Should the themes just be music genres?
TheGraduate2012
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Flimsy themes like 'Night at the Movies', 'Numbers Ones' and 'Halloween' can be fun but are pretty pointless in terms of showcasing a potential artists range of ability. So, would it be better if ALL contestant had to do a specific genre every week, to show which contestant really can 'do it all'.
I was thinking something like:
Week 1 - Rock
Week 2 - Pop
Week 3 - Disco
Week 4 - Soul/Motown
Week 5 - Hip-Hop
Week 6 - Jazz
Week 7 - Country
Week 8 - R&B
Week 9 - Dance
Week 10 - Ballad
I know a lot of these genres can overlap but it's hard to think of 10 distinct genres, and I know 'Ballad' isn't exactly a genre but I couldn't think of anything else.
What do you think?
I was thinking something like:
Week 1 - Rock
Week 2 - Pop
Week 3 - Disco
Week 4 - Soul/Motown
Week 5 - Hip-Hop
Week 6 - Jazz
Week 7 - Country
Week 8 - R&B
Week 9 - Dance
Week 10 - Ballad
I know a lot of these genres can overlap but it's hard to think of 10 distinct genres, and I know 'Ballad' isn't exactly a genre but I couldn't think of anything else.
What do you think?
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I doubt any would able to do hip hop other than maybe one or two acts...
why should a contestant have to show they can "do it all" ?
the show needs themes imo , it gives some structure but the themes should be fairly generic to allow each contestant to be able to show versatility within their genre without being forced to go outside it
very few established acts could be able to switch between more than a couple of genres but at same time they do enough not to be just one trick ponies , its finding that balance being showing enough range without being too predictable that's key
I think so. I would've necessarily mind that. I just think music genre themes would at least give people a chance to try different kind of songs.
That's my point though. The 'generic themes' make them the exact opposite of themes. They're not specific enough. And the judges constantly disregard them anyway. I think if they were at least made (for want of a better word) to do different genres, it would prove which act had most talents. I wouldn't mind a bit of tweaking to suit the artist's individual style though.
and if they wanted to there was nothing stopping any of the acts trying different type of songs with the themes we have had so far
I would assume every type of genre you can think of has been a #1 or used in a movie and most were around in the 80s
the themes aren't to blame for crap song choices or of acts not showing versatility , the lack of imagination of the producers and limited catalogue of songs available does that
Well obviously. What genre has NEVER had a #1. Your other point about the movies/80s just proves that they are useless themes, because literally ANY type of song could be included into them.
The point in specific is to put the acts through their paces and pull out the true talents from the one-trick ponies. To make it an actual challenge/competition. not just a popularity contest.
why should an act like fleur be forced to do big band tho , or andrea do disco , or paul do hip hop etc etc
its not something they will ever have to consider doing in the real world
let acts stay within their preferred genre and have themes that are broad enough to allow them to do that , its completely unrealistic to expect them to be a jack of all trades , let them show how good they are at what they are best at , some of them cant even master one genre let alone more than one
and btw I am not advocating they become one trick ponies , it is entirely possible to show versatility and range within a genre
people keep moaning about themes but it really doesn't matter what the themes are if the show keeps picking crap songs
Because watching them - rap, warble and belt gets tiresome.
And how are we to know they won't consider different genres in the future. If Fleur is to have longevity maybe she won't want to rap for 20 years?
If they can sing then they should be able to tackle most styles of music - it's not like we'd be asking to make them sing in a different octave or something. If they can't grasp basic technique if different genres of music, they shouldn't be in a 'singing' competition.
And anyway I did say I wouldn't have a problem with them changing the arrangement of certain songs to suit them. It's not like I'd have them completely thrown in the deep end.
They DON'T show the acts versatility, more and more they have changed songs to suit 'the artist' and stuck to what that person is good at, which is okay, I guess, but it doesn't really challenge them.
The Australian version has used this model in the past, with themes such as Top 10 Hits, Latest and Greatest and Power & Passion. With themes like that, every act can do their preferred genre every week (maybe switch it up once or twice through a 'different' theme that forces them to tackle another genre of their (mentor's) choosing) and show what an album of theirs would sound like. I do agree themes like Night At The Movies and Halloween need to go though, but not for the same reason as you say.
I would like those sort of themes better. I think the major issue of that the acts clearly have a hard time getting to do songs of their own choice.
Watch Strictly then
its you that seems to want to radically change the x factor from how it works atm so that would suggest you are more unhappy with it than I am
maybe you should watch something else ;-)
Nah, I'm just bored ;-)
Thriller or total eclipse of the heart nooooooooooooooo!
BIB - Absolutely that is the problem.
I'm sure every one of us can think of a 100 great songs for each of the themes but there seems to be a tiny pool of dull bland dirges that they're allowed to choose from. It's like they have a copy of Now That's What I Call (insert theme) and they are limited to about 20 songs each week so we get the same crud churned out year after year
It should just be a choice of songs each week between an act and their mentor.
The songlist needs to be expanded pronto!
It's not as if Lauren is going to release a disco album or Ben is going to release a hip-hop album or Fleur is going to release a jazz album so I don't see why they should have to perform songs from those genres each week.
I think the best themes are ones like 80s, #1s or current hits where an act has tonnes of songs to choose from so they get a song that suits them. Good point about the Aussie version though, I keep noticing that songs used a few weeks ago on there are popping up on ours (Somewhere Over The Rainbow and Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow are two more examples just from Chloe)!
Yes, thats a very good idea. Plus, the guest stars could be part of the theme. Hiphop week=rapper, dance=edm, dj etc. Much more fun.