Amy and Rose
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Just a quick thought that entered my head but if Amy Pond falls for the Doctor, which seems to be a running trend apart from Donna, Wilf and all the 'companions' in the special eps, and then suddenly Amy has to leave. Do you think we will get a repeat of what happened with Rose and the Doctor? so any companion who takes Amy's place will get abuse and accusations of being rubbish, unworthy etc
I know SM is a clever writer based on 'Blink' and other episodes but i hope he's smart enough not to go down that route. I didnt mind it the first time round (though Rose came back too many times) i just dont want to see it again.
I know SM is a clever writer based on 'Blink' and other episodes but i hope he's smart enough not to go down that route. I didnt mind it the first time round (though Rose came back too many times) i just dont want to see it again.
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We don't want and won't get another "Bad Wolf". That's a RTD thing but I do think we'll get a conclusion to the Time War saga. I think we'll be seeing the Time Lords back again sooner or later.
I doubt you have cause to worry. I don't think Moffat's that dumb.
3 if you count Astrid.
4 counting Jack
Absolutely not.
Jack fancies The Doctor but such feelings are NOT reciprocated.
She'll leave anyway the companions don't have much of a shelf life. Things get repetitive. She'll stay, if she's lucky, two series. Although if I'm betting I'd say she'll be there one and then go part time in the second or something.
However if they continue like the Tennant/Ecces era then none of the characters will really leave until the end of Smith's era which will be what:3 years.
Agree with this completely.
Moffat is not stupid enough to do this sort of sub-plot again.
One of the biggest tragedies of RTD's tenure was that he retro-fitted an unrequited romance between Sarah Jane and The Doctor - one that had not even a whiff of a hint throughout her entire run on the original show.
That Sarah Jane fell in love with the Doc was as absurd as it was unnecessary and forced. When they first met the Doc was a chap in his 50s and she was 20+. Their relationship was more father/daughter at first and this style of relationship persisted even after he became Tom Baker.
The suggestion by RTD that all young female companions fall in love with the Doc was annoying and pathetic. :mad:
Damn RTD and his straight agenda.
Agree with most of what you say except that I feel the 4th Doctor/Sarah relationship was more of good friends. He was quite happy to let her wander off at times and do her own thing whereas Pertwee's Doctor was ore protective of her
BARROWMAN!!! *shakes fist*
Lamey. (Geddit :cool:)
Am I never got the sense that she was in love with him ever. Sad about her time being over and wistful and in love with the past (as people tend to get) BUT I never sensed she was in love with the DR (in a romantic sense anyway).
Rose was in love with the DR. She got her mortal Dr in the end.
Martha, as was made very clear early on, came from a bit of a messed up family (as only the middle class do it) and she desperately wanted someone to love her. Hence her unrequited love thing. Which kind of ties in with the end that she got (that the relaltionship she ended up with was balanced and reciprocal)
And Donna would never have loved the Dr in a million years. For her it was about proving to herself that she was worth something, and then of course she forgot it all but whatever.
Seeing as the new doctor and his companion are both very young. Their world will probably be more akin to life in a student flat (kidding)
I think they did make out that the relationship she had with the Doctor was of greater importance to her than it seemed in the 1970's but I don't think they intended or portrayed it as a romantic love.
I think the idea was more, how do you go back to a normal life, of going to work and paying the bills after this kind of life with the Doctor. The fear was more what do you do after getting left behind than anything else.
Surely the Doctors relationship with Rose has underlined he's not a romantic lead - at the end of the day he told her he couldn't give her what she wanted.
There was no need to being back Sarah Jane at all in "School Reunion". I found the episode trite, cringeworthy and over-sentimental. It was only redeemed by K9 and his phasering the monsters routine!
Why did RTD want to bring back Sarah Jane surely one of the blandest companions. The previous attempt at giving her her own show failed and from what I have seen Liz SLaden hasn't improved as an actress much in the intervening 27 years or so.
And then if that was not all we get this schmaltzy side story of deep, deep regret and sorrow from Sarah Jane about being left on Earth (she chose to after the Eldrad incident, actually).
Watching that episode again it is clear that the writer (?) decided to insinuate that Sarah Jane did have a bit of a crush on the Doc.
Just pathetic.
Thats exactly it! Sarah Jane loved the travelling etc and there was a nostalgic rose tinted glow to the life. And she always kept a part of that wander lust with her too (choice of career) but in the end she choose to have a child and a normalish life above the Dr.
Yeah exactly and I think that Rose was in love with th DR and in that sense the writers were boxed in to a corner with her. She would never have left him ever. It was never really the adventure that she seemed to lust after. It was him.
Martha was all about that way of life. She left the Dr and she continued in that line of life: UNIT, Torchwood, Free lance and I think it was interesting that she married the other character who found the travelling interesting, and from a species and mechanical point of view stimulating. But from the travellign point of view long term: he turned it down time and again.
It was interesting that those two were the only ones of the current 'family' to return to 'normal' earth life; married, house/apartment, bills, groceries, whatever but yet there was still that adventure lust about them: with their jobs.
Donna's left out of this: she forgot. But I don't think she's have ever left him either.
See above about the rose tinted view of that carefree adventurous time.
And I thought it provided a nice link with the past series and she isn't in it that much. Just shows up for the family reunions so to speak.
Brought back because she had consistently topped polls before 2005 of the most popular companion. In fact she was so popular at the time that her leaving the show was announced on the BBC news..something that has only ever happened to the Doctor himself
RTD succumbs to populism over actually creating good characters.