Jimmy Saville Old "record club" shows
RelicsOfSeven
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A sensitive subject I know, but I'm just wondering if anyone who has old copies of these thinks there were things he said in them that might have been early indications of his true nature? I study psychology and would be fascinated to know?
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I do recall, as a teenager, finding his radio work nauseating because an air of narcissism and self-aggrandisement permeated every link. There were definitely signs of the narcissistic personality disorder which was one of several factors that probably contributed to his behaviour.
Actually the format of the show itself wasn't awful. It was pretty much the same as POTP. Don't forget that when this show aired in the 70s/80s there were fewer years to choose from and they broadcast up to three top tens a week. As a teenager I liked all the Uncle Ted nicking points off the listeners stuff but, like everybody else, I had no idea who the real Savile was.
I agree there's possibly more of Savile in Speakeasy and Savile's Travels than in the Old Record Club shows. A few OCR shows did the rounds at the time of his death and I have some clips but I've never heard any old recordings of the other shows and I guess they're unlikely to surface.
He did take part in the Radio 1 series Radio Radio in the early 80s but there's little in it that gives you a clue as to his true character. Of course in hindsight you can read more into it than most of us did at the time.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Savile it seems was given the benefit of the doubt enough times for multiple lifetimes.
Wow, a pioneer of voice tracking
https://audioboo.fm/boos/523006-jimmy-savile-old-record-club
This show was about the only chance you had in the seventies to hear the hits of previous years. The music was great, the idea was good. The presenter was the pits. It only survived as long as it did because there was very little competition.
There was an anecdote I heard him tell on the show shortly before it was ended about someone 'setting up a room for', and this is an exact quote- it stuck with me- 'a clandestine meeting with a young lady'. This was the 80s and back then presenters everywhere did sexist links, probably as an indirect way of reassuring listeners they weren't gay.
The phraseology rang alarm bells for me though for reasons I know know why.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing as someone above said but Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris.....I never thought either of them were very good. But back then there were so few TV and Radio channels that it allowed seriously disturbed people to become mainstream entertainers as that's what you grew up listening to and watching, so what we now regard as seriously unhealthy eccentricity was just back then the natural quirkiness of someone famous.
It was a case of whatever was on Radio 1 at that time would get massive listening figures.
Radio 2 was very firmly aimed at the wartime generation with it's MOR playlist and patronising presenters.
I don't know about the rest of the UK, but as far as I can remember the Scottish ILR's (in the '80's that amounted to 6 stations) had country music programmes at Sunday lunchtime.
As for Jimmy Saville, he was a miserable failure as a recording artist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou57_ZjqNMs
I did used to listen to Savile's old chart rundown show during the mid-late 80s, I was more interested in the music than anything he had to say. Most of the tripe he spoke between the records were generally (crap) puns made around the song titles and artists, eg "Who? You said, The Who I said" was one excruciating link that sticks in mind as I had it on a tape for a while.
Taking Forth as an example, in the early-80s its Sunday output was aimed largely at grannies in Granton and aunties in Aberlady - it was mostly easy-listening, oldies, the phone-in, country and Ken's Celidh with the only pop music on a Sunday aired in the afternoon. Around 1985 it started to improve when Forth realised that other people might want to listen in too.
I know what you are saying but don't you think there should be room for some specialist shows for this kind of music - even if it is not "cool".
As for Jimmy Savile, I don't think anyone would dare do what he did today.
That is what ruined the show. Any decent jock would have been able to give you some info on the band, chart history etc. All Savile did was talk b******s because he didn't know anything about music.
A link which springs to mind (it's on You Tube). He "played" Culture Club - Time Clock of the Heart.
Does your heart have a clock? Does it go tick, tock? *yodel*
I can't believe he was a member of MENSA. He sounded like the village idiot, in front of the microphone
Jo Whiley played a Eminem track one evening a few months ago. I couldn't tell you the name of the track as Stan is the only Eminem track that I know.
Whatever it was, it wasn't very good.
Does rap music have a place on Radio 2? It's a bit like asking if rock has a place.
You will hear Led Zep on Radio 2, but not a lot of Linkin Park.
Rappers Delight by the Sugarhill Gang and White Lines by Grandmaster Flash & Melle Mel get played (occasionally) on Radio 2
I'm guessing the track that JW played may have been from Eminem's first album which was released in 1996. (I'm no expert on Eminem btw, I just looked at Wikipedia).
Britpop tracks from 1996 get played on Radio 2 so should rap?
Apart from the two tracks mentioned above, absolutely not. Most rap is an abomination which should not pollute mainstream BBC radio. I'm with you Mike_1101!
1Xtra is the place for it !