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To All The Anti Jim Forum Members - A Serious Question
RabidWolverine1
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I'll start by saying this isn't me looking for an argument or trying to insult you I just genuinely want to ask a question.
Do you dislike Jim because of what you "Know" or "Have Read" about Jim before he entered Celebrity Big Brother?
One of the things that has always annoyed me is when people choose a favourite within the first 1-3 Days and then for the rest of the series have blind faith in that person and will not change what they feel regardless of how that HM behaves and will automatically dislike everyone else.
Also works for people deciding who to dislike from the start and not really changing their minds.
Kind of Like Gina and Dexter last year they had entertaining moments for like 2 weeks and then for me showed themselves as nasty people (Gina) or Bad Gameplayers (Dexter) but on this forum whenever you tried to make the case most Gina and Dexter fans responded with "QUEEN GINA" or "DEXTER TO WIN FTW". Of course this is my opinion but I was
I ask all this because I didn't like what id heard about Jim Davidson before this house and thought he would be evicted quickly. But all I have seen from Jim is him handling himself in a respectful manner. Walking away from potential arguments and dealing with the likes of Linda & Luisa constantly making snipes and taking digs at him EVERY day regardless of what he does.
As well as carrying himself well there have been some really funny comedic moments (Like Jim the Russian) to provide entertainment.
Yes he has asked Luisa things like would she never iron a shirt for a man but I 100% REFUSE to believe a REAL feminist would be bothered by that kind of thing. My wife to be is a feminist (Openly) and the things she is more concerned about is equal rights throughout the world to Education and same pay at jobs...not whether she has to iron a shirt (Which she does for me and I iron her clothes too
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And as for The Frank Carson dressing room. Was it the smartest thing to say? No it wasn't. However that came after rant #327 by Linda at him and instead of him shouting the odds back all he did was play his trump card, I think a lot of people would have done a lot more in retaliation for a lot less. >:(
Im not here to say anyone who dislikes Jim is wrong or an idiot, im just not seeing why he has a lot of hate from some FM's unless it comes from pre conceptions of what you have ready or seen on reality TV without watching him live his life out 24/7
I just don't understand
Do you dislike Jim because of what you "Know" or "Have Read" about Jim before he entered Celebrity Big Brother?
One of the things that has always annoyed me is when people choose a favourite within the first 1-3 Days and then for the rest of the series have blind faith in that person and will not change what they feel regardless of how that HM behaves and will automatically dislike everyone else.
Also works for people deciding who to dislike from the start and not really changing their minds.
Kind of Like Gina and Dexter last year they had entertaining moments for like 2 weeks and then for me showed themselves as nasty people (Gina) or Bad Gameplayers (Dexter) but on this forum whenever you tried to make the case most Gina and Dexter fans responded with "QUEEN GINA" or "DEXTER TO WIN FTW". Of course this is my opinion but I was
I ask all this because I didn't like what id heard about Jim Davidson before this house and thought he would be evicted quickly. But all I have seen from Jim is him handling himself in a respectful manner. Walking away from potential arguments and dealing with the likes of Linda & Luisa constantly making snipes and taking digs at him EVERY day regardless of what he does.
As well as carrying himself well there have been some really funny comedic moments (Like Jim the Russian) to provide entertainment.
Yes he has asked Luisa things like would she never iron a shirt for a man but I 100% REFUSE to believe a REAL feminist would be bothered by that kind of thing. My wife to be is a feminist (Openly) and the things she is more concerned about is equal rights throughout the world to Education and same pay at jobs...not whether she has to iron a shirt (Which she does for me and I iron her clothes too
)And as for The Frank Carson dressing room. Was it the smartest thing to say? No it wasn't. However that came after rant #327 by Linda at him and instead of him shouting the odds back all he did was play his trump card, I think a lot of people would have done a lot more in retaliation for a lot less. >:(
Im not here to say anyone who dislikes Jim is wrong or an idiot, im just not seeing why he has a lot of hate from some FM's unless it comes from pre conceptions of what you have ready or seen on reality TV without watching him live his life out 24/7
I just don't understand
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Jim has come across well and Rylan has apparently confirmed that there are no nasty comments from Jim that have been left out = so we see once again it is the drip feed of Linda that has turned them against him but they are starting to wake up
Nadia was grumpy, didn't stop her winning BB5 (Arguably the biggest BB in terms of Media coverage)
Wouldn't you be a grumpy old git if you had some harridan on your back 24/7 for 3 weeks, and another lippy little madam screaming for hours at night to keep you awake ? I know damned well that I would be !
My mum is the same way. She's said she's never known what to make of him throughout his career.
