Capital FM Network (Part 2)

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  • dpbdpb Posts: 12,031
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    However, noticing that Andi has a few contacts with some of the guys from Kiss FM (supporting his remixes) I think Kiss may already be in with a chance of hiring him. Question is, where would he do his show from?

    The Ex Vibe studios?
    considering the "ex-vibe" studios have been decommissioned and no longer in use it'd be the main Kiss studios in London. I'm sure Andi has been doing his shows on Capital from Leicester Square anyway
    Ermmm.. not really.. He records it (mostly) from 105 Yorkshire studios.. That explains why his show (sometimes) starts/ends early or late.. He sends out 6 x 28 minute prerecords to London for the network producer to schedule it into genisys.. (was informed of this & saw a picture of studio 1 streaming his show out)

    Bauer have studios in Leeds (Radio Aire) if Kiss did hire him and were happy for him to not come from London.

    Personally I can't see Radio 1 hiring him.

    I think he'll go down the syndicated route that darkknight77 mentions - former Galaxyers Graeme Park and David Dunne also both do their own syndicated shows.
  • MusicmasterproxMusicmasterprox Posts: 959
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    dpb wrote: »
    Bauer have studios in Leeds (Radio Aire) if Kiss did hire him and were happy for him to not come from London.

    Personally I can't see Radio 1 hiring him.

    I think he'll go down the syndicated route that darkknight77 mentions - former Galaxyers Graeme Park and David Dunne also both do their own syndicated shows.

    Pretty much make an alternative version to Pete Tong's Evolution Radio Show then?
  • MusicmasterproxMusicmasterprox Posts: 959
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    New Presenter joining the network tomorrow. I'm assuming that it's Andi Durrant's replacement?
  • Liam_CLiam_C Posts: 105
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    It's been revealed as avicii... Very impressed, the question is why has avicii agreed to lower his level to capital?
  • MusicmasterproxMusicmasterprox Posts: 959
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    Liam_C wrote: »
    It's been revealed as avicii... Very impressed, the question is why has avicii agreed to lower his level to capital?

    Last minute signing? Considering he covered for Pete Tong last Friday night?
  • -ajm--ajm- Posts: 5,879
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    Monthly.
  • dpbdpb Posts: 12,031
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    I wonder if this will turn out to be a weekly mix show but with rotating guest DJs?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 184
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    Happy that Avicii has joined but very poor that specialist finishes at 1AM. His show is monthly, so i'm guessing his show is just going to be his podcast.

    Just what FM_Bandit said "Capital is dead to me"
  • MusicmasterproxMusicmasterprox Posts: 959
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    MattJW wrote: »
    Happy that Avicii has joined but very poor that specialist finishes at 1AM. His show is monthly, so i'm guessing his show is just going to be his podcast.

    Just what FM_Bandit said "Capital is dead to me"

    Why couldn't they've signed Tiesto up. Considering that he did a weekly show for the Galaxy network?
  • dpbdpb Posts: 12,031
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    Liam_C wrote: »
    It's been revealed as avicii... Very impressed, the question is why has avicii agreed to lower his level to capital?

    Surely it's a win win for him surely? He gets paid to do a mix and no doubt Capital will promote it the week before - probably after playing his songs.
  • Eric_BlobEric_Blob Posts: 7,756
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    Liam_C wrote: »
    It's been revealed as avicii... Very impressed, the question is why has avicii agreed to lower his level to capital?

    Is it surprising? Avicii + Capital go hand in hand.
  • omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,820
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    Liam_C wrote: »
    It's been revealed as avicii... Very impressed, the question is why has avicii agreed to lower his level to capital?

