The reaction tells us that JOB must be doing something right. In a way...... he is a successful WUM with a much larger audience than a small corner of Cyberspace.
IMO the biggest mistake made by his critics is to think that the term Champagne Socialist is an insult.
It is not!
For example....when the target is a Left Wing Shadow Minister, the critic is simply pointing out that a person who has considerable wealth has made life decisions which indicate that they may not be a greedy and selfish scumbag.
Does anyone know what on Earth the caller Brian on Nick Abbot is talking about!.
Nick had given the analogy of the the UK getting involved in Iraq was like us wading into a pub fight. Brian suggested that it was more like us going to another pub where a fight was already taking place and, even if we won the fight, there would be future repercussions with the protagonists returning to 'our' pub in order to wreak revenge.
Nick countered by saying that the world seems so small now, that we're all in the same 'pub', going on to say that the USA is the world's policeman, and we're their police dog.
I hope that clarifies it - I haven't listened to the podcast (so I may have got the wrong caller!), but is just my recollection from last night.
p.s. Unlike Nick, I tended to agree with the caller.
The reaction tells us that JOB must be doing something right. In a way...... he is a successful WUM with a much larger audience than a small corner of Cyberspace.
IMO the biggest mistake made by his critics is to think that the term Champagne Socialist is an insult.
It is not!
For example....when the target is a Left Wing Shadow Minister, the critic is simply pointing out that a person who has considerable wealth has made life decisions which indicate that they may not be a greedy and selfish scumbag.
The reaction tells us that JOB must be doing something right. In a way...... he is a successful WUM
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Hardly
He genuinely expects to be taken seriously as a political commentator Those callers who do dare suggest otherwise are cut off. He's way to up his own backside to be so creative as to be a wum .Thats giving the man way too much credit .
It really is unfathomable as to why Brian has gone to Edinburgh. He has absolutely zero sense of humour and doubt he will even chortle once while he is north of the border. What is the purpose of his visit?
By the way, one of the callers to Nick Abbot last night called him a 'journalist'. Nick immediately interrupted the caller and said, most emphatically, that he was not a journalist but was, in fact, a talk show host.
I wish more presenters on LBC were as honest.
By the way, one of the callers to Nick Abbot last night called him a 'journalist'. Nick immediately interrupted the caller and said, most emphatically, that he was not a journalist but was, in fact, a talk show host.
I wish more presenters on LBC were as honest.
I do like the self deprecating modesty and honesty of NA .
I am not comparing JOB to George Galloway, but I do want to say this.
When Galloway was on Talk Sport he would demolish caller after caller with the passion of his argument, well constructed points, and of course his clear (and arguably unfair) advantage as the experienced and canny debater. But then he would cut off the next caller in his tracks...perhaps to preserve his (Galloway's) blood pressure.
He would then be accused on air of cutting off callers who don't agree with him!
It was always clear to me that Galloway did not fear any caller - no matter who or what they were - and actually relished the more difficult calls.
I think that JOB relishes calls from intelligent people with an opposing argument. When he was urging Galloway to phone the show a few days ago - I was not in any way surprised.
Just because a controversial and aggressive talk show host does not attempt to humiliate every single caller, I don't assume that they "can't".
BTW I was very impressed with the recent poster on this thread who pointed out that we are a very disparate lot who share something in common - We all love to listen to LBC. Fortunately I am just about intelligent enough to understand that there may be some link between Political outlook and our POV with regard to certain presenters.......including JOB.
By the way, one of the callers to Nick Abbot last night called him a 'journalist'. Nick immediately interrupted the caller and said, most emphatically, that he was not a journalist but was, in fact, a talk show host.
I wish more presenters on LBC were as honest.
He' s done that before with callers. He always corrects them if they say he's a journalist.
Quite rightly so. He was after all an old fashioned 'disc jockey' who sort of fell into talk radio.
Of the regulars I think the only proper journalists are NF, JOB, JHB , AP , PH and now Stig Abel
I think that's one of the issues that irks JOB the most . Wasn't he primarily a showbiz reporter and then a games reviewer ?? He is desperate to be a political big hitter and it's not happening. All the others have proper journalistic credentials.
