The Tories bashing of the poor and needy will lose them the election.

Aura101Aura101 Posts: 8,327
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In my personal opinion we have a strong leader in Cameron.
Unfortunately for him he has shown zero compassion for what is happening to some of the needy in this country.
Also having a sociopath in charge of welfare for the full 5 year term even though its been proven time and time again how incompetent Ian Duncan Smith is really was a massive boo boo.

They will no longer be running the country by summer even though they could have so easily won the election !
What a bunch of knobs
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  • GibsonSGGibsonSG Posts: 23,681
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    Cameron is to the Tories and the Country what Ricky Wilson is to the Kaiser Chiefs. A good frontman but lacking in talent.
  • Sky_GuySky_Guy Posts: 6,859
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    Clouds.

    I bet Cameron is in number 10 by the end of May.
  • Mister RichardMister Richard Posts: 2,871
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    Cameron and I Duncan Smith = Dumb and dumber. Please keep doing what you are both doing, It's fascinating! Here we are with an election around the corner, and the nasty party can't even be nice for one second, even to save their power mad political lives! They are just too nasty by nature, and they make no bones about how they will bash up the poor and sick and disabled (again). God help all those people (myself included) if they get back in again. Their intentions are very clear. If you are poor, sick or disabled, they will stick the knife in even more. How people on this forum can defend this party is totally beyond belief.
  • warlordwarlord Posts: 3,292
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    What is the point of the poor and disabled? Why can't they emigrate to a socialist country instead of whining endlessly?
  • Mister RichardMister Richard Posts: 2,871
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    Oh dear. What a terrible troll.
  • Judge MentalJudge Mental Posts: 18,593
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    warlord wrote: »
    What is the point of the poor and disabled? Why can't they emigrate to a socialist country instead of whining endlessly?

    The same reason why those who don't want to pay tax for public services won't move to Somalia I guess.
  • THOMOTHOMO Posts: 7,447
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    Aura101 wrote: »
    In my personal opinion we have a strong leader in Cameron.
    Unfortunately for him he has shown zero compassion for what is happening to some of the needy in this country.
    Also having a sociopath in charge of welfare for the full 5 year term even though its been proven time and time again how incompetent Ian Duncan Smith is really was a massive boo boo.

    They will no longer be running the country by summer even though they could have so easily won the election !
    What a bunch of knobs
    If Labour had another leader, I would be 100% more confident of the getting the most seats and even a majority. But with Ed Millaband as leader I'm not so sure. Labour would be miles ahead in the opinion polls with someone else and I voted for David Millaband in the Labour Party leadership elections. But I'm much less confident with Ed Millaband, and I fear the Consevatives will get the most seats in this election.
    Ian.
  • TequilaTequila Posts: 5,111
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    The same reason why those who don't want to pay tax for public services won't move to Somalia I guess.

    Did you mean less tax or no tax?

    People who want to pay less tax don't want to live in Somalia. Libertarianism doesn't mean no government. It's not a creed I follow, to be sure, but it pays not to misrepresent what you are on about.
  • Steve_CardanasSteve_Cardanas Posts: 4,188
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    Aura101 wrote: »
    In my personal opinion we have a strong leader in Cameron.
    Unfortunately for him he has shown zero compassion for what is happening to some of the needy in this country.
    Also having a sociopath in charge of welfare for the full 5 year term even though its been proven time and time again how incompetent Ian Duncan Smith is really was a massive boo boo.

    They will no longer be running the country by summer even though they could have so easily won the election !
    What a bunch of knobs

    a poster the labour party should use about the conservatives

  • SurrenderBillSurrenderBill Posts: 19,084
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    warlord wrote: »
    What is the point of the poor and disabled? Why can't they emigrate to a socialist country instead of whining endlessly?

    What's the point of trolls, why can't they all just chase celebrities on Twitter?
  • 80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    Aura101 wrote: »
    In my personal opinion we have a strong leader in Cameron.

    I've seen skin on custard that is stronger than David Cameron's leadership.
  • 80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    The same reason why those who don't want to pay tax for public services won't move to Somalia I guess.

    Ha ha! Imagine the likes of Jim Davidson, Phil Collins, Adele and Andrew Lloyd-Webber all moving there to escape from Labour! :D
  • TeeGeeTeeGee Posts: 5,772
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    Welfare is a safety net, not a lifestyle. Labour turkeys however will not vote for Xmas.
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    TeeGee wrote: »
    Welfare is a safety net, not a lifestyle. Labour turkeys however will not vote for Xmas.

    Yey more hard working people are needing the welfare safety net, than unemployed people people , as more in work people are claiming benefits than out of work people. And most benefits are means tested.
  • SnowStorm86SnowStorm86 Posts: 17,273
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    TeeGee wrote: »
    Welfare is a safety net, not a lifestyle. Labour turkeys however will not vote for Xmas.

    If you are on zero hour contract and the choice is starve to death or accept welfare, would that be lifestyle or safety net? This is the dilemma facing most claimants. It becomes increasingly obvious that the Tories (and evidently their supporters) are out of touch with the real world.
  • warlordwarlord Posts: 3,292
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    If you are on zero hour contract and the choice is starve to death or accept welfare, would that be lifestyle or safety net? This is the dilemma facing most claimants. It becomes increasingly obvious that the Tories (and evidently their supporters) are out of touch with the real world.

