Don't pretend it doesn't go both ways though, if I hear Graham Norton say "we" when referring to UK once more...
The rule applies the other way - Graham Norton would be fully Irish and partly British....until he switched electoral register and registered for tax purposes in the UK.
This isn't me arguing but I'm intrigues to know why you feel more Irish than British?
Just because I feel strongly the opposite way so trying to gain some sort of understanding for the Irish identified folks
Just being brought up with Irish way of life, Love Irish music. Irish dance. I think my personality is that of an Irish person. I think it's just in me, I feel comfortable round Irish people than I do round British(who I get on well with). I know there are other posters on quoting facts about electoral rolls and all the rest and they can do it to their hearts content but ye can't make someone feel something that they're not (don't know if explained that too well) and I get you feel the same on the opposite side. Thanks for asking btw maybe you can tell me about your Britishness sometime.
Don't pretend it doesn't go both ways though, if I hear Graham Norton say "we" when referring to UK once more...
Again...complicated...
Norton has stated that he felt "out of place" having been raised Protestant in a mostly Catholic Republic of Ireland, especially during the height of The Troubles. Norton took part in the TV programme Who Do You Think You Are?, to trace his ancestry. It was discovered that his family were originally planters sent over from England to take over Irish land. Some members of his family had fought for the British monarchy during the Irish Rebellion of 1798 and taken part in the Carnew massacre. Another member of his family was later killed in battle by the United Irishmen. Norton said he was comforted to find out that his family had resided in Ireland for generations.
The rule applies the other way - Graham Norton would be fully Irish and partly British....until he switched electoral register and registered for tax purposes in the UK.
I know there's parts of Cork more British than London but how would Graham Norton be partly British before switching electoral register? I paid taxes in France, it didn't make me part French.
Just being brought up with Irish way of life, Love Irish music. Irish dance. I think my personality is that of an Irish person. I think it's just in me, I feel comfortable round Irish people than I do round British(who I get on well with). I know there are other posters on quoting facts about electoral rolls and all the rest and they can do it to their hearts content but ye can't make someone feel something that they're not (don't know if explained that too well) and I get you feel the same on the opposite side. Thanks for asking btw maybe you can tell me about your Britishness sometime.
It actually must be quiet baffling for you to be asked to explain your Irishness when you were born and bred in Ireland?
I know there's parts of Cork more British than London but how would Graham Norton be partly British before switching electoral register? I paid taxes in France, it didn't make me part French.
We won't go mad... Bandon would be still the most "protestant" town but I can assure you its nothing like London.
We won't go mad... Bandon would be still the most "protestant" town but I can assure you its nothing like London.
Considering how cosmopolitan London is would saying parts of Cork are more British be really that much of a stretch?
Having said that it's not a clear cut issue anyway, there were people celebrating the defeats of Paddy Barnes and Michael Conlan in last year's Olympics because they had the temerity to box for Ireland despite the rules in place that didn't allow them to box for team GB.
Just being brought up with Irish way of life, Love Irish music. Irish dance. I think my personality is that of an Irish person. I think it's just in me, I feel comfortable round Irish people than I do round British(who I get on well with). I know there are other posters on quoting facts about electoral rolls and all the rest and they can do it to their hearts content but ye can't make someone feel something that they're not (don't know if explained that too well) and I get you feel the same on the opposite side. Thanks for asking btw maybe you can tell me about your Britishness sometime.
Ah yes, I agree it's a lot in the way you were brought up. This would mostly be the case for me too (except with me it's obviously things geared towards Britain)
I won't pretend I 'get' you any further than that though
Supposedly yes! I don't personally know any Irish citizens who have ever bothered though...but Irish citizens CAN for instance go to London and claim British welfare benefits! I mean they always could, even before the EU
Considering how cosmopolitan London is would saying parts of Cork are more British be really that much of a stretch?
Having said that it's not a clear cut issue anyway, there were people celebrating the defeats of Paddy Barnes and Michael Conlan in last year's Olympics because they had the temerity to box for Ireland despite the rules in place that didn't allow them to box for team GB.
No I just don't think you could call Cork city/county British in any capacity ...Its just not and go two miles west of Bandon and you are into traditional west Cork guerrilla country.
Don't think Conlan/Barnes would particularly care, they are now enshrined in Irish sporting history forever, no one can ever take that away from them.
Ah yes, I agree it's a lot in the way you were brought up. This would mostly be the case for me too (except with me it's obviously things geared towards Britain)
I won't pretend I 'get' you any further than that though
Supposedly yes! I don't personally know any Irish citizens who have ever bothered though...but Irish citizens CAN for instance go to London and claim British welfare benefits! I mean they always could, even before the EU
Which is where the "Kilburn Irish" have come from
I need to be British citizen to apply for lots of jobs in the UK ... look needs be in recessionary times
No I just don't think you could call Cork city/county British in any capacity ...Its just not and go two miles west of Bandon and you are into traditional west Cork guerrilla country.
Don't think Conlan/Barnes would particularly care, they are now enshrined in Irish sporting history forever, no one can ever take that away from them.
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IF I got out alive:D
Make sure you get the "Jon Joe" sat nav fitted before going to the port:D
http://youtu.be/yoNNi6NuKbU
Don't pretend it doesn't go both ways though, if I hear Graham Norton say "we" when referring to UK once more...
The rule applies the other way - Graham Norton would be fully Irish and partly British....until he switched electoral register and registered for tax purposes in the UK.
Just being brought up with Irish way of life, Love Irish music. Irish dance. I think my personality is that of an Irish person. I think it's just in me, I feel comfortable round Irish people than I do round British(who I get on well with). I know there are other posters on quoting facts about electoral rolls and all the rest and they can do it to their hearts content but ye can't make someone feel something that they're not (don't know if explained that too well) and I get you feel the same on the opposite side. Thanks for asking btw maybe you can tell me about your Britishness sometime.
Suprisingly enough, the latter is surrounded by legal frameworks and laws...
Again...complicated...
I know there's parts of Cork more British than London but how would Graham Norton be partly British before switching electoral register? I paid taxes in France, it didn't make me part French.
Because as an Irish citizen, under the 1921 Anglo-Irish treaty HE too has a right to "dual citizenship"...
It's not just people born in Northern Ireland - people born in the Republic have it too! :eek:
Considering how cosmopolitan London is would saying parts of Cork are more British be really that much of a stretch?
Having said that it's not a clear cut issue anyway, there were people celebrating the defeats of Paddy Barnes and Michael Conlan in last year's Olympics because they had the temerity to box for Ireland despite the rules in place that didn't allow them to box for team GB.
Ah yes, I agree it's a lot in the way you were brought up. This would mostly be the case for me too (except with me it's obviously things geared towards Britain)
I won't pretend I 'get' you any further than that though
thanks for answering though
ps. whereabouts are you from?
Supposedly yes! I don't personally know any Irish citizens who have ever bothered though...but Irish citizens CAN for instance go to London and claim British welfare benefits! I mean they always could, even before the EU
Which is where the "Kilburn Irish" have come from
LOl, you do not need one, the last elections here had a record 65% turnout of 2.3 million people, there are only 1.8 million people in the country:D
Don't think Conlan/Barnes would particularly care, they are now enshrined in Irish sporting history forever, no one can ever take that away from them.
I know. You can't really write "just me"
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why are corkonians called "westbrits" then?
Be interesting to know if under EU laws they CAN actually say that...!