That because the rockets didn't kill anyone the peace talks should carry on when Hamas are running around screaming to the world (but noone appears to be listening) that they will continue to fight Israel, any truce will never be permanent and will only be used to resupply so they can continue the war and that "If Netanyahu doesn't understand political dialogue in Cairo they know all too well how to make him understand"
Why were the airport and beach front targeted then?
Any proof of these rockets in Israeli air space or craters in the ground in Israel? Debris in Israel?
Why blame Hamas, as others have said, there are many hostile to Israel for the way they are treated. Hamas being blamed seems like a convenient excuse, unless you think the Tory party are responsible for every crime committed in the UK?
Why were the airport and beach front targeted then?
Any proof of these rockets in Israeli air space or craters in the ground in Israel? Debris in Israel?
Why blame Hamas, as others have said, there are many hostile to Israel for the way they are treated. Hamas being blamed seems like a convenient excuse, unless you think the Tory party are responsible for every crime committed in the UK?
So the quote from Fawzi Barhoum meant they were going to send flowers?
Yup, so demonstrates that if either ever became a threat, Israel is quite capable of eliminating them. So not much of a security risk really. Hopefully the ICC will look closely at the targets selected in these revenge attacks though.
After the Arabs failed attempt at genocide in 1947 then again in 1967 Israel has been on the receiving end revenge attacks for 67 years.
There was 1000 Israeli people killed over 6 years due to suicide bombings and other acts of terrorism, but we'll sweep it under the rug because Israel shouldn't be allowed to defending itself from Islamic extremism.
Pretty sure the guy's a fake, or at least maintains a very low profile for a supposed exec of a Fortune 500 company capable of attracting 600 CEO's from large companies. Plus Glasgow doesn't seem to know anything about what would be a rather major business event.
ps.. other versions of the story say it was an event for 600 sales people, and sent from a hotmail account. But seems to have been picked up by a lot of news channels and bloggers.
I did read another link yesterday, and thought it sounded a bit dodgy.
Lazy, sensationalistic sods don't bother to check facts simply because it's topical and controversial.
Dear'ol Bibi acting as judge, jury and his favorite part, executioner. Again. All remarkably convenient. 3 rockets fired which hit nothing. No evidence Hamas was responsible, but bombs away, again
Netanyahu is doing the job the people of Israel elected him to do, primarily to keep them safe from terrorist scum like Hamas who shoot their own people in the legs to stop them evacuating houses.
No evidence Hamas was responsible? How about at least 5 other ceasefires violated by Hamas
Hamas is in control of Gaza but if they can't control who is firing rockets (if it wasn't Hamas) and wont agree to disarm or for restrictions on what goes in and out of Gaza how can you blame Israel
Easy. Israel is the one dropping the big bombs. The rest is a simple matter of law or justice. Israel didn't bother to check who fired the rockets, just (very quickly) started bombing. Expecting Hamas to be able to stop all rocket launches after killing Hamas police and leadership is much like us killing all our police officers and then complaining crime rates are up.
IDF @IDFSpokesperson
In response to today's rocket fire, we have begun striking terror targets in the Gaza Strip.
Someone must have reported an unexploded chicken, unbroken egg, undamaged apartment. It's amazing how small things terrify the Israelis..
After the Arabs failed attempt at genocide in 1947 then again in 1967 Israel has been on the receiving end revenge attacks for 67 years.
There was no attempt at genocide, just attempts to resolve illegal land grabs. Which are still unresolved.
There was 1000 Israeli people killed over 6 years due to suicide bombings and other acts of terrorism, but we'll sweep it under the rug because Israel shouldn't be allowed to defending itself from Islamic extremism.
We had a lot of people killed during the troubles in NI. That got resolved via dialogue, not saturation bombardment of Catholic and Protestant housing estates. Israel is not defending itself from extremism, it's helping recruit extremists.
Easy. Israel is the one dropping the big bombs. The rest is a simple matter of law or justice. Israel didn't bother to check who fired the rockets, just (very quickly) started bombing. Expecting Hamas to be able to stop all rocket launches after killing Hamas police and leadership is much like us killing all our police officers and then complaining crime rates are up.
Why do they need to check to find out if it is Hamas or IJ? they've been busy blowing up both of them.
If Hamas is incapable of keeping peace then any negotiations with them are pointless.
If Hamas is incapable of keeping peace then any negotiations with them are pointless.
How exactly are they meant to 'keep the peace' when Israel is intent on killing them and much of Gaza's infrastructure is destroyed. Next you'll be blaming Hamas for failing to prevent cholera after their water/sewage infrastructure has been destroyed and most of the hospitals damaged or already overloaded..
How exactly are they meant to 'keep the peace' when Israel is intent on killing them and much of Gaza's infrastructure is destroyed. Next you'll be blaming Hamas for failing to prevent cholera after their water/sewage infrastructure has been destroyed and most of the hospitals damaged or already overloaded..
So let Hamas and its allies fire rockets with impunity because... otherwise they will continue to fire rockets?
Hamas because people like you blame Israel every time they do it.
