea of someone that has bullied her way through bb to win it's not rocket science
Great response Drylce and thanks, you make a very sound and robust defense of Helen, however, and I mean this sincerely, to say if she doesn't defend herself she risks depression, wreckless behaviour of suicide, is a tad OTT don't you think.;-)
Helen Wood is as hard as nails imo, (of course;-)), and by going on BB she and every other "contestant" left themselves wide open for judgement and debate. She knew it, so let her bask in her victory and winnings and take the justified critisim on the chin.
Helen doesn't give a "sh1t"..what the b*stard public think of her. ...perhaps you and I should remember that:p
I actually don't think it's OTT, she may say she doesn't care, but if she didn't care why did she genuinely show emotion when she realised how badly she had come across?
Most people who say they don't care, do really, it's a defense mechanism that people use every day of the week, a bit like the bullying child who says they don't care of the other children hate them, they do really.
I've known a couple of people like Helen over the years, and have even been at the receiving end at times.
They're some of the most frightened, vulnerable people beneath the charade, and have quite low self esteem, which is why they think a job such as an escort isn't beneath them.
Every day is a struggle for them, fighting to keep up the persona that they're as hard as nails and don't care, don't hurt, and don't feel.
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This thread is about Helen, what is with the constant deflection... and for what it's worth I will always call out a bully, that's what she is, she still blames everyone else for her abysmal behaviour.
As for the rest of the hyperbole in your response, just what on earth are you talking about...the truth isn't pleasant and if you really, really think the 'venom' is as bad as Helen's you would be applauding them not berating otherwise that would be hypocritical.
Frankly the 'halo' bearers are those that deflect and try and find every excuse under the sun for her bullying rather than simply acknowledging that others find bullies like Helen nothing to celebrate and the farcical 'journey' a load of tosh......she doesn't need your sympathy and why would she or I think she should be a doormat?? she has made a load of money out of being aggressive and for bullying.........it's been rewarded and cheered...that's the way to go in the world, any one hurt in the process is irrelevant, collateral damage it seems....please desist with assuming what I think..........the best I can hope for is that she would never get her kicks out of treating others in such a spiteful, aggressive, abusive manner(all in the safety of her 'gang')...that is probably not going to happen seeing both she and her fans feel that others 'provoke' her to act in this manner, in fact she has been awarded £100k and a band of followers.
ANYONE WHO VERBALLY OR PHYSICALLY ABUSES ANOTHER PERSON WHETHER ADULT OR CHILD IS DESPICABLE.
Well said!
Absolutely! How that woman can sit in judgment on anyone else beats me. She was horrible to Michael and tried to turn others against him, while getting hammered as often as possible. At least Helen said sorry and accepted that she isn't a nice person, and at least she has said she needs to change. Denise Welsh has done no such thing.
we all sit in judgement of them, because THEY APPLIED for a SHOW, so they WILL be judged and SCRUTINISED. They weren't dragged screaming from their homes and taped to chairs and filmed. If you stand in front of me and say 'I AM' then that gives me the right as a viewer to question you. You put yourself in that position, and you find out something you need to know about yourself to live better, do better then you've done well. Do better, be better.
But be real about this, they asked for the SCRUTINY. If all they want is to sit in a VIP part of a club, or have someone recognise them on the street, they've failed in life. You have to be respected in life, respect will get you fed and housed and loved, notoriety won't.
She tried her hardest to bully Michael Madsen and nearly drove him nuts, she would also have hit him if he hadn't caught her hand in time, she has no room to talk at all !
I agree. I forgot about her trying to hit him. I think it was because he didn't fancy her. She was horrible on CBB, showed herself up and has no self-awareness at all. I am glad she has been off our screens.
Is there any need to shout?
You mean 'well shouted'?
Exactly, although people do only see what they want to see when they're blinded by hatred.
She's defending herself.
The same though could be said for a lot of people on here, and they don't even have a defense for it as Helen does, they're just spilling bile about someone from a reality show they don't know.