    In the real world, Gordon squandered so much money that there is no choice but to cut public spending. When are the Labour supporters going to realise that austerity is the result of voting for a reckless and irresponsible bunch of charlatans?
  • JasonJason Posts: 76,557
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    Sadly, I do think the Tories will be re-elected in may so the war on the poor will continue unabated for some time to come - and probably get worse.
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    warlord wrote: »
    What is the point of the poor and disabled? Why can't they emigrate to a socialist country instead of whining endlessly?

    Better add OAPs to your list as well because they gave DC a mauling the other day. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fpolitics%2F2015%2Fmar%2F24%2Fdavid-cameron-prime-minister-age-uk-speech-pensioners&ei=12UYVfzuFMuXasb0gLAD&usg=AFQjCNEYjy3oEGr8_a3HBs3tNmBX8taSUQ&bvm=bv.89381419,d.d2s. David Cameron ages five years in mauling by pensioners
  • 80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    warlord wrote: »
    In the real world, Gordon squandered so much money that there is no choice but to cut public spending. When are the Labour supporters going to realise that austerity is the result of voting for a reckless and irresponsible bunch of charlatans?

    So Labour spent... But what's Cameron & Osbourne's excuse? Two of the biggest charlatans ever known in UK politics.
  • warlordwarlord Posts: 3,292
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    tim59 wrote: »

    I was being sarcastic...I doubt if many of the people on welfare actually expect the government to hand over more and more money until it goes bust. I just wonder why Labour supporters are so keen to do so.
  • ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    THOMO wrote: »
    If Labour had another leader, I would be 100% more confident of the getting the most seats and even a majority. But with Ed Millaband as leader I'm not so sure. Labour would be miles ahead in the opinion polls with someone else and I voted for David Millaband in the Labour Party leadership elections. But I'm much less confident with Ed Millaband, and I fear the Consevatives will get the most seats in this election.
    Ian.

    I really don't understand why people have a problem with Milliband. It's his lack of bombast that's part of his appeal for me. The more I see of him, the more impressed I am. Cameron's just a lot of hot air.
  • Jim_McIntoshJim_McIntosh Posts: 5,866
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    Electra wrote: »
    I really don't understand why people have a problem with Milliband. It's his lack of bombast that's part of his appeal for me. The more I see of him, the more impressed I am. Cameron's just a lot of hot air.

    A lot of the question of who would be best as our PM comes down to what you think the PM should be like and, even more to the point, what qualities you think a PM needs - either from an idealistic point of view or even a more cynical one.
  • 80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    A lot of the question of who would be best as our PM comes down to what you think the PM should be like and, even more to the point, what qualities you think a PM needs - either from an idealistic point of view or even a more cynical one.

    We've had five years of failures from an out of touch, nasty and idealistic PM and his equally nasty cabinet. It's time they all went away to think about why Tory ideals fail everyone but the rich.
  • SteganStegan Posts: 5,039
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    Shameless Cameron, Osborne, Duncan Smith and the rest of this shower won't stop battering the poor and disabled if they are back in government after the GE. Why? Because they are the easiest targets to hit.

    It's a wonder they haven't already been taken to The Court of Human Rights for the damage they've done to many of the most vulnerable people in this country. Rises in people committing suicide, food banks, homelessness and zero hours contracts to name but a few of their crimes. Hopefully they will be booted out of number 10 come May,
  • thenetworkbabethenetworkbabe Posts: 45,618
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    Aura101 wrote: »
    In my personal opinion we have a strong leader in Cameron.
    Unfortunately for him he has shown zero compassion for what is happening to some of the needy in this country.
    Also having a sociopath in charge of welfare for the full 5 year term even though its been proven time and time again how incompetent Ian Duncan Smith is really was a massive boo boo.

    They will no longer be running the country by summer even though they could have so easily won the election !
    What a bunch of knobs

    Most voters don't care, they just know they are paying for it all . And for every story of ludicrous, inhumane, decisions inflicting misery, There's another story of someone living the life on public handouts, or families living in mansions at the expense of people in 2 by 2s. .

    On jobs, most people in one would approve of the changes to JSA - they have encouraged more people into work. And even if we have low waged and zero hours jobs for some, the calculation would be that even that is better than the levels of unemployment ravaging most of Europe and the US.

    On your last point, a more politically attuned government, with its nasty and irresponsible advisers in check, would have avoided disability, police and defence cuts - by relaxing its targets, getting some of the avoided tax back thats now going to be targtetted 5 years later, and cutting foreign aid and the incredible rising housing benefit budget. Things as you say would be easier - if they had taxed better, been more responsible, and avoided silly political measures like raising the aid budget. .

    But if you argue that you have to ask if Labour would have tackled tax voidance, after 13 years of not doing it - or rejected the increase in aid, or spent more on vital areas like on defence and policing , or produced less growth and less employment - and less money still to spend.
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