Southerners! Explain something!

Gregory Shape · 30/09/13 - 00:52

Right. You know the word 'put'. Everywhere in the world, that is pronounced correctly - ie 'put'. With a u. No one ever says 'pat'.

So how come when a t is added, (putt, as in golf) it becomes 'pat'?

To the point where you pronounce the same word - putting - in a totally different way (patting).

For instance: 'His 'putting' has been 'putting' his driving to shame today.' Genuine question. As a northerner, I can't get my head round it. A u is a u. As in other European languages - why is it different here?!

Ber · 30/09/13 - 00:54

I'm from the south and say put to rhyme with foot

RAINBOWGIRL22 · 30/09/13 - 00:55

Ber wrote: »

I'm from the south and say put to rhyme with foot

I'm a Londoner and I am the same. Put rhymes with foot.

kitty86 · 30/09/13 - 00:56

I'm confused putting (golf) and patting are two completely different sounds.

[Deleted User] · 30/09/13 - 00:56

I'm from London and have no idea what you are talking about. Are you posting in Northerner?

stoatie · 30/09/13 - 00:56

RAINBOWGIRL22 wrote: »

I'm a Londoner and I am the same. Put rhymes with foot.

"Put" rhymes with "foot". "Putt" rhymes with "butt". Neither of them ever rhyme with "cat".

artnada · 30/09/13 - 00:57

I'm a Gloucestershire and say put to rhyme with foot

designer84 · 30/09/13 - 00:57

I say put to rhyme with foot also and I'm in Kent

skp20040 · 30/09/13 - 00:57

Gregory Shape wrote: »

Right. You know the word 'put'. Everywhere in the world, that is pronounced correctly - ie 'put'. With a u. No one ever says 'pat'.

So how come when a t is added, (putt, as in golf) it becomes 'pat'?

To the point where you pronounce the same word - putting - in a totally different way (patting).

For instance: 'His 'putting' has been 'putting' his driving to shame today.' Genuine question. As a northerner, I can't get my head round it. A u is a u. As in other European languages - why is it different here?!

Southerners , that's about a big a generalisation as Northerners . I have never heard anyone in London for instance say pat instead of putt, which area of the South of the country are you referring to , is it the accent and dialect maybe of that area ?

Jane Doh! · 30/09/13 - 00:57

Gregory Shape wrote: »

Right. You know the word 'put'. Everywhere in the world, that is pronounced correctly - ie 'put'. With a u. No one ever says 'pat'.

So how come when a t is added, (putt, as in golf) it becomes 'pat'?

To the point where you pronounce the same word - putting - in a totally different way (patting).

For instance: 'His 'putting' has been 'putting' his driving to shame today.' Genuine question. As a northerner, I can't get my head round it. A u is a u. As in other European languages - why is it different here?!

It never becomes "pat". What are you on about?

Gregory Shape · 30/09/13 - 00:59

Ok, clearly something was lost in translation. Here's another example then.

How do you say 'bush' and 'rush'?

Ber · 30/09/13 - 00:59

Putt as in golf rhymes with but.

Numerous words with the same or similar spellings are pronounced differently. It's not something unique to the south

artnada · 30/09/13 - 01:00

Gregory Shape wrote: »

Ok, clearly something was lost in translation. Here's another example then.

How do you say 'bush' and 'rush'?

I say it as bush and rush

stoatie · 30/09/13 - 01:00

ITT- we learn that people in different areas have different accents. Who knew?

Aneechik · 30/09/13 - 01:00

I've never in my life heard anyone pronounce "put" the way it's suggested here.

Ber · 30/09/13 - 01:00

Gregory Shape wrote: »

Ok, clearly something was lost in translation. Here's another example then.

How do you say 'bush' and 'rush'?

How do you pronounce read, read, reed and Reid?

kitty86 · 30/09/13 - 01:00

I think the U stays the same the sound of put to putt is due to the extra T. Like others have said I've never heard it pronounced with an A.

Gregory Shape · 30/09/13 - 01:01

Jane Doh! wrote: »

It never becomes "pat". What are you on about?

If you ever watch golf on Sky (I'm guessing you don't) it really does become 'pat'. Therefore the word 'putting' has two different pronunciations, depending whether they're talking about hitting a golf ball towards a hole or not.

wackyw · 30/09/13 - 01:01

You been on the sauce today Gregory ?

designer84 · 30/09/13 - 01:01

Gregory Shape wrote: »

Ok, clearly something was lost in translation. Here's another example then.

How do you say 'bush' and 'rush'?

I say Bush with an uh sound and the same with rush

Ber · 30/09/13 - 01:02

Gregory Shape wrote: »

If you ever watch golf on Sky (I'm guessing you don't) it really does become 'pat'. Therefore the word 'putting' has two different pronunciations, depending whether they're talking about hitting a golf ball towards a hole or not.

Indeed. So do many words.

artnada · 30/09/13 - 01:02

Gregory Shape wrote: »

If you ever watch golf on Sky (I'm guessing you don't) it really does become 'pat'. Therefore the word 'putting' has two different pronunciations, depending whether they're talking about hitting a golf ball towards a hole or not.

Accent.

I've never heard it as patting. Patting would be like "patting the dog for being a good boy"

JunglistSoldier · 30/09/13 - 01:03

Gregory Shape wrote: »

Right. You know the word 'put'. Everywhere in the world, that is pronounced correctly - ie 'put'. With a u. No one ever says 'pat'.

So how come when a t is added, (putt, as in golf) it becomes 'pat'?

To the point where you pronounce the same word - putting - in a totally different way (patting).

For instance: 'His 'putting' has been 'putting' his driving to shame today.' Genuine question. As a northerner, I can't get my head round it. A u is a u. As in other European languages - why is it different here?!

I'm a Londoner who plays golf often and none of my friends say pat instead of putt. Where are you getting this from?

skp20040 · 30/09/13 - 01:03

Gregory Shape wrote: »

Ok, clearly something was lost in translation. Here's another example then.

How do you say 'bush' and 'rush'?

Bush as in

http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/bush

and rush as in

http://howjsay.com/index.php?word=rush

Gregory Shape · 30/09/13 - 01:03

stoatie wrote: »

ITT- we learn that people in different areas have different accents. Who knew?

Yes, of course. My point was - and is - why is the same word (putting) pronounced differently?

Gregory Shape · 30/09/13 - 01:05

wackyw wrote: »

You been on the sauce today Gregory ?

Yes, but the point is still valid. Volid. Vulid. Etc.

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