Radio 1 announce new "costcutting" schedule

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  • occyoccy Posts: 65,045
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    I told you BBC Radio will be having budget cuts right across the broad with Radio 2 also.
  • Lee MorrisLee Morris Posts: 2,824
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    Annie Nightingale is on between 1 and 4am I think it is Tuesday overnights, as for other things and I feel that Radio 1 although sad could have axed at least one, two or three more shows instead of still having a different show on each night overnight as well as between 4 and 6am on weekend mornings.

    In the early 90s I think the only variations were the 9-10pm shows on weeknights as well as obviously The Friday Rock Show where as you had the same overnight presenter on weeknights and then a weekend overnight presenter, having said that if Radio 1 cut down on more shows would they dare axe Annie Nightingale?. She is like the John Peel of Radio 1 by which I mean if Radio 1 had have axed John Peel there would have been an outcry and the same with Annie Nightingale.

    One of the shows they could have also axed is Diplo and Friends but anyway although sad I feel that while Radio 1 tries to provide variety since the changes in October 1993 things have gone crazy with too many specialist shows as you never had two shows overnight when Radio 1 first went 24hours and at one point they even had a lunchtime show as well as afternoon show and a drivetime show, and yet has the quality or presentation of shows been good?.

    In some ways as I have said in the past you never had the smutty talk in the days of Bruno Brookes and Gary Davies which has crept into Radio 1 since so I feel you need less presenters and the ones you keep need to be quality without the smut or sexual talk, maybe with less shows it will mean less in the variety of music leading to less of the vile and sometimes outrageous music that crept into the charts over the 00s etc.

    I wonder how long it will be until a weekend early show comes back to Radio 1 presented be the same person instead of the specialist shows?.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 524
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    Lee Morris wrote: »

    I wonder how long it will be until a weekend early show comes back to Radio 1 presented be the same person instead of the specialist shows?.

    Why would an early weekend be needed? This is a network targeted at a youth audience.

    Specialist shows are helped massively by iPlayer these days, and its been a lot easier for shows to build a following thanks to this than it was back in the 90s. As a result their place in the schedule does need to be protected.

    Agree about the Diplo show. 9 out 10 times its his 'Friends', whose quality is very variable
  • LateralthinkingLateralthinking Posts: 8,027
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    Lee Morris wrote: »
    Annie Nightingale is on between 1 and 4am I think it is Tuesday overnights, as for other things and I feel that Radio 1 although sad could have axed at least one, two or three more shows instead of still having a different show on each night overnight as well as between 4 and 6am on weekend mornings.

    In the early 90s I think the only variations were the 9-10pm shows on weeknights as well as obviously The Friday Rock Show where as you had the same overnight presenter on weeknights and then a weekend overnight presenter, having said that if Radio 1 cut down on more shows would they dare axe Annie Nightingale?. She is like the John Peel of Radio 1 by which I mean if Radio 1 had have axed John Peel there would have been an outcry and the same with Annie Nightingale.

    One of the shows they could have also axed is Diplo and Friends but anyway although sad I feel that while Radio 1 tries to provide variety since the changes in October 1993 things have gone crazy with too many specialist shows as you never had two shows overnight when Radio 1 first went 24hours and at one point they even had a lunchtime show as well as afternoon show and a drivetime show, and yet has the quality or presentation of shows been good?.

    In some ways as I have said in the past you never had the smutty talk in the days of Bruno Brookes and Gary Davies which has crept into Radio 1 since so I feel you need less presenters and the ones you keep need to be quality without the smut or sexual talk, maybe with less shows it will mean less in the variety of music leading to less of the vile and sometimes outrageous music that crept into the charts over the 00s etc.

    I wonder how long it will be until a weekend early show comes back to Radio 1 presented be the same person instead of the specialist shows?.

    Thanks for the info about Annie. She is genuinely legendary and I can testify from personal experience that she really has time for her listeners. I also agree with your comments about the abysmal level of presenter dialogue.
  • occyoccy Posts: 65,045
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    Massive budget coming from The Department for Culture, Media and Sport with politicians screaming, then pushed onto the BBC Trust.
  • occyoccy Posts: 65,045
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    This trend started when Chris Moyles and his team left.
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    occy wrote: »
    This trend started when Chris Moyles and his team left.

    Not sure what you mean by his team leaving, considering most of them (bar Dave and Dom) are still at Radio 1
  • TUCTUC Posts: 5,105
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    Yordel wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean by his team leaving, considering most of them (bar Dave and Dom) are still at Radio 1

    So three out of five have left with only the sports reporter and the producer left. That what is meant by his team leaving.
  • occyoccy Posts: 65,045
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    Yordel wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean by his team leaving, considering most of them (bar Dave and Dom) are still at Radio 1

    Dom left to present News on Capital Radio London Breakfast. Dave left to do his corporate stuff
  • ian001ian001 Posts: 997
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    No news about Annie Nightingale or Essential mix (assume that it's on at 4am now).

    Annie Nightingale moves to weeknights. Annie has gone from weekends to weeknights and back again at least twice now.

    4am is a ridiculous time for the Essential Mix.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/L6PQ2p6R4JM13Tn6MKxg2T/radio-1-and-1xtra-announce-schedule-changes
  • LateralthinkingLateralthinking Posts: 8,027
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    ian001 wrote: »
    Annie Nightingale moves to weeknights. Annie has gone from weekends to weeknights and back again at least twice now.

    4am is a ridiculous time for the Essential Mix.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/L6PQ2p6R4JM13Tn6MKxg2T/radio-1-and-1xtra-announce-schedule-changes

    I agree. The move isn't to do with programme content so it looks like age discrimination.
  • GeordieyodelGeordieyodel Posts: 901
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    ian001 wrote: »
    Annie Nightingale moves to weeknights. Annie has gone from weekends to weeknights and back again at least twice now.

