'Take bare boobs out of the Sun' urge Guides

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-22064433

Leave it to a youngster (yes, i know i sound old..) to make the argument for removing Page 3 completely sensible and rational.
"Children shouldn't grow up thinking that this is the norm and that it is right. Young girls shouldn't grow up thinking that they will achieve more by being sexually objectified," added Katie.

I know there's the never ending argument that "they're just boobs" and "nothing that you don't see on a beach" but when you read the above comment, it just makes perfect sense really.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not turning in to a prude or anything like that, but I do think that anything that can be done to encourage young girls to achieve something meaningful is a good thing.
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  • LykkieLiLykkieLi Posts: 6,644
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    What do the Boy Scouts say about it?
  • AnitaSAnitaS Posts: 4,079
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    I thought the Sun was getting rid of page 3 anyway? They only need to remove pages 1 - 2 and 4 - 76 after that, and the job's a good 'un.
  • RandomSallyRandomSally Posts: 7,072
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    I agree with them! Sunburnt boobs are painful!!!!!!


    Oh....... ;)
  • James FrederickJames Frederick Posts: 53,184
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    Personally I agree it's about time that kind of thing was stopped
  • Richie1001Richie1001 Posts: 8,217
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    Down with this sort of thing!
  • late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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    LykkieLi wrote: »
    What do the Boy Scouts say about it?

    "Leave bare boobs in the Sun'
  • JasonJason Posts: 76,557
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    LykkieLi wrote: »
    What do the Boy Scouts say about it?

    Probably something that sounds like an episode of Beavis and Butthead on a loop ..

    I think if girls want to get into modelling then that's fine, but why not have it as a second or third option behind a 'real' career?
  • LykkieLiLykkieLi Posts: 6,644
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    Probably something that sounds like an episode of Beavis and Butthead on a loop ..
    Lol yeah, u huh, duh!

    I think if girls want to get into modelling then that's fine, but why not have it as a second or third option behind a 'real' career?


    Maybe they do it out of pity, some males never get to see boobs otherwise. Those without puters that is.
  • BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    LykkieLi wrote: »
    What do the Boy Scouts say about it?

    Boobs, lol.
  • finkfink Posts: 2,364
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    There's so much free smut on the internet now, that the daily inclusion of a topless model on Page 3 of the Sun seems redundant these days, and anachronistic.
  • JasonJason Posts: 76,557
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    LykkieLi wrote: »
    Maybe they do it out of pity, some males never get to see boobs otherwise. Those without puters that is.

    They most likely do it because they look at someone like Jordan and think it's an instant route to fame and fortune. But then I remember watching a documentary about the Samantha Bond modelling agency some years ago and she said to one of the plethora of Jordan clones something to the tune of "My dear, that game has already been played and it's already been won", which I think was rather apt.
    fink wrote: »
    There's so much free smut on the internet now, that the daily inclusion of a topless model on Page 3 of the Sun seems redundant these days, and anachronistic.

    I don't think the argument is the porn element of it, more that it encourages young girls to think that taking their clothes off is the way to success and fortune.

    (And again, I know how that makes me sound :rolleyes:)
  • User68571User68571 Posts: 3,901
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    I'd like to see page 3 removed tbh, it's all abit 1970's and tacky. I'm far from a prude but I do agree girls shouldn't be encouraged to think sexually objectifying themselves is the way forward. That said I wonder if the readership of The Sun have the IQ to actually understand the 'objectifying' argument.... I have my doubts!

    True story - When I was on holiday in Florida as a teenager (14) I saw The Sun in a shop, I picked it up to have a look at the sports results and immediately the shop owner came sprinting from behind the counter and snatched it out of my hands. He started going ballistic asking why I was looking at pornogrpahy and saying I couldn't even look at it until I was 21. He was absolutely amazed when we explained to him that my (then) 5 yr old sister could buy it in the UK no questions asked. I think that reflects more on the prudish nature of the USA than the page 3 argument, but interesting differing viewpoint all the same.
  • Glawster2002Glawster2002 Posts: 15,211
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-22064433

    Leave it to a youngster (yes, i know i sound old..) to make the argument for removing Page 3 completely sensible and rational.



    I know there's the never ending argument that "they're just boobs" and "nothing that you don't see on a beach" but when you read the above comment, it just makes perfect sense really.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not turning in to a prude or anything like that, but I do think that anything that can be done to encourage young girls to achieve something meaningful is a good thing.

    But then isn't the next logical step to ban topless sunbathing using the same argument? All in the name of "child protection", of course.

    I don't read The sun so the removal of the topless model on Page 3 doesn't bother me, however I see this more as a step by a very vocal minority determined to push this country in to becoming far more prudish. Something that is already happening.
  • LykkieLiLykkieLi Posts: 6,644
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    This country isn't prudish enough Glawster.
  • Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    And what of the Daily Star? (Or is that not owned by Murdoch, so can be ignored for the moment ;) ?)
  • User68571User68571 Posts: 3,901
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    No....banning topless sunbathing is something different, as always it's about 'context'

    A person on a beach topless sunbathing is just that....sunbathing

    A girl getting her boobs out in the paper is doing it on the grounds of sexual attraction..therefore sexual objectification

    See the difference??
  • Glawster2002Glawster2002 Posts: 15,211
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    LykkieLi wrote: »
    This country isn't prudish enough Glawster.

    How "prudish" would you like it to get? :eek:
  • finkfink Posts: 2,364
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    I don't think the argument is the porn element of it, more that it encourages young girls to think that taking their clothes off is the way to success and fortune.

    (And again, I know how that makes me sound :rolleyes:)

    I know, I get that point, but my point was that, even for the non-prudish pron lovers such as me, that it just seems completely redundant anyway. I've enjoyed having a look at the girls on Page 3 in the past as I've been growing up, I admit, but part of that was probably because real porn was a bit harder to get hold of as a kid. Not any more it isn't, so the whole thing seems pointless.
  • 00tommo00tommo Posts: 2,208
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    Richie1001 wrote: »
    Down with this sort of thing!

    Careful now :D
  • Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    fink wrote: »
    I know, I get that point, but my point was that, even for the non-prudish pron lovers such as me, that it just seems completely redundant anyway. I've enjoyed having a look at the girls on Page 3 in the past as I've been growing up, I admit, but part of that was probably because real porn was a bit harder to get hold of as a kid. Not any more it isn't, so the whole thing seems pointless.

    Not for much longer possibly.
  • LykkieLiLykkieLi Posts: 6,644
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    How "prudish" would you like it to get? :eek:

    Topless sunbathing isn't as seedy as porn.
    We sexualise our youngsters too early in the west.
  • Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    But then isn't the next logical step to ban topless sunbathing using the same argument? All in the name of "child protection", of course.

    No, the next logical step is to go after magazines like Nuts and Zoo or whatever.

    The campaigner hinted that she has been grander ideas a while back.
  • Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    LykkieLi wrote: »
    Topless sunbathing isn't as seedy as porn.
    We sexualise our youngsters too early in the west.

    So it is seedy?
  • InMyArmsInMyArms Posts: 50,792
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    Children shouldn't be reading propaganda for the ignorant like The Sun anyway.
  • LykkieLiLykkieLi Posts: 6,644
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    So it is seedy?

    I don't think so, no.
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