What exactly is her defense ?
And she went on BB which is a show where her behaviour will be judged. What's your point exactly
As I have said in a previous post, do you expect her to just be a sitting target now for the bullies on the internet?
It's not up to me to decide what her defense is, but even a murderer is entitled to defend themselves whether you like it or not, it's called living in a 'civil society'.
Although that's rapidly becoming a thing of the past.
Well you don't know Helen (not that I am aware of) and you seem to be defending her here:D
BIB. I think you will find , your analogy of Helen Wood shouting back at another zeleb on twitter etc, is hardly comparable to a murderer defending themselves, which I think you will find, a barrister does for them.;-)
Moreover, Helen, to me at least, is a law unto herself. It's her way or the highway. She doesn't seem to adhere to what I would perceive as good, decent behaviour when interacting with other people, especially those that she deems inferior or not to her taste, her behaviour borders on irrational and she is shockingly aggressive.
I should point out, I could care less what way she conducts herself outside the house now, what I found reprehensible was her aggressive, foul behaviour in the house. Her nasty responses on twitter just proves my point.
IMO they were both awful HM's, Denise was very nearly a sex pest and she made my Favourite HM Michael's time in the house very uncomfortable but I do not think she bullied him.He would not say that he was bullied.He was well able to handle her.
Denise has admitted mental health issues. Helen has admitted she likes to be nasty. "I like doing nasty things instead , I would rather, I’ would rather do shit , I would rather do random shit to them."
Helen I do think was a bully and BB seems to agree with me having the question .
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The fact that "The bullying between Helen and Ashleigh was addictive viewing" is one of the options on what you enjoyed about the series.
Denise was paid on BBOTS to give her opinion on the HM's and has been a guest on there a few times, and is a avid viewer of the show.
She is fully entitled to express her opinion and tweet about it if she wishes and Helen is fully entitled to respond.
Nor do those on here know her whom are shredding her to pieces as if she has committed a murder.
Every single person in this country, no matter what the crime or wrongdoing, is entitled to defend themselves, whether it be personally, or through a legal representative, so those on here and on twitter (which I suspect many are from here) should be thankful she is doing it herself, and not using a legal representative to sue their equally nasty backsides off for harassment and slander.
And you said it yourself "her nasty responses", I'll ask you again, should she sit and take it, or respond in order to defend herself? Would you like to see her attacked to the point of depression, wreckless behaviour or suicide?
I have never once defended Helens behaviour in the beginning, but I will defend her possible reasons for her personality, and I'll also defend how she tried to change.
I hear all you are saying money or no money you can't by respect and that is something helenwill find hard in life
Great response Drylce and thanks, you make a very sound and robust defense of Helen, however, and I mean this sincerely, to say if she doesn't defend herself she risks depression, wreckless behaviour of suicide, is a tad OTT don't you think.;-)
Helen Wood is as hard as nails imo, (of course;-)), and by going on BB she and every other "contestant" left themselves wide open for judgement and debate. She knew it, so let her bask in her victory and winnings and take the justified critisim on the chin.
Helen doesn't give a "sh1t"..what the b*stard public think of her. ...perhaps you and I should remember that:p
A lot of use have been fans of bb for many years of cause we do no like the idea of someone that has bullied her way through bb to win it's not rocket science
I actually don't think it's OTT, she may say she doesn't care, but if she didn't care why did she genuinely show emotion when she realised how badly she had come across?
Most people who say they don't care, do really, it's a defense mechanism that people use every day of the week, a bit like the bullying child who says they don't care of the other children hate them, they do really.
I've known a couple of people like Helen over the years, and have even been at the receiving end at times.
They're some of the most frightened, vulnerable people beneath the charade, and have quite low self esteem, which is why they think a job such as an escort isn't beneath them.
Every day is a struggle for them, fighting to keep up the persona that they're as hard as nails and don't care, don't hurt, and don't feel.