Options
Poll: How should the UK react to the proposed new EU treaty
The options are:
* Sign it unconditionally. Look, these are desperate times. World leaders need to act together and act quickly. If we start arguing over who has what powers or get too coy over giving the Franco-Germans too much control, we will end up the worse for it. Besides, we could always leave later if the treaty turned out to be too bad.
* Have no part of it. Don't you just know that this treaty is going to create a two speed Europe. The Eurozone countries, and in particular Germany and France, will be telling the UK what to do from here to eternity and we will effectively lose all semblance of independence.
* The country needs a referendum. We can't leave this to Cameron and Clegg. We need to debate the terms and discuss the implications and the public should then vote on it. They denied us the vote when they drew up the EU charter but this is an earth shaking change and they shouldn't make that mistake again.
* I need more time to think about this. Specifically, I want to know what's being proposed, I want to read the small print. Once we know the details, let's decide what to do then, and only then.
* Treaty? Whaddya talkin' about? Get a life. It's the X Factor final this weekend dontcha know!
* Sign it unconditionally. Look, these are desperate times. World leaders need to act together and act quickly. If we start arguing over who has what powers or get too coy over giving the Franco-Germans too much control, we will end up the worse for it. Besides, we could always leave later if the treaty turned out to be too bad.
* Have no part of it. Don't you just know that this treaty is going to create a two speed Europe. The Eurozone countries, and in particular Germany and France, will be telling the UK what to do from here to eternity and we will effectively lose all semblance of independence.
* The country needs a referendum. We can't leave this to Cameron and Clegg. We need to debate the terms and discuss the implications and the public should then vote on it. They denied us the vote when they drew up the EU charter but this is an earth shaking change and they shouldn't make that mistake again.
* I need more time to think about this. Specifically, I want to know what's being proposed, I want to read the small print. Once we know the details, let's decide what to do then, and only then.
* Treaty? Whaddya talkin' about? Get a life. It's the X Factor final this weekend dontcha know!
What should UK do about the new EU treaty? 93 votes
Sign it unconditionally
12%
12 votes
Should definitely not sign it
7%
7 votes
There should be a public referendum
38%
36 votes
Not sure yet - need to see the detail
40%
38 votes
I'm really not bothered you know
0%
0 votes
0
Comments
What's this treaty about? Why do we keep needing treaties with Europe?
It will be amusing to hear the coalitions excuses as to why we can't have a referendum. An of course Labour demanding one.
I suspect any new treaty may only be applicable to the Eurozone so they can avoid Britain making things difficult. In which case, we don't need to do anything.
The last government we're just as guilty as well. Bloody mess they left behind.
The countries adopting the Euro need to start getting their budgets more integrated. We aren't in it
I would prefer Cameron and Clegg than send two random members of the public to Brussels to negotiate.
There's much better candidates than those, either individually or as a dynamic duo.
I put it to you that the reverse would actually be true.
It's already started. Mr Cameron could not attend this meeting.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16070611
It's all very exciting though. My personal view is to show up with a list of demands that will distance us from the EU and means we won't be coughing up more money. Then possibly sign
Well it seemed pretty obvious at the time (well to me anyway) but "glorious leaders who know it all" knew better
I think that if fiscal union is achieved it would actually be a damn good time for us to join the Euro. I don't think we could afford to remain outside it.
(*)In fact the two biggest in the EU at the moment although France isn't that far ahead of us.
You forgot the option "Toilet Paper".
We wont even see the Treaty until March 2012. So I'll make my mind up then.
Once our economy and that of the Eurozone is relatively stable we can decide our future in Europe, whether that's in the Euro, out of the EU, just a member of the common market or the status quo for me now isn't really the time to make that decision, the heat from the fires under the Euro are too great.
Sorry but screw them, if there is spare funds then lets use them to ensure our economy,citizens benefit. Why should we be taxed to the hilt,work longer so foreign nations can get themselves out of a hole.
I was until recently pro europe, now i say screw them.
If any PM signs away the UK's right to determine fiscal matters to an unelected bunch of foreigners whose sole interest is ensure the continued welfare and prosperity of Germany then they should be forced from office and hung.
We cannot interfere in the fiscal policies of Germany/France ect and they and the EU cannot be allowed to have a say in how the UK government formats and presents UK fiscal matters.
Hang on there! I'm not advocating giving them more money, we've got enough problems of our own. But we don't want to give them another sore to itch as it'll only end up diseased, rotten and eventually fall off.
Ah i misunderstood that bit,:o
Anyway i feel Ireland will be europe's latest sore not us as it is likely they will put any changes to a referendum. Things were better before all this integration nonsense and the best way to determine the UK's future with Europe is to have a referendum on the relationship and if we stay in how far we allow them to have a say in domestic matters.
At the time of the last referendum which was about entry into the EEC i was too young to be able to have my say so its now acceptable for there to be a new referendum about the UK's membership of the EU.
If its unfair to tie a future UK government to policies enacted by a previous administration then it is unacceptable to bind my generation and those that will come after us to a decision made in the seventies. Scotland will have a referendum about independence which i shall cast my vote but as a unionist angered with Labour and its time in government it is not a forgone conclusion i will vote to stay in the union.
Therefore by enacting the same rational its time that the UK better still all member nations of the EU allowed their electorate to decide if they want stronger ties with the EU, looser ties or a full break from the EU. Membership of the EU cannot be a permanent unending commitment , better to allow a referendum on the subject every 15 yrs that will give the administrations that are elected during those 15 year blocks a mandate to participate in EU and its institutions.
Technopratts continue to call the shots while the european electorate are increasingly marginalised by an elitists few have heard of a care not a jot for as they continue to empire build at the expense of democracy.
You may have summed up the entire euro debate.
Some see the EU has organisation in which the UK can participate and contribute.
Others see the EU as a 'bunch of foreigners'.
The UK would not be the only country to have one, there would have to be one in the Netherlands and one in Ireland by law, and if it affected the German constitution, they would have to have one too.
It's for this reason we are very likely to get fudge rather than a treaty as Germany and France absolutely do NOT want any of this put to the people in any EU country. There isn't popular support for most of the proposed changes in ANY country.