3 rockets were fired, apparently causing no damage. For some reason, they didn't even trip Red Color warnings but did trigger an unusually swift response against targets other than the launch sites it seems.
Israel could easily have ignored the rockets, or warned Hamas... but no. Bibi's instantly back to warmonger mode.
Time and time again when Israel is given the chance between peace and violence, it chooses violence.
There was no attempt at genocide, just attempts to resolve illegal land grabs. Which are still unresolved.
We had a lot of people killed during the troubles in NI. That got resolved via dialogue, not saturation bombardment of Catholic and Protestant housing estates. Israel is not defending itself from extremism, it's helping recruit extremists.
Comparing NI to the Arab/Israeli conflict is another straw man argument.
Hamas and it's parent company Muslim Brotherhood have been disowned by Egypt, Iran and Saudi because they all the threat it poses to their countries.
Israel isn't needed to recruit extremists because some Islamists want Islam to rule the world and would like to the United Kingdom as part of a global Caliphate. If it wasn't Israel it would be other cause in the quest for world domination.
"Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”
Words of inspiration from Qur'an to Hamas etc. It doesn't say when to stop.
So the quote from Fawzi Barhoum meant they were going to send flowers?
Exploding flowers.;-)
Local residents in Gaza said they saw militants attempt to fire rockets, and afterwards Israelis living near northern Gaza and the Be'er Sheva region said they heard a number of blasts.
Time and time again when Israel is given the chance between peace and violence, it chooses violence.
Are you seriously saying this?
If Israel has to ignore consistent rocket attacks whilst negotiating for peace then how can they choose between violence and peace if they are being bombed regardless?
It is a choice between giving into terrorist demands whilst being bombed or not negotiating and being bombed.
3 rockets were fired, apparently causing no damage. For some reason, they didn't even trip Red Color warnings but did trigger an unusually swift response against targets other than the launch sites it seems.
Israel could easily have ignored the rockets, or warned Hamas... but no. Bibi's instantly back to warmonger mode.
Time and time again when Israel is given the chance between peace and violence, it chooses violence.
In fact, given the targets and the speed with which they were hit, one could be forgiven for thinking it was pre-planned...
3 rockets were fired, apparently causing no damage. For some reason, they didn't even trip Red Color warnings but did trigger an unusually swift response against targets other than the launch sites it seems.
Israel could easily have ignored the rockets, or warned Hamas... but no. Bibi's instantly back to warmonger mode.
Time and time again when Israel is given the chance between peace and violence, it chooses violence.
Comparing NI to the Arab/Israeli conflict is another straw man argument.
Hamas and it's parent company Muslim Brotherhood have been disowned by Egypt, Iran and Saudi because they all the threat it poses to their countries.
Israel isn't needed to recruit extremists because some Islamists want Islam to rule the world and would like to the United Kingdom as part of a global Caliphate. If it wasn't Israel it would be other cause in the quest for world domination.
"Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”
Words of inspiration from Qur'an to Hamas etc. It doesn't say when to stop.
Why have you got such a problem with Islam?
It can't be because of extremists because you fiercely defend, and vociferously support, the extremist Jews (Zionists).
It is a choice between giving into terrorist demands whilst being bombed or not negotiating and being bombed.
So we've had Cast Lead, Pillar of Freedom and currently Protective Edge. For whatever reason things kick off, rockets fly, a chunk of Gaza gets flattened, there are usually 1,000+ fatalities (on the Palestinian side) and then it goes quiet.
Again it's back to the definition of insanity, repeating the same and expecting a different outcome. Hamas' is asking for some fairly simple things. A port and peace. Israel prefers to maintain the prison and seems shocked.. shocked I tell you! that the prisoners are still revolting.
Then again, you probably deny Israel is the occupying force in Gaza. But if it isn't, and Gaza is independent, why is Israel blockading it and refusing to allow it to build a port?
In this particular incident, Israel. April 23rd and the unity plan. Check the rockets for May.
Then the 2 Palestinian kids shot in the West Bank, the 3 Israeli kids kidnapped and killed, the rallying cries from Bibi and pals for revenge.. And then Israel bombed Gaza. Then you get your 3,500 rockets.
It's almost as if Israel is determined to punish Hamas, regardless of who is really responsible.
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Why were the airport and beach front targeted then?
Any proof of these rockets in Israeli air space or craters in the ground in Israel? Debris in Israel?
Why blame Hamas, as others have said, there are many hostile to Israel for the way they are treated. Hamas being blamed seems like a convenient excuse, unless you think the Tory party are responsible for every crime committed in the UK?
So the quote from Fawzi Barhoum meant they were going to send flowers?
After the Arabs failed attempt at genocide in 1947 then again in 1967 Israel has been on the receiving end revenge attacks for 67 years.
There was 1000 Israeli people killed over 6 years due to suicide bombings and other acts of terrorism, but we'll sweep it under the rug because Israel shouldn't be allowed to defending itself from Islamic extremism.
I did read another link yesterday, and thought it sounded a bit dodgy.
