Its just a pity he does not get as angry about the poverty and inequalities that exist in this country much of it created and exacerbated by his own governments policies. He really is an insincere first class hypocrite.
That'll be "the poverty and inequalities" that Labour created and past on the the Coalition Government.
Why on earth do you think people would be 'ashamed to say they are voting Labour' - thus depressing their poll results. They are the opposition - and its not 2003 and Iraq war time. - and an establishment party.
I would have thought given the constant onslaught against UKIP in the media its more likely to depress their share in the polls if anyone's.
I would say that the media are doing UKIP a lot of favours with all the talk of the EU demanding £1.7 billion from the UK but it looks like if the media are not licking Nigels butt then in their eyes the media is biased against them Paranoia again from Kipsters
For god's sake, as the obvious socialist that you are, do you have any concept of the outrageousness of us being asked to pay this bill?
No I don't, do you have any idea of what an utter t*** Cameron must have looked to the rest of the EU countries?
Apparently we have the fastest growing economy in the world, Osborne and the beloved leader were boasting about how much better than the rest of the EU, especially France and Germany, we are doing, how they have preformed a miraculous turn around in our economy while the rest of the world (run by complete idiots obviously) is lagging way behind,
remember these are the guys who promised to spend more than Labour, and who praised the Irish economy before the last election, as well as demanding even less regulation of the banking and financial sectors, obviously have/had their fingers on the economic pulse of the world eh? so we should all believe without question this modern day miracle,
the same guys who tell us "we are all in it together" the same guys who have brutally imposed crippling financial burdens onto the poorest and most vulnerable members of our society, with an attitude of "can't afford it? then TOUGH"
and now you expect me to feel even the slightest sympathy for the whiner?
We are members of the EU, we send and have representatives from our government/country at every high level EU meeting and the fact that the whiner is acting like he didn't see this coming is yet another sign of his parties incompetence,
I believe that is the question that should be being asked, or the point that should be being raised,..... no wait,... it's Labour's fault obviously.
if we can't afford it perhaps we could cancel trident? or HS2? or we could even ask the rich to......... nah, now THAT is an "outrageous concept" to the Tories,
I have no doubt whatsoever that it will be the poor the vulnerable and the low paid who will be made to pay this money, (mark my words)
Dave and his chums certainly won't be one penny out of pocket. So spare us the outrage.
I have no doubt whatsoever that it will be the poor the vulnerable and the low paid who will be made to pay this money, (mark my words)
Dave and his chums certainly won't be one penny out of pocket. So spare us the outrage.
Typical "I want someone else to pay" attitude you get from the left who somehow "forget" that "the rich" (who they can't define but I am calling the top 1% of income earners) already pay almost 1/3 of the total income tax collected by HMRC.
Typical "I want someone else to pay" attitude you get from the left who somehow "forget" that "the rich" (who they can't define but I am calling the top 1% of income earners) already pay almost 1/3 of the total income tax collected by HMRC.
...out of the income that is undeservedly concentrated in their hands.
...out of the income that is undeservedly concentrated in their hands.
Jealousy is probably the ugliest trait, usually exhibited by those that are not prepared to work hard to earn a decent income, but are quite happy to demand that those that do pay more and more in tax.
Jealousy is probably the ugliest trait, usually exhibited by those that are not prepared to work hard to earn a decent income, but are quite happy to demand that those that do pay more and more in tax.
Why don't these rich people pay a living wage instead of the government having to pay over £12 billion a year to people in full time work in housing benefits?
The richest are laughing as the government pay the money they should be paying
Jealousy is probably the ugliest trait, usually exhibited by those that are not prepared to work hard to earn a decent income, but are quite happy to demand that those that do pay more and more in tax.
Most poor people work .Most poor people work hard.
The flaw is a system that creates this situation ,the flaw isnt people who have a grievance with this systems disparity.
Typical "I want someone else to pay" attitude you get from the left who somehow "forget" that "the rich" (who they can't define but I am calling the top 1% of income earners) already pay almost 1/3 of the total income tax collected by HMRC.
Did I say "I want someone else to pay"? cause I can't see where I did, but then that's the "typical" "I,m OK Jack stuff everyone else" attitude we get from the rich/right wing,
SEE that? we can all do sweeping generalisations, ignorance and prejudice is free and costs nowt for the rich or the poor,
Now then, you say "they" can't define rich, can YOU define poor? or "the left"? prejudice isnt a one way street old chap.
