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"Fat" Brenda acceptable, Lloyd?

21stCenturyBoy21stCenturyBoy Posts: 44,506
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Watching on catch-up and was surprised, in the middle of his diatribe, that Lloyd used the term "fat" before attaching it to a name.

Does that not carry negative connotations?
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    LiamBerryTea ~LiamBerryTea ~ Posts: 2,644
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    True lol.. Paul would be wise to use this against him
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    cleo petracleo petra Posts: 984
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    Very good point. Having fat before your first name to label you is identifying your personal appearance unnecessarily. perhaps Lloyd should be careful what he says.
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    Adeola_OgundeleAdeola_Ogundele Posts: 23
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    So you want to compare calling somebody 'Fat Brenda' to somebody being casually racist? Is that what you're doing?
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    Menime123Menime123 Posts: 1,838
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    They should introduce Fat Brenda - Eileen could do with a friend!
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    hatpeghatpeg Posts: 3,215
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    Or she could be a friend to fat Mandy.
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    21stCenturyBoy21stCenturyBoy Posts: 44,506
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    Adeola_Ogundele wrote: »
    So you want to compare calling somebody 'Fat Brenda' to somebody being casually racist? Is that what you're doing?

    Both carry hurtful connotations and can affect a persona self confidence

    Being called "fat", having it prefixed to your name in this case, can affect a persons self esteem and lead to a variety of conditions.

    So, in answer to your question, yes.

    Is there a difference between casual racism and deliberate insults based on someone's size.

    Both are based on prejudicing someone based on their physical appearance
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    tripitakatripitaka Posts: 5,636
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    but some his best friends are fat! Mandy for one. Is fat Brenda fatter than her?
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    thejoyof_patthejoyof_pat Posts: 30,752
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    Except if you're Fat Amy.
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    tripitakatripitaka Posts: 5,636
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    cleo petra wrote: »
    Very good point. Having fat before your first name to label you is identifying your personal appearance unnecessarily. perhaps Lloyd should be careful what he says.

    so how about Big Garth? is that acceptable
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    tripitakatripitaka Posts: 5,636
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    Perhaps she's actually Phat Brenda, that would be a good thing wouldn't it?
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    danyelldanyell Posts: 10,884
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    My mum said the exact same thing. Lloyd was definitely being fattiest (or sizeist) But I suppose in this society it's acceptable to be that rather than a racist!
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    mal2poolmal2pool Posts: 5,690
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    They also said they could murder a chinese ! Its getting worse this racism :))
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 287
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    mal2pool wrote: »
    They also said they could murder a chinese ! Its getting worse this racism :))

    If that comment didn't just set me off into labour I don't know what will!

    LOL! :D:D
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    Kitt 2000Kitt 2000 Posts: 1,108
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    The Racist storyline is a bit over the top..
    Paul wasn't even talking to Lyoyd anyway...

    I just want to see Paul call him a Smeg head...
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 287
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    Also this thread reminds me of an episode last week when Carla said "I've seen better figures in a plus size catalogue!" Which is also sizeist. That's just not on! Us fat people have feelings too!!
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    madetomeasuremadetomeasure Posts: 8,271
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    Good thread and spot on
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    PrincessEssexPrincessEssex Posts: 1,414
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    I always imagine Fat Brenda to be a size 6 or something. I've always taken it in jest
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    P-ComboP-Combo Posts: 663
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    This storyline is soo stupid!!!

    Lloyd made it his business to get involved its not like it was actually directed towards him.
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    SteveOwenSteveOwen Posts: 30,430
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    PrincessEssex wrote: »
    I always imagine Fat Brenda to be a size 6 or something. I've always taken it in jest
    Steve and Lloyd once mentioned her having time off to have a gastric band fitted, so I don't think that's the case.
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    peach45peach45 Posts: 9,426
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    They've spoken about Fat Brenda before, anyway I always thought that was her name. :D
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    P-Combo wrote: »
    This storyline is soo stupid!!!

    Lloyd made it his business to get involved its not like it was actually directed towards him.

    That's one of the silliest thing about the plot - it's simply a remark from paul to steve, which jenna overheard (actually, she reacted before he even said it - maybe she's psychic). Then lloyd joined in.
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    LiamBerryTea ~LiamBerryTea ~ Posts: 2,644
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    tripitaka wrote: »
    but some his best friends are fat! Mandy for one. Is fat Brenda fatter than her?

    That's kind of the point in a way though..
    So he is annoyed over racism because of his daughter being offended.. What if someone referred to his partner as Fat Mandy!?
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    LiamBerryTea ~LiamBerryTea ~ Posts: 2,644
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    mal2pool wrote: »
    They also said they could murder a chinese ! Its getting worse this racism :))

    Haha I thought that too!!!:D
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    LaineyTLaineyT Posts: 6,392
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    Theres no need to call her Fat Brenda really its not like there is a couple of other Brendas in the street....
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    HoffmisterHoffmister Posts: 12,030
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    In Red Dwarf there is thing about did Lister know a gay person and he rants on about of course he does, there was bent Bob ... but like with Brenda he never called him that to his face.
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