    Many of these famous club DJs do radio shows which are syndicated on stations around the world and available as Podcasts. I imagine Capital have just done a deal to air Avicii's monthly "Levels" show. It's produced by http://www.thenoisehouse.com/ who offer a range of similar shows fronted by Eric Prydz, Afrojack, Sebastian Ingrosso etc..
  • Sam WalkerSam Walker Posts: 165
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    FM_Bandit wrote: »
    And there it is. Capital is dead to me. :mad:
    I more or less gave up as well. I listen to it when I'm in Leicester and that's it. I've had a play around with comparemyradio.com and found Capital's 'variety guage'. They played 8,801 songs over the last month, of which 256 were unique, giving them a variety guage of... 3%. :eek: That's shocking. :mad:
  • mj_32510mj_32510 Posts: 847
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    dpb wrote: »
    Surely it's a win win for him surely? He gets paid to do a mix and no doubt Capital will promote it the week before - probably after playing his songs.

    He also has a new album out which i'm sure will help promote it.
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    The Mixtape is back this week, it's seems. I'm guessing because they haven't got enough specialist hours since has Andi left?
  • Eric_BlobEric_Blob Posts: 7,756
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    Sam Walker wrote: »
    I more or less gave up as well. I listen to it when I'm in Leicester and that's it. I've had a play around with comparemyradio.com and found Capital's 'variety guage'. They played 8,801 songs over the last month, of which 256 were unique, giving them a variety guage of... 3%. :eek: That's shocking. :mad:

    I've talked about this before, but why do Capital never even give one spin to certain tracks? I don't get it. Say they play The Other Side by Jason Derulo 70 times a week (which seems plausible to be honest). Why don't they reduce its plays to 69 times a week and play Turn It Around by Sub Focus once in place of that extra "slot" they have? I can't remember the last time I heard a song get a one-off play on Capital. The songs that don't get played often are all recurrent tracks that they were playing loads 2-3 years ago anyway.
  • chipmanchipman Posts: 253
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    It used to be circa 150-160 unique tracks on comparemyradio.com for Capital but we don't know accurate that is; pretty good guess though!

    Kiss has a similar number of unique tracks to Capital at present.

    One issue is that due to the ex-Galaxy stations' licences, we will never have a true CHR station in London as both Capital and Kiss have to be rhythmic in nature.

    No matter how good any material from Mumford and Sons, Kings of Leon (new material out recently) or any other similar band is, it won't make the playlist. It means there are two very similar stations in London.

    I am a fan of both and love Capital's dance mix shows...so well produced and bang-on music policy. AJ on Kiss is good too and kisstory has alsays been brilliant.

    Capital are lucky at present that the charts are dominated by music that fits a rhythmic format. Theg are allowed 5% maximum 'off-format' or 'spice tracks' but this won't be enough if music tastes change.
  • radiodadradiodad Posts: 2,071
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    chipman wrote: »
    It used to be circa 150-160 unique tracks on comparemyradio.com for Capital but we don't know accurate that is; pretty good guess though!

    Kiss has a similar number of unique tracks to Capital at present.

    One issue is that due to the ex-Galaxy stations' licences, we will never have a true CHR station in London as both Capital and Kiss have to be rhythmic in nature.

    No matter how good any material from Mumford and Sons, Kings of Leon (new material out recently) or any other similar band is, it won't make the playlist. It means there are two very similar stations in London.

    I am a fan of both and love Capital's dance mix shows...so well produced and bang-on music policy. AJ on Kiss is good too and kisstory has alsays been brilliant.

    Capital are lucky at present that the charts are dominated by music that fits a rhythmic format. Theg are allowed 5% maximum 'off-format' or 'spice tracks' but this won't be enough if music tastes change.

    Agreed, listening to Z100 the other day and while its tighter (Katy Perry - Roar on twice in 40 mins) it has a lot more variety in terms of what it plays with them playing more guitar based music so much so they even gave Linkin Park - Numb a spin while i was listening.

    Capital is sounding big at the moment thought, i assume they got a lot of artist drops at the summertime ball as there power intros are big at the moment.
  • chipmanchipman Posts: 253
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    Those matters aside, Capital is sounding the best it has in years. The dance mix shows, the power intros; it's all very slick!
  • radiodadradiodad Posts: 2,071
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    chipman wrote: »
    Those matters aside, Capital is sounding the best it has in years. The dance mix shows, the power intros; it's all very slick!

