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My theory on who Missy is
Rossby41
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After thinking of The Doctor's Wife episode. I think Missy might be a rouge element of the TARDIS, and it's teleporting these people just before they die, into a hidden part of the TARDIS. What makes me think this is Deep Breath, she says "Expect to me of course, because he loves so much", and commenting on his accent.
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While it may have been possible that was the case with Gretchen in Into the Dalek you can hardly say the same for the Police Officer in The Caretaker.
Heaven may well be a cyberman upgrade... Heaven is perfect Cybermen want perfection via upgrades.
She is simply the interface people see when they are being converted.
She called the Doctor her Boyfriend as the Doctor has been responsible for many deaths, and thus feels there is a connection to him
I case you haven't noticed, I'm not a huge poster here. I did look back and couldn't find anything.
Surely anyone (or anything) who can teleport a person out of danger milliseconds before expiring can also teleport a burnt hand (or even a whole fake corpse) back to replace said person.
They didn't really confirm anything, they just gave some names that people might know their realm as. They didn't give away any clues as to what that realm may be, what was outside the window, or who Missy is.
We've seen Data Ghosts of people who have died being stored in a giant computer.
The People were dead but the Data Ghosts were not in the Afterlife.
Just cause a bloke behind a desk tells you it's the Afterlife doesn't make it so.
it's not just the fact that they named it as the afterlife but also the fact that the police officer said 'I don't know how I got away, and the other guy said 'you didn't'. I personally feel the two together don't leave a lot of room for ambiguity. They always give you a bit more info about the arc as the series goes on and this was the extra bit they decided the series was furth enough along that we could now be told.
If a character in that land/world physically telling you it's the afterlife isn't confirmation I don't know what is.
I almost get the impression that people don't want it to be the case but I think the fact that it's the afterlife is quite interesting.
And Donna believed (and was told by a person in that land/ World) that she was living in the 20th/21st Century and was married with two kids.
Yet in reality she was a series of Ones and Zeros in a 51st Century Computer.
Why would they have needed to? No witnesses, no mention again of the body? There is absolutely no need for that level of complexity in that situation. And it seems quite a gigantic leap of (il)logic to come to that! Occam's razor*...
*obviously, as Occam's razor suggests, the more complex solution might ultimately be correct, but with very few details in place, it seems foolish to go with it.
So, if you woke up in a strange place and a man behind a desk told you that it was the afterlife, you'd just take his word for it?
Note to self: potentially the best April Fools joke ever...
What I don't get is people wondering why I do believe what we were told, when my question to those people is what is such a good reason to not believe it. I can only guess that it actually being the afterlife is different to what people thought it would turn out to be and that's why people are trying to deny the fact that we were given solid information. Not's everythings a double bluff. Often as the series goes on we are given a little more information about the arc, and obviously they thought that half way through was enough to reveal that it is in fact the afterlife.
All we know is that characters who are apparently dead are waking up in a strange place and that some other rather untrustworthy characters are claiming that it's the afterlife. This is what we knew at the end of Deep Breath (I don't think anyone thought 'The Promised Land' meant anything else). Nothing's really changed. I'll be hugely surprised and disappointed if it turns out to be the actual afterlife.
In a nutshell, 'afterlife' simply means that someone died, yet they have a continued existence. And that is nothing we didn't already know. What we need to know is, what is the nature of this particular life-after-death? And what's the reason for its existence in the show?
Maybe Missy is recruiting an army of people in limbo for some unknown reason.
Lol - this is a fabulous theory
Yeah this is from a spoilery private conversation I had with someone in another place back when we still couldn't talk about the first five eps around these parts ...
Good theory otherwise.
Sex appeal? Hmmm... eye of the beholder, I think.
http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Doctor_Who__Who_is_Missy_.jpg
Not always one to defend Moffat, but in this instance I will say that Kate Stewart is a character he has created who is powerful but not in the same way as any of the above characters. She's not even smug, and talk's like a normal person instead in constant quips and one liners. I have a soft spot for river but I really do like Kate Stewart, she is one of Moffat's more original and believable female characters.