Lazy, sensationalistic sods don't bother to check facts simply because it's topical and controversial.
Netanyahu is doing the job the people of Israel elected him to do, primarily to keep them safe from terrorist scum like Hamas who shoot their own people in the legs to stop them evacuating houses.
No evidence Hamas was responsible? How about at least 5 other ceasefires violated by Hamas
Easy. Israel is the one dropping the big bombs. The rest is a simple matter of law or justice. Israel didn't bother to check who fired the rockets, just (very quickly) started bombing. Expecting Hamas to be able to stop all rocket launches after killing Hamas police and leadership is much like us killing all our police officers and then complaining crime rates are up.
IDF
@IDFSpokesperson
In response to today's rocket fire, we have begun striking terror targets in the Gaza Strip.
Someone must have reported an unexploded chicken, unbroken egg, undamaged apartment. It's amazing how small things terrify the Israelis..
There was no attempt at genocide, just attempts to resolve illegal land grabs. Which are still unresolved.
We had a lot of people killed during the troubles in NI. That got resolved via dialogue, not saturation bombardment of Catholic and Protestant housing estates. Israel is not defending itself from extremism, it's helping recruit extremists.
Again.. How many armed factions are there in Gaza? How many would like to replace Hamas.. Would you like them replaced with say, IS?
Why do they need to check to find out if it is Hamas or IJ? they've been busy blowing up both of them.
If Hamas is incapable of keeping peace then any negotiations with them are pointless.
How exactly are they meant to 'keep the peace' when Israel is intent on killing them and much of Gaza's infrastructure is destroyed. Next you'll be blaming Hamas for failing to prevent cholera after their water/sewage infrastructure has been destroyed and most of the hospitals damaged or already overloaded..
So let Hamas and its allies fire rockets with impunity because... otherwise they will continue to fire rockets?
Analogy shamelessly stolen from ARRSE-
So I someone throws a beer can over my fence, I can just run out in the street with a baseball bat and **** the first person I see?
Peace talks were kinda getting somewhere, another 24hr extension almost agreed and then someone goes and lobs 3 rockets over the fence.
Who benefits?
Hamas because people like you blame Israel every time they do it.
Oh and they aren't cans of beer - they are 20lb fertiliser bombs, 3500 of them.
3 rockets were fired, apparently causing no damage. For some reason, they didn't even trip Red Color warnings but did trigger an unusually swift response against targets other than the launch sites it seems.
Israel could easily have ignored the rockets, or warned Hamas... but no. Bibi's instantly back to warmonger mode.
Time and time again when Israel is given the chance between peace and violence, it chooses violence.
Comparing NI to the Arab/Israeli conflict is another straw man argument.
Hamas and it's parent company Muslim Brotherhood have been disowned by Egypt, Iran and Saudi because they all the threat it poses to their countries.
Israel isn't needed to recruit extremists because some Islamists want Islam to rule the world and would like to the United Kingdom as part of a global Caliphate. If it wasn't Israel it would be other cause in the quest for world domination.
"Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”
Words of inspiration from Qur'an to Hamas etc. It doesn't say when to stop.
Those 3500 rockets have done.. what damage exactly? Compared to the 14.5m rounds of ammo, 80,000 shells, 5,000 airstrikes..
Exploding flowers.;-)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4560337,00.html
Any evidence of them in Israeli airspace or territory? Any pics of the damage they did and the debris from them? Craters in the ground in Israel?
Where do you get the information from that they were '20lb fertiliser bombs'?
Are you seriously saying this?
If Israel has to ignore consistent rocket attacks whilst negotiating for peace then how can they choose between violence and peace if they are being bombed regardless?
It is a choice between giving into terrorist demands whilst being bombed or not negotiating and being bombed.
There is no peace for them to choose.
In fact, given the targets and the speed with which they were hit, one could be forgiven for thinking it was pre-planned...
Who fired the rockets first?
Stop firing rockets and Israel won't fire back.
Why have you got such a problem with Islam?
It can't be because of extremists because you fiercely defend, and vociferously support, the extremist Jews (Zionists).
Obviously..
So we've had Cast Lead, Pillar of Freedom and currently Protective Edge. For whatever reason things kick off, rockets fly, a chunk of Gaza gets flattened, there are usually 1,000+ fatalities (on the Palestinian side) and then it goes quiet.
Again it's back to the definition of insanity, repeating the same and expecting a different outcome. Hamas' is asking for some fairly simple things. A port and peace. Israel prefers to maintain the prison and seems shocked.. shocked I tell you! that the prisoners are still revolting.
Then again, you probably deny Israel is the occupying force in Gaza. But if it isn't, and Gaza is independent, why is Israel blockading it and refusing to allow it to build a port?
In this particular incident, Israel. April 23rd and the unity plan. Check the rockets for May.
Then the 2 Palestinian kids shot in the West Bank, the 3 Israeli kids kidnapped and killed, the rallying cries from Bibi and pals for revenge.. And then Israel bombed Gaza. Then you get your 3,500 rockets.
It's almost as if Israel is determined to punish Hamas, regardless of who is really responsible.