Labour are up a very famous creek...
The fact of the matter is devolution has to apply EQUALLY to England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Labour have been led into a trap and now they can't get out without denying England the same rights as W/S/NI!
They could face massive losses in England!
How on earth did they let this happen!?
Labour have been led into a trap and now they can't get out without denying England the same rights as W/S/NI!
They could face massive losses in England!
How on earth did they let this happen!?
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However this serves Labour right ^_^
Finally! I'd all but given up hope that the question would ever be asked.
Word has it that a senior Labour MP was overheard saying this morning that the Tories had "played a blinder". They had basically put Labour in an impossible position. If Labour agreed to addressing the West Lothian question, they stood to lose a huge number of MP's, permanently. If they didn't, they would appear to be against the pledges they had made, and against fairness across the UK. Which ever way they turn, they lose bigtime.
Done up like a kipper.
I personally believe the answer is they simply didn't think it through. Their leader is a political idealist, not a strategist. Unfortunately, to survive in politics, you need skills in both areas and a team at your back to point out things you may have missed. Obviously, that hasn't happened.
How do we know that when Scotland gets it's powers a Labour government wont just forget about England.
Totally agree
Very well put ;-)
It would only be able to do that with a Blair-sized majority, which is probably unlikely in the next election. Plus it'd have to convince Labour MPs in England/Wales/NI to give preferrential treatment to Scotland. Milliband really should've seen this coming, but then he's never been the sharpest tool.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/20/whats-the-point-labour-party
"The tragedy of the Labour party is not so much the deficiencies of Ed Miliband's leadership (Labour must confront the 'Ed problem', 20 June), but the absence of any meaningful dialogue with the people it claims to represent. Rather than engaging in discussion with its traditional supporters, listening to them and taking their problems seriously, the party revolves around Westminster gossip, is in thrall to the media, and rewards the bright young things from Oxbridge who regard a seat in parliament as a career rather than a commitment to serve others"
These haven't got a clue when it comes to the "big stuff".
They are doing the rounds of the TV studios reading from Miliband's script on his constitution convention and being against quick fix's.
What Labour gave Scotland a devolved parliament.
Whilst letting Scottish mps vote on UK issues ie raising tuiton fees which would have absolutely no impact on their own constituents.
Bl--dy unfair and Labour have now been caught up with,
It could, I think recent events in certain Labour run local authorities are yet more evidence of their utter stupidity.
Marxist intellectuals like Milliband, have a deep seated hatred of the English
I thought that was his father Ralph?
However Labour are very much in a mess of their own making.
You're gonna restrict it to just Marxist intellectuals?
That is of course assuming that that perverse version of "devolution" is what happens rather than something better.
If they fail to follow up with their vow to Scotland, then the lose the little support left they have in Scotland. If they do follow up their vow, then they risk losing support in England and Wales.
As a Labour voter all my life, I have no sympathy with them.
They sold their souls a long time ago. They joined with a coalition of the right wing tories and the loyalists that are currently rioting in George Square in Glasgow. And they did so to screw the very people who voted for them in Scotland for generations.
Fantastic, at last we can get some equity.
It is going to become almost painful watching this whole thing unfurl.
Why do Labour hate England so much they would do this to us, and secondly why are they now banging on about splitting up England into regions. They didn't make Scotland, NI and Wales break into regions?
I agree. Remember Freedom of Information? Didn't think that through either.
Not to the rest of the UK it isn't. It should be devolution for everyone or no-one. I don't care about Labour's problems.