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    StrakerStraker Posts: 79,659
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    Reminded me of Fallen, that Denzel Washington film. I liked that....this notsomuch.
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    vauxhall1964vauxhall1964 Posts: 10,360
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    Andy2 wrote: »
    It's intriguing enough to keep me watching for now. However, why on Earth cast John Simm to play an American? His accent is laughable, :

    No it's not. You think the Yanks would've a) cast him in the first place and b) shot the whole series with him doing a bad accent? Obviously not.
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    Omniconsumer93Omniconsumer93 Posts: 735
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    Christ, you lot are hard to please aren't you?
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    I couldn't quite work out why in the opening scene, the young girl was so frightened of the cheap gold painted plastic 45rpm record adapter held by one of the intruders (they are used to convert "wide holed" USA records so they can be played on UK record turntables, which take records with small holes). I've got a whole box of them and they do nothing for me.
    But perhaps, she being born in the iPod era, hadn't a clue what it was. I don't think she'll be on her own.

    That's as far as I got and didn't bother to watch any further.
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    miss buzzybeemiss buzzybee Posts: 16,429
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    Struggled through the first episode and couldn't take no more. All it made me wish for is for The Fall to hurry up and return!
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    RichmondBlueRichmondBlue Posts: 21,279
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    I didn't even know John Simm was supposed to be playing an American, but I suppose he must have been being ex FBI.
    I haven't a clue what was going on, and it didn't really grab my attention enough to make me determined to find out. Pity, because I usually like this supernatural/sci-fi type of stuff, but this just didn't do it for me. I don't know what they spent, but it all seemed a bit low-budget to me. For that to work, it needs to be strongly character led, this wasn't.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 18
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    No it's not. You think the Yanks would've a) cast him in the first place and b) shot the whole series with him doing a bad accent? Obviously not.

    It's made mostly be BBC America. I think you'll find the inclusion of Simms is to keep the UK happy; it failed!
    If you want to hear a British person do an American accent properly, listen to Jason Isaacs in the in the regrettably cancelled TV show 'Awake'
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    ChrissieAOChrissieAO Posts: 5,143
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    AllKath wrote: »
    It's made mostly be BBC America. I think you'll find the inclusion of Simms is to keep the UK happy; it failed!
    If you want to hear a British person do an American accent properly, listen to Jason Isaacs in the in the regrettably cancelled TV show 'Awake'

    You would also go some to beat Damien Lewis's accent in Homeland,
    Regarding Intruders, as much as I like John Simm I am not going to be watching next week, the storyline is just too weird and disjointed.
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    MR. MacavityMR. Macavity Posts: 3,877
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    Quite intriguing, I'll be sticking around, wouldn't be surprised to see a hefty drop-off between the 2 episodes though, as dramas where you don't really know what's happening / going to to happen before the opening credits have finished rolling don't seem to have the quite audience retention of days gone by. Liked the location settings.

    Not totally convinced with the casting of John Simm, but James Frain was quite splendid as always, I did not find myself noticing his accent as much as Simm's for some reason :-)
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    StrakerStraker Posts: 79,659
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    Liked the location settings.

    Vancouver and the Pacific Northwest. The most filmed locations on Earth.
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    Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,949
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    No it's not. You think the Yanks would've a) cast him in the first place and b) shot the whole series with him doing a bad accent? Obviously not.

    Yes it is! Not only is it unlike any real US accent I've heard, it varies from scene to scene - sometimes it's a really strong twang (rather like schoolboys do an American cowboy accent), in others you can tell he's English a mile off. It's poor.
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    Gill PGill P Posts: 21,593
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    Is this the programme with James Frain in it? He was Thomas Cromwell in The Tudors.
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    MybelleMybelle Posts: 258
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    Struggled through the first episode and couldn't take no more. All it made me wish for is for The Fall to hurry up and return!

    I agree. Far superior acting in The Fall and not forgetting Jamie Dornan being easier on the eye than John Simm (sorry, that's very shallow).:D
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    oldhagoldhag Posts: 2,539
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    I can't take John Simms accent seriously
    Straker wrote: »
    I have no idea what is going on in this.
    spookyLX wrote: »
    I gave up after half an hour
    filmfan7 wrote: »
    John Simms acting talents are wasted in this rubbish !

    My viewing talents gave up on me.
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    Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,949
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    I couldn't quite work out why in the opening scene, the young girl was so frightened of the cheap gold painted plastic 45rpm record adapter held by one of the intruders (they are used to convert "wide holed" USA records so they can be played on UK record turntables, which take records with small holes). I've got a whole box of them and they do nothing for me.
    But perhaps, she being born in the iPod era, hadn't a clue what it was. I don't think she'll be on her own.

