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Are call centre workers 'thick'

mills705mills705 Posts: 556
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I go on another forum related to my work and help people as best I can.
There are a few people who also post on there that say some one that does my job is thick and is greasy kid!
I work in customer services in insurance and deal with a host of calls everyday.
I had to go through nearly 2 months training and sit exams every year to ensure competency.
So yeah really thick!
I can understand some sales or service people being like that for companies but not within financial services which requires specialist knowledge.
Why do call centres get a bad rep? I'm talking about inbound here
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    I bet the same people would be slating you if you were out of work and claiming benefits - ignore them.
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    mills705 wrote: »
    I go on another forum related to my work and help people as best I can.
    There are a few people who also post on there that say some one that does my job is thick and is greasy kid!
    I work in customer services in insurance and deal with a host of calls everyday.
    I had to go through nearly 2 months training and sit exams every year to ensure competency.
    So yeah really thick!
    I can understand some sales or service people being like that for companies but not within financial services which requires specialist knowledge.
    Why do call centres get a bad rep? I'm talking about inbound here

    Most people in most call-centres probably are a bit thick.

    Obviously there are exceptions to this. Being in the financial sector you have to be quite clever (or at least have your staff well trained) so you can continue to shaft/scam people.

    Regardless though, most call centres clearly aren't going to be supporting the financial services sector. There's a world of industry out there!
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    Joni MJoni M Posts: 70,225
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    In all walks of life there will be people who are not competent at their jobs, somehow they pass the interview process but then fail on delivery.

    In terms of call centres maybe some just aren't trained in all aspects of the business they are required to respond about, it's could be the employers fault to a large degree.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    I wouldn't describe anyone I have dealt with as thick.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    The problem is not that call centre workers are thick. The problem is that they HAVE to work within a strict set of guidelines that are handed down from people who lack any common sense.
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    darkjedimasterdarkjedimaster Posts: 18,621
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    Joni M wrote: »
    In all walks of life there will be people who are not competent at their jobs, somehow they pass the interview process but then fail on delivery.

    In terms of call centres maybe some just aren't trained in all aspects of the business they are required to respond about, it's could be the employers fault to a large degree.

    Exactly this,

    I have spoken to some very polite staff at BT Tech support in the past, that have no idea about equipment, but instead read from a generic script on a screen which is normally a load of rubbish. To make matters worse you often have to repeat yourself countless times, if you are put through to an Indian call center. So yes in a lot of cases it is down to the employers fault, for grabbing as much profit without giving the needed training.
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    pugamopugamo Posts: 18,039
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    No, I think the problem is that most of the population calling the call centres don't understand that employees must work within guidelines, and won't provide the necessary information to the call centre operative to allow them to help solve their problem, because they themselves are the thick ones and don't really know what they are ringing up to talk about in the first place.
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    mills705mills705 Posts: 556
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    I had a massive rant at the other people on the forum.
    I agree I guess my line of work is different to some. I feel I don't scam people either thanks for the dig. I try to help people as much as I can and make sure that what they have is right for them. Otherwise they could find themselves without what tey need.

    I agree a business needs to relax the reigns however companies within my sector are terrified about the FCA as they do not wish to be fined at all.
    For example we have one department which deals with complaints all day. Within this department people respond to complaints and if we have cased a complaint it is noted on a programme we have on our computers.
    Recently I had a complaint against me. A woman had called in to set up a new policy. My scripting for payments was clear and as per our terms. Her first direct debit bounced and she got charged etc for it. She complained and got the charges back as goodwill. This to me admits guilt within the company. My manager disregarded it!
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    rfonzorfonzo Posts: 11,772
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    I think that is quite a sweeping statement to make about people.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,664
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    The problem is not that call centre workers are thick. The problem is that they HAVE to work within a strict set of guidelines that are handed down from people who lack any common sense.

    They also usually have near-impossible targets to attain, with regular 'micro-managing' in place to put them under relentless pressure. The BBC series 'The Call Centre' was hugely misleading, you don't get big, cuddly characters like Nev running 99% of these places, you get horrible jobsworths who check on toilet breaks and listen to calls expressly looking for ways to catch their colleagues out...
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    mills705 wrote: »
    I had a massive rant at the other people on the forum.
    I agree I guess my line of work is different to some. I feel I don't scam people either thanks for the dig. I try to help people as much as I can and make sure that what they have is right for them. Otherwise they could find themselves without what tey need.

    I agree a business needs to relax the reigns however companies within my sector are terrified about the FCA as they do not wish to be fined at all.
    For example we have one department which deals with complaints all day. Within this department people respond to complaints and if we have cased a complaint it is noted on a programme we have on our computers.
    Recently I had a complaint against me. A woman had called in to set up a new policy. My scripting for payments was clear and as per our terms. Her first direct debit bounced and she got charged etc for it. She complained and got the charges back as goodwill. This to me admits guilt within the company. My manager disregarded it!

    Oh come now, we all know how crooked the financial services sector is ;-)
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    November_RainNovember_Rain Posts: 9,145
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    rfonzo wrote: »
    I think that is quite a sweeping statement to make about people.

    Yep, this.
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    pugamo wrote: »
    No, I think the problem is that most of the population calling the call centres don't understand that employees must work within guidelines, and won't provide the necessary information to the call centre operative to allow them to help solve their problem, because they themselves are the thick ones and don't really know what they are ringing up to talk about in the first place.