    4am is a ridiculous time for the Essential Mix.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/L6PQ2p6R4JM13Tn6MKxg2T/radio-1-and-1xtra-announce-schedule-changes

    But at least it's still there; I would have imagined the majority of Essential Mix listeners use IPlayer. A good thing too is that no genres have suffered, there's still a degree of cross-genre representation.
  • wcewce Posts: 76
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    pjex wrote: »
    Sara Cox did the Surgery before breakfast and she'd already finished her 3.5 year stint on breakfast 10 years ago, Moyles had started breakfast. Cox started the surgery late 90s so Sunday nights for more like 15 years.
    It started in 1999 I can remember it was on after Dance Anthems (it was the era that Dave Pearce also did the weekday drivetime slot) ;-)
  • RijowhiRijowhi Posts: 1,062
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    I agree. The move isn't to do with programme content so it looks like age discrimination.

    Though it must be said Radio 1 want to connect with younger audience then surely the older DJ's should go? When it comes to matching Radio formats, surely there is some case for some form of age discrimination?
  • LateralthinkingLateralthinking Posts: 8,027
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    Rijowhite wrote: »
    Though it must be said Radio 1 want to connect with younger audience then surely the older DJ's should go? When it comes to matching Radio formats, surely there is some case for some form of age discrimination?

    If it was Bob Harris on R1 with Crosby, Stills and Nash I might understand it but Annie Nightingale has adapted with the times musically. She is certainly more in line with British teenagers than I am now even though she is much older than me. She also has authority which is something I liked in presenters when I was a teenager. I don't think I was particularly unusual in not wanting silly chatter but maybe I would be if I was that age now. I don't know.
  • markmagmarkmag Posts: 3,131
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    So Annie Nightingale gets simulcast on 1xtra. Didn't see that coming. Her and Rodigan are really upping the average age of the presenters there...

    Rob Da Bank is the biggest loss here. I hope 6 music give him a more regular show eventually and not just 6mix. Still love catching his show live whenever I can. Jen and Ally have been unlucky too.
  • dzfootballdzfootball Posts: 4,106
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    Friday night dance line up, is getting weaker too, 3 hour shows and Pete Tong pushed back to 10pm.

    They need to refresh the daytime line up Cotton is terrible and the less said about Gemma Cairney.
  • theboyroddtheboyrodd Posts: 360
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    pjex wrote: »
    Sara Cox did the Surgery before breakfast and she'd already finished her 3.5 year stint on breakfast 10 years ago, Moyles had started breakfast. Cox started the surgery late 90s so Sunday nights for more like 15 years.

    What's your point, Dan p carter is 39 hardly fitting with Radio 1's demographic.
  • hotguy25hotguy25 Posts: 879
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    i wish they would axe annie mac - she has no personality and her show has no atmosphere (altho i thought the same of tong when he took over from jeff young, but from 92 onwards i loved tong, but have never liked annie mac)

    the only good thing to come from this is that b traits gets a decent show.
  • GeordieyodelGeordieyodel Posts: 901
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    dzfootball wrote: »
    Friday night dance line up, is getting weaker too, 3 hour shows and Pete Tong pushed back to 10pm.

    They need to refresh the daytime line up Cotton is terrible and the less said about Gemma Cairney.

    I would imagine a straight swap between Fearne Cotton and Alice Levine in two years time, perhaps Matt Edmondson and Scott Mills similarly. Hopefully Phil Taggart will still be there too, if Zane Lowe were to ever make the move to 6 Music.
  • hotguy25hotguy25 Posts: 879
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    i read somewhere recently (sorry dont know the source) that Pete Tong has one of the youngest audiences on radio1
  • GeordieyodelGeordieyodel Posts: 901
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    Thinking about this a little more, and this is personal preference of course, I would rather have seen Phil Taggart Sundays 7-10pm, the Rock Show Mon 10pm-1am and Huw Stephens Tues-Thurs, with The Residency (surely a costly broadcast) an hour from Thurs 9-10.
  • oscar1oscar1 Posts: 5,079
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    Save even more money
    close Radio 1 down completely and let Radio Caroline take over . . . . . .
    Regards.
  • pjexpjex Posts: 9,371
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    Interesting changes, some observations;

    Pete Tong and Annie Nightingale get an extra hour and Annie gets simulcast on 1 Xtra.

    Dev becomes the first presenter for years to get a 4 hour show (Since Bob Harris?).

    Most shows now 3 hours, but odd one of the biggest names Zane Lowe still only gets 2 hours.

    Daniel P Carter promoted to Sunday 7pm, Annie Mac at 7 and Rock at 10 would have made more sense? Big promotion for presenter just before his 40th, so hitting 40 doesn't always spell the end of Radio 1 careers.

    Huw's new show only 3 nights as not on a Thursday which is strange.
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    pjex wrote: »
    Interesting changes, some observations;

    Pete Tong and Annie Nightingale get an extra hour and Annie gets simulcast on 1 Xtra.

    Dev becomes the first presenter for years to get a 4 hour show (Since Bob Harris?).<snip>

    Bob's old show stayed at four hours until early 1997. Dave Pearce did a four hour show on Sunday in 1996.
    Most shows now 3 hours, but odd one of the biggest names Zane Lowe still only gets 2 hours.

    Daniel P Carter promoted to Sunday 7pm, Annie Mac at 7 and Rock at 10 would have made more sense? <snip>

    I would guess the reason is the other weekend evenings from 7-10 - a flagship dance show Friday, flagship urban show Saturday so having a rock show Sunday at 7 would fit that pattern.

    Annie Mac would be less of a gear change after the Chart Show though - although hopefully the timing will help rock music get some more traction.
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