    That's as far as I got and didn't bother to watch any further.

    Yes, I noticed that too. I suppose you have to be of a certain age.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    Andy2 wrote: »
    Yes, I noticed that too. I suppose you have to be of a certain age.

    Perhaps she thought they were threatening to play a Culture Club record "at her?"
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    KapellmeisterKapellmeister Posts: 41,322
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    Mybelle wrote: »
    I agree. Far superior acting in The Fall and not forgetting Jamie Dornan being easier on the eye than John Simm (sorry, that's very shallow).:D

    Shallow but true! ;-)

    I found it disjointed too. They didn't linger on one scene for more than a minute or so before cutting to somewhere else in a completely different place and with completely different characters.

    I only watched the first episode live but will watch the second that I've recorded and I'll see how I feel after that.
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    DeltaBluesDeltaBlues Posts: 4,256
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    Struggled through the first episode and couldn't take no more. All it made me wish for is for The Fall to hurry up and return!
    I haven't a clue what was going on, and it didn't really grab my attention enough to make me determined to find out. Pity, because I usually like this supernatural/sci-fi type of stuff, but this just didn't do it for me. I don't know what they spent, but it all seemed a bit low-budget to me. For that to work, it needs to be strongly character led, this wasn't.

    Same here on both counts. I am usually happy to see how things warm up and give a new series a chance, but this just didn't grab me. Too disjointed and no engaging characters.

    Annoyingly I watched it in real time as I was already on BBC2 from University Challenge and Only Connect, so when the trail came on I thought "okay, sounds interesting, I'll give it a go" and forgot about Gotham. I'll have to catch up with the latter on demand - I won't be making the same mistake next week.
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    prehensileprehensile Posts: 5,098
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    I enjoyed it mostly, and will be back for more. Didn't really notice Simm's accent at all which I suppose means that (to my ears anyway) it must have been ok, or at least not horribly wrong.

    I thought Millie Brown as Madison/Marcus was the star of the first 2 episodes. Fantastic acting from one so young. Also enjoyed James Frain as Shepherd - still not sure if he is a baddie or a goodie though :)
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    MR. MacavityMR. Macavity Posts: 3,877
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    prehensile wrote: »
    I enjoyed it mostly, and will be back for more. Didn't really notice Simm's accent at all which I suppose means that (to my ears anyway) it must have been ok, or at least not horribly wrong.

    I thought Millie Brown as Madison/Marcus was the star of the first 2 episodes. Fantastic acting from one so young. Also enjoyed James Frain as Shepherd - still not sure if he is a baddie or a goodie though :)

    Yes, as always I have to give any character played by James Frain the benefit of the doubt for the time being! :)
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    petelypetely Posts: 2,994
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    Christ, you lot are hard to please aren't you?
    Nope: dead easy.
    All it needs is a fairly interesting and moderately engaging script. Mix in some actors who have been half-decently directed and an production team that knows even the first, most basic things about making a TV series: such as getting the lighting so the audience can actually SEE what's going on (remembering that 99% will be watching in a well-lit room), or that people start off wanting to know what the hell is going on and that if you're going to take peoples' time you owe it to them to set out your stall early with a clear idea of what they're going to see.

    As it was, the first 5 minutes up to the introductory titles told us nothing about the programme, was poorly lit and had the cheesy acting (supposedly the girl was in a trance?) you'd expect from an old horror movie. It didn't get much better after that, either.

    I've lost patience with this kind of self-indulgent "just bear with us, we're trying to set the scene" programming. There are many alternative ways to entertain oneself apart from watching TV and if this is the standard of the programme, then I can easily switch off and find something more fulfilling to do.
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    filmfan7filmfan7 Posts: 3,429
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    AllKath wrote: »
    It's made mostly be BBC America. I think you'll find the inclusion of Simms is to keep the UK happy; it failed!
    If you want to hear a British person do an American accent properly, listen to Jason Isaacs in the in the regrettably cancelled TV show 'Awake'

    or Soraoise Ronans american accent in The Lovely Bones film is Excellent !.. .why cant John use his english accent in this drama ?!
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    Parker45Parker45 Posts: 5,854
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    This was great! Obviously too complex for most people here!
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    steviexsteviex Posts: 132,416
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    spookyLX wrote: »
    I gave up after half an hour

    I gave up after 10 minutes!! :o
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    StrakerStraker Posts: 79,659
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    Parker45 wrote: »
    This was great! Obviously too complex for most people here!

    What does it say about you that you cannot express your liking for this without maligning other posters? Hmmmmmm.........?
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