. Fortunately I am just about intelligent enough to understand that there may be some link between Political outlook and our POV with regard to certain presenters.......including JOB.
I don't think that theorising holds much validity .A prominent OB sympathiser I believe is mildly blue and a lot of lampooners appear to be more of a left wing persuasion , judging by comments made on other non Brian issues.
We all like Red Ken - or certainly he seems to be relatively criticism free - so it appears if anything it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the guy himself .
I don't think that theorising holds much validity .A prominent OB sympathiser I believe is mildly blue and a lot of lampooners appear to be more of a left wing persuasion , judging by comments made on other non Brian issues.
We all like Red Ken - or certainly he seems to be relatively criticism free - so it appears if anything it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the guy himself .
Indeed Reg. I enjoy Ken and David, George Galloway was excellent on TalkSPORT. It's not really politics that ensures Brian gets so much criticism. It's his pomposity, smugness, rudeness and general hypocrisy.
It really is unfathomable as to why Brian has gone to Edinburgh. He has absolutely zero sense of humour and doubt he will even chortle once while he is north of the border. What is the purpose of his visit?
Nick had given the analogy of the the UK getting involved in Iraq was like us wading into a pub fight. Brian suggested that it was more like us going to another pub where a fight was already taking place and, even if we won the fight, there would be future repercussions with the protagonists returning to 'our' pub in order to wreak revenge.
Nick countered by saying that the world seems so small now, that we're all in the same 'pub', going on to say that the USA is the world's policeman, and we're their police dog.
I hope that clarifies it - I haven't listened to the podcast (so I may have got the wrong caller!), but is just my recollection from last night.
p.s. Unlike Nick, I tended to agree with the caller.
Thanks Charlie, the bit I heard, he was talking how Pyramids were measured in inches and about a old Chinese proverb, so maybe a different caller on the same topic...
Nick Abbot is an excellent presenter and one of my favourite all-time presenters on LBC.
Mine too.
I compare Nick to the presenters/DJs of the great days of offshore radio, when it was exciting to listen to, the presenter had a personality and you couldn't wait for them to come on-air. I still get that with Nick.
I'm enjoying John Stapleton both this week and when he stood in for JHB & Iain Dale. We have been spoilt to have him cover so much. Hes a quality broadcaster. My only criticism is he has one too many guests on - I don't mind the odd guest, but this seems to be at the expense of callers. Having said that, I do feel more informed by it!
Indeed Reg. I enjoy Ken and David, George Galloway was excellent on TalkSPORT. It's not really politics that ensures Brian gets so much criticism. It's his pomposity, smugness, rudeness and general hypocrisy.
All of which applies to Galloway in my opinion. His staple in a debate where the caller is making a valid point is to lead the conversation to a point where he use the accusation of racism, leading to cutting the caller off as he will not 'deal with these people'.
I doubt Brian would be able to get up in the morning without his regular routine of sneering at callers to his radio show in an unbearably pompous manner either...when he stops, I am sure that Brian-baiting would stop on the thread. Unlikely ever to happen.
Quite. Also I'm sure Gobber would agree with Wilde that, "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." Being ignored is what his type hates most.
Thanks Charlie, the bit I heard, he was talking how Pyramids were measured in inches and about a old Chinese proverb, so maybe a different caller on the same topic...
Oh, OK - fair enough! Yes, the pyramid comment related to the fact that for every thousand inches, you had to add an inch. This made all of the calculations work out perfectly, whereas before that they'd been trying to measure in metrics.
The Chinese proverb was (apparently) 'You have no problems'.
Total recall!
I'm enjoying John Stapleton both this week and when he stood in for JHB & Iain Dale. We have been spoilt to have him cover so much. Hes a quality broadcaster. My only criticism is he has one too many guests on - I don't mind the odd guest, but this seems to be at the expense of callers. Having said that, I do feel more informed by it!
He genuinely expects to be taken seriously as a political commentator Those callers who do dare suggest otherwise are cut off. He's way to up his own backside to be so creative as to be a wum .Thats giving the man way too much credit .