    No, I don't think so.

    Having worked in an outbound call-centre (the only saving grace was that it wasn't sales) I had to keep to a rough script and I did well, but I was working with people who made blocks of chalk look intelligent.

    They're the sort of places that naturally attracts a high-turnover of very young, inexperienced, unqualified dim-wits.

    I would have been about 22 at the time and I was one of the oldest there (apart from a few supervisors) :D
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    mills705mills705 Posts: 556
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    Hypnodisc wrote: »
    Oh come now, we all know how crooked the financial services sector is ;-)

    People have successfully sued my company for not being made aware of what cover they have by agents or a company.
    Best example of this would be: a courtesy car for your car insurance. Do you get one when your vehicle has been written off?
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    mills705mills705 Posts: 556
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    kaybee15 wrote: »
    They also usually have near-impossible targets to attain, with regular 'micro-managing' in place to put them under relentless pressure. The BBC series 'The Call Centre' was hugely misleading, you don't get big, cuddly characters like Nev running 99% of these places, you get horrible jobsworths who check on toilet breaks and listen to calls expressly looking for ways to catch their colleagues out...
    Nev was well a character! Thankfully my place is not like that at all!
    We do have calls listened to quite regularly!
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    mills705 wrote: »
    People have successfully sued my company for not being made aware of what cover they have by agents or a company.
    Best example of this would be: a courtesy car for your car insurance. Do you get one when your vehicle has been written off?

    You aren't helping your own case saying things like this :D

    I repeat, the sector is crooked.
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    mills705mills705 Posts: 556
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    How's it a scam?
    I can see why they sued
    I notice you haven't answered my question..... The answer is normally no as you get the courtesy car when the vehicle is in for an insured repair. So if someone has a write off and essentially has to have a car for work then they aren't going to be happy if they don't have a car!
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    mills705 wrote: »
    How's it a scam?
    I can see why they sued
    I notice you haven't answered my question..... The answer is normally no as you get the courtesy car when the vehicle is in for an insured repair. So if someone has a write off and essentially has to have a car for work then they aren't going to be happy if they don't have a car!

    My only point was that the sector is crooked.

    You replied by stating that your own company had been sued! :D Brilliant!

    That comes across as pretty damning ya'know when you're trying to say you aren't crooked ;-). Never become a lawyer.. or work in public relations.. :D


    And I didn't answer the question because to be quite frank.. I couldn't care less? :confused:
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    riceutenriceuten Posts: 5,876
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    mills705 wrote: »
    I go on another forum related to my work and help people as best I can. There are a few people who also post on there that say some one that does my job is thick and is greasy kid! I work in customer services in insurance and deal with a host of calls everyday. I had to go through nearly 2 months training and sit exams every year to ensure competency. So yeah really thick! I can understand some sales or service people being like that for companies but not within financial services which requires specialist knowledge. Why do call centres get a bad rep? I'm talking about inbound here

    It's not all call centres and it's not all call centre workers - there are some very good ones, and some very competent staff out there. They have a bad rep because of the bad ones, for banks who don't care, for grasping transport and utility companies who farm the service out to the lowest bidder in the Phils or India, and from outbound high pressure sales calls - people don't disassociate the two when talking about them. And yes, I've spoken to financial services staff who have either been remarkably thick, or who have had training and learnt nothing - I had one investment where the call centre worker was insistent I send him my passport - nothing else would do - until he would release the funds into my account. Two minutes with his boss - bang - the money was there. That's either bad training or crap systems. Both of which are fairly common.
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    LyceumLyceum Posts: 3,399
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    I assume it's because most people have negative experience with call centres.

    You call. Tell them something. They say all the right things. Nothing happens. Yo all again. Explain the problems again. There should be notes on the account. Their isn't. You have to go over everything again. Then again the next time. And so on until you get through to someone competent.

    I've had the same with call centres for BT. O2. Tesco. Argos. Virgin media. Sky. To name a few.

    Do I think they're thick? No. Not at all. Do I think the majority of them can't be bothered and just say what the person calling wants to hear to get them off the line ? From my experience yes.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 560
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    Well obviously they are not. I've worked in a call centre as a desperate way to accummulate cash over a summer whilst at University and I would consider myself pretty intelligent and well spoken.

    Whilst there, I was supervised by people who probably thought algebra was the next big thing at Ann Summers.
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    dd68dd68 Posts: 17,841
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    Sweeping generalisation statements are usually badly informed, I don't think being 'thick' is part of the person specification
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,133
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    I worked in a call centre for 7 years, and within I encountered many dimwits .

    Mostly Team Leaders :D
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    riceutenriceuten Posts: 5,876
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    klendathu wrote: »
    I worked in a call centre for 7 years, and within I encountered many dimwits .

    Mostly Team Leaders :D
    The reason being is that loyalty. preference, and blind obedience, rather than creativity are used to promote people within the companies concerned
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    rfonzo wrote: »
    I think that is quite a sweeping statement to make about people.

    I agree. I've phoned a few call centres, BT, Tesco and my insurance company LV and they have been top class.

    I suppose it's down to attitude of the people who phone. I suppose many are angry. I just ask the questions, some advisors don't know the answers, understandable really as they don't all know everything.
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