However, I didn't agree with his "frank Carson's dressing room" low blow. I have no time for Linda but in my mind bringing that up was just another attempt at being provoking and he didn't need to say what he did at all.
succinct and to the point .
Rylan also mentioned that we see Linda snapping at Jim but what we don't see are all the little incidents building up to her snapping. Practically every housemate has mentioned that hes a wind up merchant and can be insulting...I don't think they're all wrong. Linda has bitched, and the housemates are beginning to realise that shes becoming obsessive about it and coming across as bitter, but they've all said at one time that hes been stirring it too. Liz, Lionel, Jasmine all mentioned their dislike of him and his not so nice characteristics, none of them are under 'Lindas spell'.
I don't hate Jim, I'm just bewildered why he is the clear favourite to win. I've found him grumpy, a wind-up merchant (one line comments to rile people, then walks away making the person look idiotic if they answer back, but him the peacemaker and the better man for walking away when many times he started it with his innuendo and snide remarks in the first place) and the incident you describe as 'not being very smart' I would word as being deliberately as malicious as you can be. To deliberately bring up an incident from someones past, involving their dead husband because you know its the most humiliating thing for them that you can do isn't just being 'silly'...it showed how low he can go. Linda has wound him up and shes paying the price - she'll be voted out first and booed. I haven't liked what I saw of in there nearly enough to warm to him as a favourite, and judging by the fact that most people who know him well say hes holding back a lot, I doubt very much I'd like him outside of the house, but I'm going what I see of him in there.
The guy is clear favourite to win - I find that much more surprising than the fact there are some out there that don't like him.
I would retort that Dappy kept on at him to eat telling him that he had eaten "Slop" himself.
As for the other thing so the dislike is based upon his time in Hell's Kitchen? So it was already carried into the house?
I was indifferent to him before he went in, i never took much notice of him, and now I can't stand him. I think he's a complete tosser!
BTW, I can't stand Linda either!
As for the rest of your post tl:dr!
Another one that doesn't watch properly. As for Hells Kitchen, he's been through therapy since then, but apparently he's not allowed to try and change according to some.
Im not gonna lie im a 25 year old that refuses to use or acknowledge "txt speak" even in Text's. Im not having a go just explaining this follow up question.
What does tl:dr mean
I thought that was forum speak not text speak? Anyway it means too long didn't read, sorry!
But he DIDN'T bring it up first, SHE did, first on her entrance VT and then to others in the house in his hearing, neither did he mention her husband, SHE did.
He has had quite a few laughs. Don't forget, Linda is the real grumpy one. She's the only person I know who's mouth turns down when she laughs. She is only laughing when she is being nasty about someone, and now it's Dappy's turn. Just because he is Jim's friend in there she is turning her nastiness onto him.
I didn't actually really have much of an opinion on him the first few days. He hit my radar with the Frank Carson's Dressing Room hit. I thought at that point he'd been starting some of the PA winding up of the house...all part of the game. But then came that cruel cut. He wasn't even man enough to deliver it himself. Cruel. Calculated. Completely out of order.
That was the one thing that tipped him over the edge for me. I detest him for that and not a thing he might good will ever change that for me. I can admit he has had some funny moments. I'd like to think some of the times he's shown some emotion it's been sincere.
Excellent post
Ahhh okay, thank you
LOL the Cambridge dictionary definition of harridan is:- an unpleasant woman, especially an older one, who is often angry and often tells other people what to do.
Its not about mentioning her husband in actual words, come on - he said more than enough for viewers to google and find out the story. He said enough for Linda to be aware of this too. He said it for NO OTHER REASON than to hurt her where he knew it would hurt her the most...and to upset her with the threat that he could leak the story at any time. He didn't even say it accidentaly in the heat of an arguement. The fact that you split hairs that he didn't mention 'husband' when he full well knew was letting the viewers know the story and knowing that Linda would be aware of this is just low class.
So would it have been any better if he had done a Linda and just constantly sniped at her for everything she said and every favour she did for him like making dinners
For me the Frank Carson Dressing Room was his trump card when he was pushed too far
I guess a lot of people would like one of the fence sitters to win witch could happen well I don't turn n every night to see paint dry granted thy are good looking but I want more than that from a housemate to win the only time the boring ones say anything is when thy are nominated jum has been given a hard time n there if he has been unhappy then I for ne cannot blame him I would guess that anyone that had that experience would feel down it's very true Jim did not like undue noise when trying yo sleep well more do I thy could quiet easily have stayed in the sitting room to play most people as thy mature learn how to enjoy themselfs without screaming like high school children thy can also enjoy themselfs with out disrespecting other people bb is not Gordy shore