Of course JO'B is a WUM. Most of the LBC presenters.play the same game eg Nick F, Duncan B, Julia HB, Petrie H etc...they all do the same kind of thing, to bait the listeners. The real beef that you and a few others have is that he isn't a Tory supporter and publicly derides UKIP..:o
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IMO the biggest mistake made by his critics is to think that the term Champagne Socialist is an insult.
It is not!
For example....when the target is a Left Wing Shadow Minister, the critic is simply pointing out that a person who has considerable wealth has made life decisions which indicate that they may not be a greedy and selfish scumbag.
Nick countered by saying that the world seems so small now, that we're all in the same 'pub', going on to say that the USA is the world's policeman, and we're their police dog.
I hope that clarifies it - I haven't listened to the podcast (so I may have got the wrong caller!), but is just my recollection from last night.
p.s. Unlike Nick, I tended to agree with the caller.
"those people who think it is OK to spend £6 on a cup of coffee and a Beagle.....>:( "
Well said.
Hardly
He genuinely expects to be taken seriously as a political commentator Those callers who do dare suggest otherwise are cut off. He's way to up his own backside to be so creative as to be a wum .Thats giving the man way too much credit .
Charlie Brown would probably agree with that.
I wish more presenters on LBC were as honest.
I do like the self deprecating modesty and honesty of NA .
Makes a change
When Galloway was on Talk Sport he would demolish caller after caller with the passion of his argument, well constructed points, and of course his clear (and arguably unfair) advantage as the experienced and canny debater. But then he would cut off the next caller in his tracks...perhaps to preserve his (Galloway's) blood pressure.
He would then be accused on air of cutting off callers who don't agree with him!
It was always clear to me that Galloway did not fear any caller - no matter who or what they were - and actually relished the more difficult calls.
I think that JOB relishes calls from intelligent people with an opposing argument. When he was urging Galloway to phone the show a few days ago - I was not in any way surprised.
Just because a controversial and aggressive talk show host does not attempt to humiliate every single caller, I don't assume that they "can't".
BTW I was very impressed with the recent poster on this thread who pointed out that we are a very disparate lot who share something in common - We all love to listen to LBC. Fortunately I am just about intelligent enough to understand that there may be some link between Political outlook and our POV with regard to certain presenters.......including JOB.
He' s done that before with callers. He always corrects them if they say he's a journalist.
Quite rightly so. He was after all an old fashioned 'disc jockey' who sort of fell into talk radio.
Of the regulars I think the only proper journalists are NF, JOB, JHB , AP , PH and now Stig Abel
I think that's one of the issues that irks JOB the most . Wasn't he primarily a showbiz reporter and then a games reviewer ?? He is desperate to be a political big hitter and it's not happening. All the others have proper journalistic credentials.
I don't think that theorising holds much validity .A prominent OB sympathiser I believe is mildly blue and a lot of lampooners appear to be more of a left wing persuasion , judging by comments made on other non Brian issues.
We all like Red Ken - or certainly he seems to be relatively criticism free - so it appears if anything it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the guy himself .
I wonder if they have a ciggie with that.
Indeed Reg. I enjoy Ken and David, George Galloway was excellent on TalkSPORT. It's not really politics that ensures Brian gets so much criticism. It's his pomposity, smugness, rudeness and general hypocrisy.
A family holiday.
Nick Abbot is an excellent presenter and one of my favourite all-time presenters on LBC.
Thanks Charlie, the bit I heard, he was talking how Pyramids were measured in inches and about a old Chinese proverb, so maybe a different caller on the same topic...
Mine too.
I compare Nick to the presenters/DJs of the great days of offshore radio, when it was exciting to listen to, the presenter had a personality and you couldn't wait for them to come on-air. I still get that with Nick.
All of which applies to Galloway in my opinion. His staple in a debate where the caller is making a valid point is to lead the conversation to a point where he use the accusation of racism, leading to cutting the caller off as he will not 'deal with these people'.
Quite. Also I'm sure Gobber would agree with Wilde that, "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." Being ignored is what his type hates most.
The Chinese proverb was (apparently) 'You have no problems'.
Total recall!
Agreed, he's great.
This is a wind-up, right?
He's trying to see if he can get on every single show, every single day for 6 months.....feels like that anyway :kitty:
Think I might give BBC Radio London another try...