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ITV messing up Dancing on Ice all Stars??
Mr_XcX
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Anyone else think they are potentially ruining a fantastic series. First of why have Joe / Todd as contestants and the ridiculous idea from the producers to have half the cast perform on Week 1 to a double elimination and the other half for another double Week 2.
On Strictly they tend to get the most out of the celebrities till the vote offs. For instance, 1st elimination is Week 2 and doubles near towards the finale.
On Strictly they tend to get the most out of the celebrities till the vote offs. For instance, 1st elimination is Week 2 and doubles near towards the finale.
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I agree entirely on the double eliminations though.
I think it would've been Jorgie/Bonnie B2 as Bonnie was never popular with the voters in series 1. Then I think the judges would still have eliminated Jorgie
IIRC he has admitted he was supposed to trip or wobble over on purpose a bit and then turn back around and assume the finishing pose. But instead he actually went stumbling fully A over T down the tunnel and have to be returned to standing position and flirted back out by the backstage crew. It was funny at the time to me, though.
Why dangle a carrot in front of our faces, then not let us have it? Booting four of them out so early is only going to leave us bitter and disappointed, and some won't bother watching once their favourite leaves.
Surely it'd be much better to keep as many as possible until as late as possible? Do a double in a few weeks time, followed by another towards the end. There's no rush, and the "twists" are utterly pointless. Not only did they kill the programme in the first place, but they also DO NOT MATTER. The show has been axed, so why do they seemingly still care about the ratings? Stop these cheap publicity stunts, trying to shock us all, when all we want is to CELEBRATE the last series.
It should be full of smiles and happiness, not getting the contestants and viewers worked up. It's called Dancing on Ice, not The X Factor, stop chasing headlines and ratings and cheap shocks - it doesn't work.
The producers have shown us exactly why it's been axed - they're absolutely useless and have no idea how to run the show.
4 eliminations in 2 weeks is ridiculous. They could also have had less contestants - Joe and Todd should never have been brought back, it's supposed to be All Stars for Heaven's sake! For comedy value Vanilla Ice or Chico or even Keith Chegwin would have been better as they are a better standard.
Only if they were silly enough to have repeated the last few years format and allowed the public vote alone to decide. There was no need for a double elimination in week one, as there was no deadwood in that show, apart from Joe the comic, to remove. and, if the judges vote had been counted, as in any other week , Joe would have been in the bottom two and would have gone. They didn't need to keep popular people in either. regardless of their ability. because they have a lot of popular people there too. They also had plenty of past experience to tell them that some good peformers would be at risk, with only the public vote counting.
Yeah, I strongly suspect it would've been a Bonnie/Jorgie bottom 2 anyway. But I agree with the points being made, it's been a horrible, cruel start to a series that should be fun. They have nothing to prove and they've wasted opportunities.
It's safe to say with the judges/public vote combined though that Jorgie would at least have been in the skate-off, wouldn't she? And if Joe got more votes than Bonnie, would that have been enough to put Bonnie in the skate-off or Joe? Either way it proves Jorgie's time was always going to be limited.
We also can't know for sure that the scores wouldn't have been different if the judges knew their opinions counted - Jason in particular seemed to not care about rating Joe highly or ripping into Kyran. There was possible tactics involved or sheer flippancy, and we know the public's own votes are often affected by marks. In fact if Joe and Jorgie had been ripped into they could have both been higher in the vote.
It would've been Joe vs. Jorgie in the skate off had the leaderboard counted.
There's no way that Bonnie could've been on less points than Joe, whether she came 5th or 6th in the voting.
Scenario 1:
Bonnie - 5 + 3 = 8
Jorgie - 6 + 1 = 7
Joe - 3 + 2 = 5
Scenario 2:
Bonnie - 5 + 2 = 7
Jorgie - 6 + 1 = 7
Joe - 3 + 3 = 6
I do agree it's likely we'd have a Joe skate-off though meaning no one good would have gone. A stupid, horrible rule, especially when next week looks pretty lame in comparison.
Glad I'm not the only one. ITV should have extended the show to 12 weeks. Elimination on Week 2, double elimination weeks 10 / 11 etc. All contestants perform week 1. Not half and half. The producers just made the show tacky.
BBC have the top show in Strictly because like you said they know how to actually run the show.
Agree, the way Jorgie was treated and also Nicholas on X Factor last year. Just poor grace from ITV.
When they invited these two back, we knew exactly what we are going to get and so it's not funny any more. It's like telling the same joke twice and expecting the same laugh every time.
I couldn't agree more. And to be honest I'm surprised that Joe & Todd actually agreed to return - shows a level of desperation perhaps?
Only if you took out the judges vote - which should have pulled one of Bonnie or Jorgie higher than the bottom 2. There was no reason to take it out, and if only one contestant had been going, there wasn't even an argument to just do what was done last year again. Joe might escape the bottom two if he got higher in the vote, but we know he was no higher than third from the bottom, and that wouldn't have been enough to avoid the bottom two on the normal counting rules. Of course you are right that things might change if the format was known to be different, but Joe couldn't get higher in a vote where the public vote was known to be more important, and the judges had already done a good job positioning him, without looking mean or nasty, and building his vote.
Joe at least can play different characters and be silly. I am intrigued how Todd will skate off stage in a new way, or find some other way of not being any good? He has done some comedy in spamalot since, but he can't do a routine from that on ice - and his singing ain't good. Whats he going to do in week two if he re-enacts the skate off stage in week one? What dpes he skate as his skate off skate - is his skate off skate his off stage skate? Or would someone skating off stage, to save themselves leaving the stage, be just too silly?
But that is effectively saying that T&D are past it.
I think if the scoreboard had counted Gareth could also possibly have been in trouble. Had he came 4th in the vote he would only have had 2judges + 4public.
I shan't be watching again until the dross has been eliminated - I can't stand to watch bad skating; I don't find it at all funny.
As for the smugs; I just record it on Sky+ & watch later, so I can FF them all with the adverts, (they are in the same category; annoying, expensive & of little use). ;-)