Tell you what would satisfy me, I don't give a flying one if someone pays 50, 60, 70% tax, I really don't because IF I had a personal wealth of 50 million pounds and was told I owe 50% of of that in tax I would be more than happy to have a personal wealth of 25 million pounds,
on the other hand, if I had a 'personal wealth' of 100 quid and was told that I had to pay 10% of that in tax, it would have quite a significant impact on my life, because a loaf of bread cost the same for me as it does for the guy with 50 mill,
so lets do it this way, I will gladly pay 15% of every penny I have, if the guy with 50 million will do likewise, and please lets not hear any of the garbage about "envy" that some of the wealthy like to use whenever anyone asks for a 'fairer' system,
I don't begrudge anyone anything they have worked for, EVEN when it really means "that other people 'worked' for" there are plenty of 'rich' people who I have the utmost respect for,
what really pisses me off is when it's only "hard work" when it makes lots of money, anyone who is poor 'obviously' has never "worked hard"
"All in it together" what an F-ing insult to people who are having to struggle to feed their kids and keep a roof over their heads.
Jealousy is probably the ugliest trait, usually exhibited by those that are not prepared to work hard to earn a decent income, but are quite happy to demand that those that do pay more and more in tax.
Jealousy is probably the ugliest trait, usually exhibited by those that are not prepared to work hard to earn a decent income, but are quite happy to demand that those that do pay more and more in tax.
Ever worked down a coal mine? I have,
ever worked shifts on a steelworks? I have,
ever worked on an iron foundry? I have,
ever worked permanent nights of over 3 years on a factory? I have,
ever worked as a stage hand/roadie in the music business, some times working back to back 15/18 hour days to meet a show deadline? I have,
I assure you I am perfectly acquainted with "hard work"
That'll be "the poverty and inequalities" that Labour created and past on the the Coalition Government.
Of course they did, both parties records on poverty speak for themselves, Labour through the Minimum Wage, Tax Credits, investment in Education and Heath lifted almost 2m people out of poverty, under the current government over 600,000 have now dropped back into poverty with no doubt more to follow. Thank god its only 6 months until they are gone and we can get back to a government that actually attempts to help all its citizens and not just line the pockets of the few.
I assume that the groundwork for this was done before yesterday's nonsense with the EU? If so it's worrying for Labour as their working class supporters are going to be susceptible to any us v them spat Cameron decides to have with Europe. Ok, it's not the Falklands but it could be enough to push the balance.
I assume that the groundwork for this was done before yesterday's nonsense with the EU? If so it's worrying for Labour as their working class supporters are going to be susceptible to any us v them spat Cameron decides to have with Europe. Ok, it's not the Falklands but it could be enough to push the balance.
Plus the Labour in-fighting over Scotland won't help them. But these poll results would still make Labour the largest party by a good margin. At this point it's still not possible for anyone to be quietly confident about the result next May.
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That'll be "the poverty and inequalities" that Labour created and past on the the Coalition Government.
I would say that the media are doing UKIP a lot of favours with all the talk of the EU demanding £1.7 billion from the UK but it looks like if the media are not licking Nigels butt then in their eyes the media is biased against them Paranoia again from Kipsters
I doubt many people are convinced by Cameron on EU matters now, and those who claim otherwise I don't think are being sincere.
No I don't, do you have any idea of what an utter t*** Cameron must have looked to the rest of the EU countries?
Apparently we have the fastest growing economy in the world, Osborne and the beloved leader were boasting about how much better than the rest of the EU, especially France and Germany, we are doing, how they have preformed a miraculous turn around in our economy while the rest of the world (run by complete idiots obviously) is lagging way behind,
remember these are the guys who promised to spend more than Labour, and who praised the Irish economy before the last election, as well as demanding even less regulation of the banking and financial sectors, obviously have/had their fingers on the economic pulse of the world eh? so we should all believe without question this modern day miracle,
the same guys who tell us "we are all in it together" the same guys who have brutally imposed crippling financial burdens onto the poorest and most vulnerable members of our society, with an attitude of "can't afford it? then TOUGH"
and now you expect me to feel even the slightest sympathy for the whiner?
We are members of the EU, we send and have representatives from our government/country at every high level EU meeting and the fact that the whiner is acting like he didn't see this coming is yet another sign of his parties incompetence,
I believe that is the question that should be being asked, or the point that should be being raised,..... no wait,... it's Labour's fault obviously.
if we can't afford it perhaps we could cancel trident? or HS2? or we could even ask the rich to......... nah, now THAT is an "outrageous concept" to the Tories,
I have no doubt whatsoever that it will be the poor the vulnerable and the low paid who will be made to pay this money, (mark my words)
Dave and his chums certainly won't be one penny out of pocket. So spare us the outrage.
