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Ebola panic in the UK

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http://www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/content/081071033-ebola-hysteria-blamed-stockport-school-turns-away-african-boy-9-leper

Looks like the early days of AIDS ignorance again and ignorance wins

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/08/ebola-fears-stockport-school-cancel-charity-visit
A school in north-west England has cancelled the visit of a charity worker and her son because of fears by parents that their children could be infected with Ebola.

Nine-year-old Kofi Mason-Sesay from Sierra Leone was due to study at St Simon’s Catholic primary school in Hazel Grove, Stockport, this month on a placement while his mother, Miriam, was fundraising for the charity EducAid, which runs a network of free schools for vulnerable youngsters in the west African country.

Last month, the school tried to reassure parents that the forthcoming visit posed no risk to the pupils of contracting the disease.

The school took advice from health chiefs in the borough and passed on Public Health England’s guidance that anyone travelling from affected countries who were free of symptoms was not infectious.

On Tuesday, the headteacher, Elizabeth Inman, wrote to parents to say that “with a very heavy heart” the school and its governors had taken “the pragmatic decision” to stop the visit despite Mason-Sesay and her son having been screened and given unrestricted movement in the UK.

She said: “I understand that there is a lot of misinformation about how Ebola is spread. A significant number of parents have been in touch with me to express their fears. As you know, I always listen to parents. Ebola cannot be spread as some parents have suggested.

Wonder what the mob will be like when there actually is a case in the UK. Sad!

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    JackKlugmanJackKlugman Posts: 5,362
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    Its not unreasonable for the parents to be worried. From the limited amount I have read this little boy and mum have come from a part of Africa that ebola is an epidemic only a short time before the child was enrolled at the school. The mum left because of the outbreak as I understand.

    Since ebola can take two weeks to become symptomatic there is a remote chance that they might have it. And besides the media is creating panic with all the ebola is right outside your front door in 16 days rubbish not the parents.

    How about this, lets fly over a man from west africa to come and work with you for a month. He shows no symptoms yet and after all you are so educated you would not be worried would you?
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    MrQuikeMrQuike Posts: 18,175
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    The advice seems flawed given that US Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan was free of symptoms and was not infectious. - 21 days confinement now for anyone who came into contact with him.

    Also no mob involved or was there?
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    http://www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/content/081071033-ebola-hysteria-blamed-stockport-school-turns-away-african-boy-9-leper

    Looks like the early days of AIDS ignorance again and ignorance wins

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/08/ebola-fears-stockport-school-cancel-charity-visit

    Wonder what the mob will be like when there actually is a case in the UK. Sad!

    Sensible precaution to defer this schools visit for the maximum incubation period of the virus but not necessarily to cancel it. The health advice provided as reported is clearly flawed, as symptoms can develop up to 21 days after infection. It's not ignorance at all as the inevitable delay (however small) before this is recognised and action taken can lead to the virus being transmitted to others. So, the mother and child stay away from work/school/whatever for 3 weeks while staying in the UK and then start work and school... simples.

    This disease is so deadly that for the moment, the precautionary principle applies here. Next year, if effective vaccines are developed or the epidemic subsides, it may be different. The comparison with AIDS is invalid for obvious reasons, if you think about it for a moment.
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    degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    Anyone else just sung the thread title along to Anarchy in the U.K.?
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    degsyhufc wrote: »
    Anyone else just sung the thread title along to Anarchy in the U.K.?

    Yes :blush:
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    US to screen for ebola at 5 airports

    Anyone care to point out the problem with doing it ON ARRIVAL.
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    US to screen for ebola at 5 airports

    Anyone care to point out the problem with doing it ON ARRIVAL.

    Because untill you are showing symptoms it is pointless, Symptoms of Ebola virus disease. The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days. Humans are not infectious until they develop symptoms. First symptoms are the sudden onset of fever fatigue, muscle pain, headache and sore throat.,
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    AndrueAndrue Posts: 23,364
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    US to screen for ebola at 5 airports

    Anyone care to point out the problem with doing it ON ARRIVAL.
    How do you propose they screen people before departure? They don't have any legal jurisdiction until the plane has entered US airspace.
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    tim59 wrote: »
    Because untill you are showing symptoms it is pointless, Symptoms of Ebola virus disease. The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days. Humans are not infectious until they develop symptoms. First symptoms are the sudden onset of fever fatigue, muscle pain, headache and sore throat.,
    Andrue wrote: »
    How do you propose they screen people before departure? They don't have any legal jurisdiction until the plane has entered US airspace.

    What about the other passengers on the plane? What about the people who have been standing in the queues with the Ebola "sufferer"?

    Based on what the methods of detection are it would appear that around 50% of the adult population should avoid flying into the US at a "certain time of the month".
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    What about the other passengers on the plane? What about the people who have been standing in the queues with the Ebola "sufferer"?

    Based on what the methods of detection are it would appear that around 50% of the adult population should avoid flying into the US at a "certain time of the month".

    The point i was making is people can show the first symptoms anytime from 2 days up to 21 days, so one person in the queues could be showing symptoms 2 days from being infected so are infectious, but others in the queues might be infected but showing no symptoms, but are still carrying the infection but might no show symptoms for 21 days so would show no signs of illness at the airport, so no risk to other people in the queues but will be infectious to other people as soon as symptoms show on day 21
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