He had the money to put right whatever was wrong. Most people don't have that option.
Dear god do you actually believe that? Money can't buy your way out of everything. If that were the case then I'm sure Steve Jobs and Christopher Reeve would still be here and Michael Schumacher would be fighting fit again.
Robin Williams was mentally ill. All the money in the world couldn't 'cure' that. Yes he would've had access to better resources but ultimately he was just too ill and beyond help.
People like you are why there is still such a huge stigma surrounding mental illness.
thanks , but the feeling is mutual
i can understand mental illness is a bad thing , and can have severe effects .
but what i cant understand how its deemed a legitimate(or socially acceptable) reason for suicide , i feel sorry he had problems and wish he coulda seeked better help .
before you negate this point , ask yourself this.... if he was still of sound mind then killed himself , would you still sympathise with him............ if his illness drove him to murder his children and/or wife ...would depression still be a legitimate reason that drove him to it
to me it seems like everyone is saying '' hey its ok he killed himself as he was depressed' , and i agree whole heartily that it is disgusting
i can understand mental illness is a bad thing , and can have severe effects .
but what i cant understand how its deemed a legitimate(or socially acceptable) reason for suicide , i feel sorry he had problems and wish he coulda seeked better help .
before you negate this point , ask yourself this.... if he was still of sound mind then killed himself , would you still sympathise with him............ if his illness drove him to murder his children and/or wife ...would depression still be a legitimate reason that drove him to it
to me it seems like everyone is saying '' hey its ok he killed himself as he was depressed' , and i agree whole heartily that it is disgusting
I'm sure the Vietnamese won't have too much sympathy, although they may change their tune in a few weeks now they can finally have that long overdue lie-in every morning.
She overdosed on a drug while her baby was in the other room, he chose to kill himself because of his depression and his children are grown ups. That's why there will be sympathy for one and not the other.
Many of the comments on this thread just illustrate the huge amount of ignorance surrounding mental illness - possibly one of the most devastating and debilitating illnesses there is and being invisible it makes it worse. Oh, and money doesn't cure it.
my opinion is basically everyone is saying it ok to take your own life if you are depressed.
then calling me disgusting as i disagree, i guess i suck at making points
No one is saying it's okay. It's obviously tragic for all involved. What they are saying is that the fault lies with the illness rather than the person suffering from the illness.
Do you feel sympathy for Robin Williams and not for Peaches Geldof?
There seems to be a lot of sympathy for Robin Williams and there was quite a lot of bitterness towards PG ?
I was wondering why ?
Both had an addiction, alcohol or drugs.
Both suffered with depression.
Both had children.
Both are now sadly gone.
There seems to be a lot of support and affection toward Robin Williams, I was just curious to know what the difference was, or even if there was one?
There is treatment for depression/anxiety which he could have used. Medication/counseling/cognitive-behavioural therapy.
By the way, I struggled with it for 10 years but meds helped me. I never turned to drink or narcotic drugs. There is definitely selfishness in what he did, his family are going to have to grieve through this process. At least when your family are dead and you have no kids no one has to live with the burden.
If someone feels so low that they only way out of their torment is to kill themselves then clearly we cannot judge them by our own standards.
Depression can hit people in different ways, some people can say they have had the illness before but maybe not on the same scale as the next person. There is no logic to depression. In a cold sense, then I guess you could say it is a selfish act to kill yourself but like I said , logic goes out of the window. To someone suffering from depression, in their mind they might feel its selfish for loved ones to want them to carry on suffering alive.
So of course its fairly easy to have sympathy with anyone suffering from depression.
There is treatment for depression/anxiety which he could have used. Medication/counseling/cognitive-behavioural therapy.
By the way, I struggled with it for 10 years but meds helped me. I never turned to drink or narcotic drugs. There is definitely selfishness in what he did, his family are going to have to grieve through this process. At least when your family are dead and you have no kids no one has to live with the burden.
My health is not your health, what works for one won't work for another. I cured mine by food elimination after many years on different pills and therapy that didn't work.
RW just never found what worked for him.
My health is not your health, what works for one won't work for another. I cured mine by food elimination after many years on different pills and therapy that didn't work.
read just never found what worked for him.
Good point.
I have recently read Robert Enke’s biography. (The German national goalkeeper who killed himself leaving a family and young child). He battled depression for years and had two lapses – one he was able to overcome and one that pulled him under. He tried over a long period of time (many years) to fight it with various help so he did try to overcome it but in the end he felt he couldn’t and the only escape was to kill himself. That was a tragedy all round for the whole family.
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Please say you're a troll.
Dear god do you actually believe that? Money can't buy your way out of everything. If that were the case then I'm sure Steve Jobs and Christopher Reeve would still be here and Michael Schumacher would be fighting fit again.
Robin Williams was mentally ill. All the money in the world couldn't 'cure' that. Yes he would've had access to better resources but ultimately he was just too ill and beyond help.
thanks , but the feeling is mutual
i can understand mental illness is a bad thing , and can have severe effects .
but what i cant understand how its deemed a legitimate(or socially acceptable) reason for suicide , i feel sorry he had problems and wish he coulda seeked better help .
before you negate this point , ask yourself this.... if he was still of sound mind then killed himself , would you still sympathise with him............ if his illness drove him to murder his children and/or wife ...would depression still be a legitimate reason that drove him to it
to me it seems like everyone is saying '' hey its ok he killed himself as he was depressed' , and i agree whole heartily that it is disgusting
Seconded.
This doesn't make any sense to me.
neither does your reason for sympathy
my opinion is basically everyone is saying it ok to take your own life if you are depressed.
then calling me disgusting as i disagree, i guess i suck at making points
No one is saying it's okay. It's obviously tragic for all involved. What they are saying is that the fault lies with the illness rather than the person suffering from the illness.
I don't think anyone has said it's 'ok' More that they have said it offers a very sad explanation for it.
Erm, where is my reason for sympathy that you are referring to? Please quote it as I can't find it.
I would agree with you one thing, you do 'suck at making points'.
I still don't understand what you were trying to say in your previous post. Please clarify, if you are able.
How would it help if you have terminal depression?
Exactly, it couldn't help at all. So sad.
Oh dear.
There is treatment for depression/anxiety which he could have used. Medication/counseling/cognitive-behavioural therapy.
By the way, I struggled with it for 10 years but meds helped me. I never turned to drink or narcotic drugs. There is definitely selfishness in what he did, his family are going to have to grieve through this process. At least when your family are dead and you have no kids no one has to live with the burden.
Depression can hit people in different ways, some people can say they have had the illness before but maybe not on the same scale as the next person. There is no logic to depression. In a cold sense, then I guess you could say it is a selfish act to kill yourself but like I said , logic goes out of the window. To someone suffering from depression, in their mind they might feel its selfish for loved ones to want them to carry on suffering alive.
So of course its fairly easy to have sympathy with anyone suffering from depression.
My health is not your health, what works for one won't work for another. I cured mine by food elimination after many years on different pills and therapy that didn't work.
RW just never found what worked for him.
Good point.
I have recently read Robert Enke’s biography. (The German national goalkeeper who killed himself leaving a family and young child). He battled depression for years and had two lapses – one he was able to overcome and one that pulled him under. He tried over a long period of time (many years) to fight it with various help so he did try to overcome it but in the end he felt he couldn’t and the only escape was to kill himself. That was a tragedy all round for the whole family.
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Agreed. Its sad.