Typical "I want someone else to pay" attitude you get from the left who somehow "forget" that "the rich" (who they can't define but I am calling the top 1% of income earners) already pay almost 1/3 of the total income tax collected by HMRC.
...out of the income that is undeservedly concentrated in their hands.
Jealousy is probably the ugliest trait, usually exhibited by those that are not prepared to work hard to earn a decent income, but are quite happy to demand that those that do pay more and more in tax.
Why don't these rich people pay a living wage instead of the government having to pay over £12 billion a year to people in full time work in housing benefits?
The richest are laughing as the government pay the money they should be paying
Most poor people work .Most poor people work hard.
The flaw is a system that creates this situation ,the flaw isnt people who have a grievance with this systems disparity.
Did I say "I want someone else to pay"? cause I can't see where I did, but then that's the "typical" "I,m OK Jack stuff everyone else" attitude we get from the rich/right wing,
SEE that? we can all do sweeping generalisations, ignorance and prejudice is free and costs nowt for the rich or the poor,
Now then, you say "they" can't define rich, can YOU define poor? or "the left"? prejudice isnt a one way street old chap.
Tell you what would satisfy me, I don't give a flying one if someone pays 50, 60, 70% tax, I really don't because IF I had a personal wealth of 50 million pounds and was told I owe 50% of of that in tax I would be more than happy to have a personal wealth of 25 million pounds,
on the other hand, if I had a 'personal wealth' of 100 quid and was told that I had to pay 10% of that in tax, it would have quite a significant impact on my life, because a loaf of bread cost the same for me as it does for the guy with 50 mill,
so lets do it this way, I will gladly pay 15% of every penny I have, if the guy with 50 million will do likewise,
and please lets not hear any of the garbage about "envy" that some of the wealthy like to use whenever anyone asks for a 'fairer' system,
I don't begrudge anyone anything they have worked for, EVEN when it really means "that other people 'worked' for" there are plenty of 'rich' people who I have the utmost respect for,
what really pisses me off is when it's only "hard work" when it makes lots of money, anyone who is poor 'obviously' has never "worked hard"
"All in it together" what an F-ing insult to people who are having to struggle to feed their kids and keep a roof over their heads.
EDIT BIB I was too slow,
Ever worked down a coal mine? I have,
ever worked shifts on a steelworks? I have,
ever worked on an iron foundry? I have,
ever worked permanent nights of over 3 years on a factory? I have,
ever worked as a stage hand/roadie in the music business, some times working back to back 15/18 hour days to meet a show deadline? I have,
I assure you I am perfectly acquainted with "hard work"
Of course they did, both parties records on poverty speak for themselves, Labour through the Minimum Wage, Tax Credits, investment in Education and Heath lifted almost 2m people out of poverty, under the current government over 600,000 have now dropped back into poverty with no doubt more to follow. Thank god its only 6 months until they are gone and we can get back to a government that actually attempts to help all its citizens and not just line the pockets of the few.
CON: 33% (+5)
LAB: 33% (-2)
LD: 6% (-3)
UKIP: 18% (+1)
Tories and Labour tied.
Do you have the respective Con Lab LD UKIP percentages from a year ago? I know that some posters keep them.
Jol?
Where's Jol?
Jol?
Observer/Opinium - 1st November 2013
Con 31%
Lab 37%
LD 7%
UKIP 16%
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2
Taking into account the Margin of Error, The poll is basically identical to today's.
Thank you, very much appreciated.:)
Seems the UKIP Calypso song has had no negative affect.;-):p
The last Opinium poll for October 2013 had:
CON: 27%
LAB: 38%
LD: 9%
Labour had 11% lead. For Tiger2000 to say that the polls this October are identical given MoE is false. The Tories are up 6, Labour down 5.
Yeh......Cameron and his fake staged managed out bursts. Well good luck with that. Most people won't fall for anything he ever promises ever again.
CON: 33%
GRN: 6%
LAB: 33%
LD: 7%
UKIP: 16%
Conservatives and Labour tied again.
I assume that the groundwork for this was done before yesterday's nonsense with the EU? If so it's worrying for Labour as their working class supporters are going to be susceptible to any us v them spat Cameron decides to have with Europe. Ok, it's not the Falklands but it could be enough to push the balance.
Plus the Labour in-fighting over Scotland won't help them. But these poll results would still make Labour the largest party by a good margin. At this point it's still not possible for anyone to be quietly confident about the result next May.
Many thanks.:):)