    Agreed its sounding really good at the moment, the on air sound makes it sound huge. Radio 1 in comparison sounds like a small tinpot.
  • MrRayDOMrRayDO Posts: 1,144
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    good on DAB for us who dont live in london
  • MusicmasterproxMusicmasterprox Posts: 959
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    chipman wrote: »
    Capital are lucky at present that the charts are dominated by music that fits a rhythmic format. Theg are allowed 5% maximum 'off-format' or 'spice tracks' but this won't be enough if music tastes change.

    I'm sure that they'll apply for a format change within the next 3 years to allow them to carry the non-urban style tracks.

    Ofcom will change the format because (with it being less specialist than it was under Galaxy) they wouldn't see it as a major change (character wise) for the output.

    This will depend on whether they have plans to sell part of the Galaxy network or rebrand Capital Birmingham as Capital Extra - which could have a major impact on the current output on the network.

    If they dump Capital Scotland (seems likely out of keeping both Smooth & Real which as both located in a better premisses), would that make any major impact on the network?
  • dpbdpb Posts: 12,031
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    I'm sure that they'll apply for a format change within the next 3 years to allow them to carry the non-urban style tracks.<snip>

    I could see a format change request to become "predominately" or "mainly" rhythmic-based. That way they could argue the vast majority of the music would still be rhythmic-based and the amount of non-rhythmic music would still be in the minority.
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    Is the mixtape still going?
  • Eric_BlobEric_Blob Posts: 7,756
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    I wouldn't describe Capital as "rhythmic" at all. It plays a lot of dance songs by black artists, which is probably how it gets away with being called "rhythmic", and how it fits whatever rhythmic requirements it has, but a rhythmic station is supposed to play R&B and hip hop too, and there's hardly any of that on Capital in the day-time, especially pre-2013 (there is now, because R&B/hip hop has made a huge comeback in the charts in 2013 via Blurred Lines, Suit & Tie, Mirrors, Thrift Shop, Can't Hold Us, but 2012 and before hardly any R&B/hip hop was on Capital).

    Musically the dance songs by black artists are no different from the dance songs by white artists. So Capital can maybe thinks it's a rhythmic station because it plays Starships by Nicki Minaj and songs like that, but really that's top 40 music. Yes, Chris Brown, Usher, Ne-Yo, etc. may be R&B singers, but Capital doesn't actually play any of their R&B songs. It plays their dance-pop songs which is exactly the same type of music that Kylie Minogue, Lady Gaga, Britney Spears release.
    radiodad wrote: »
    Agreed, listening to Z100 the other day and while its tighter (Katy Perry - Roar on twice in 40 mins) it has a lot more variety in terms of what it plays with them playing more guitar based music so much so they even gave Linkin Park - Numb a spin while i was listening.

    Capital is sounding big at the moment thought, i assume they got a lot of artist drops at the summertime ball as there power intros are big at the moment.

    You bring up Z100, so find me a rhythmic station in the US that has a playlist like Capital then. Find me a rhythmic station in the US who has Taylor Swift as one of their most-played artists. Find me a rhythmic station in the US that has never had a J Cole or Big Sean single in high rotation. Why in 2011 were Wonderman by Tinie Tempah and I Need a Doctor by Dr. Dre not played on the station in the day-time?

    In Birmingham we don't have any radio stations that play that kind of music. Whilst Galaxy FM would've played those songs. And you bring up Linkin Park on Z100, but Galaxy did used to give spins to Numb/Encore, and also to My Chemical Romance, Razorlight, and many others back in 2006/2007, when that type of music was dominating the charts. They weren't getting huge airplay on the station, but at least occasional spins here and there. That's what I was saying before, Capital could be like Galaxy and give one spin during day-time hours each day to The 1975 or Bastille or whatever, but they never seem to do that.
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