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Thanet South: Where Farage is standing for UKIP.

culturemancultureman Posts: 11,701
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The seat Nigel Farage's has chosen to stand in.

I wonder what this is all about?
A Ukip councillor has been fired for 'jaw-dropping' comments made in a TV interview.

Rozanne Duncan was forced out "without hesitation" for bringing the party into disrepute.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/party-expels-councillor-for-jaw-29019/?fb_ref=Default&fb_source=message
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    Pat_SmithPat_Smith Posts: 2,104
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    Well, it must be a first, to expel someone for comments the nature of which is entirely unknown.
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    Pat_Smith wrote: »
    Well, it must be a first, to expel someone for comments the nature of which is entirely unknown.

    Unknown to us, maybe. Presumably the party know what they said. After all, it was during a TV interview.
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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    Pat_Smith wrote: »
    Well, it must be a first, to expel someone for comments the nature of which is entirely unknown.

    Obviously, those who attended the recording knew what they were, and as UKIP officials would have been there or would have had access to the recording, they too will have known what they were.

    Whatever they were, they must have been very bad indeed
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    BanglaRoadBanglaRoad Posts: 57,594
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    Any ideas what the TV show might be? Will it still be broadcast with the comments included?
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    stoatie wrote: »
    Unknown to us, maybe. Presumably the party know what they said. After all, it was during a TV interview.

    Unknown until the programme is broadcast.
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    Michael_EveMichael_Eve Posts: 14,461
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    Those *bleedin'* sedatives. Stop taking them, Kippers, for gawd's sake.

    (Thinks)

    No, keep taking them!

    Wild guess: Comments might have been just a tad racist. And/or homophobic?
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    MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    I think maybe UKIP needs to check out these Conservative councilllors a bit more thoroughly before allowing them to defect.

    Obviously she was a bigot when she was a member of the Conservative party for years and an elected Tory councillor for years - clearly her views didn't bother the Tories then! Now UKIP has expelled her perhaps she can rejoin her old colleagues?

    http://www.courier.co.uk/Rozanne-Duncan-wins-Cliftonville-East-byelection/story-18938764-detail/story.html

    Its quite shocking what some of those Tories appear to get up to - although they don't seem to get as much mainstream media coverage for it.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/21/westminster-paedophile-ring-dossier-three-3-mps-peers-house-lords_n_6362270.html?icid=maing-grid7|uk|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D316963
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    mimik1ukmimik1uk Posts: 46,701
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    I think maybe UKIP needs to check out these Conservative councilllors a bit more thoroughly before allowing them to defect.

    Obviously she was a bigot when she was a member of the Conservative party for years and an elected Tory councillor for years - clearly her views didn't bother the Tories then! Now UKIP has expelled her perhaps she can rejoin her old colleagues?

    http://www.courier.co.uk/Rozanne-Duncan-wins-Cliftonville-East-byelection/story-18938764-detail/story.html

    Its quite shocking what some of those Tories appear to get up to - although they don't seem to get as much mainstream media coverage for it.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/21/westminster-paedophile-ring-dossier-three-3-mps-peers-house-lords_n_6362270.html?icid=maing-grid7|uk|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D316963

    do UKIP hold courses on deflection techniques for their supporters or is this just something you do naturally ?
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    Pat_SmithPat_Smith Posts: 2,104
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    mimik1uk wrote: »
    do UKIP hold courses on deflection techniques for their supporters or is this just something you do naturally ?


    Actually, very much far from it. I didn't realise she's a former Tory. UKIP has expelled her, yet she wasn't too "radical" for the Tories?

    I think that's highly relevant.
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    mimik1ukmimik1uk Posts: 46,701
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    Pat_Smith wrote: »
    Actually, very much far from it. I didn't realise she's a former Tory. UKIP has expelled her, yet she wasn't too "radical" for the Tories?

    I think that's highly relevant.

    how do you know she wasn't too radical for the tories ?

    given she left them to join a party that she must have thought represented her views better , once we see what they were of course ;-)
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    DaccoDacco Posts: 3,354
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    I do wonder why the media doesn't pay more attention to the filth and bigotry endemic in the main three parties.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    The liberal elite are so desperate for UKIP to fail. :D

    They still don't get that people aren't voting for them or their policies, they are voting against the liberal elite and the establishment.
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    Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    Dacco wrote: »
    I do wonder why the media doesn't pay more attention to the filth and bigotry endemic in the main three parties.

    I take it just about every political sleaze story has passed you by then ? To suggest that a right / left wing paper would ignore sleaze in a left / right wing party if they aren't UKIP is frankly bizarre.
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    Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    The liberal elite are so desperate for UKIP to fail. :D

    They still don't get that people aren't voting for them or their policies, they are voting against the liberal elite and the establishment.

    The Daily Mail is part of the 'liberal elite' :o.
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    angarrackangarrack Posts: 5,493
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    Thanet South Council seems to have a history of problems:

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-21632631

    Never mind. Lets bash UKIP. The media believes its the thing to do at the moment, however flimsy the story or however repetative. The hacks are out in force competing with each other how best to show the Party in a bad light. There seem to be enough UKIP people naive enough to believe the Media are interested in their views whilst actually engaged in an entrapment exercise.

    'Forthcoming tv programme' tells you all you need to know about the motivation behind this.
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    Pat_SmithPat_Smith Posts: 2,104
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    Sniffle774 wrote: »
    The Daily Mail is part of the 'liberal elite' :o.


    Unusually here. They support the Conservatives. In that sense, yes.
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    Pat_SmithPat_Smith Posts: 2,104
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    mimik1uk wrote: »
    how do you know she wasn't too radical for the tories?


    Because she left them. She wasn't booted. UKIP appears to have booted her.
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    Sniffle774 wrote: »
    I take it just about every political sleaze story has passed you by then ? To suggest that a right / left wing paper would ignore sleaze in a left / right wing party if they aren't UKIP is frankly bizarre.

    Exactly. Every party gets this shit. If UKIP wanna play with the big boys, they have to understand that that's how the big boys play.
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    James2001James2001 Posts: 73,671
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    Maybe the reason you hear more of these stories about UKIP is because UKIP members are more prone to saying these things and make these gaffes than any of the big parties.... just sayin'!
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    Michael_EveMichael_Eve Posts: 14,461
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    angarrack wrote: »
    Thanet South Council seems to have a history of problems:

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-21632631

    Never mind. Lets bash UKIP. The media believes its the thing to do at the moment, however flimsy the story or however repetative. The hacks are out in force competing with each other how best to show the Party in a bad light. There seem to be enough UKIP people naive enough to believe the Media are interested in their views whilst actually engaged in an entrapment exercise.

    'Forthcoming tv programme' tells you all you need to know about the motivation behind this.

    Obviously awaiting more details about this case. Was it entrapment? No idea. Don't know what she said yet! Or whether she was on sedatives....
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    RaferRafer Posts: 14,231
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    Can't really pass judgement until we know what was said.
    Hope it wasn't,,
    I agree with Nick.

    There's no place for things like that in British politics.
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    angarrackangarrack Posts: 5,493
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    Obviously awaiting more details about this case. Was it entrapment? No idea. Don't know what she said yet! Or whether she was on sedatives....

    Yes, we simply don't know because the media have chosen not to treat this as a news item.

    Normally journalists want to be first to break the news. Perhaps there are legal reasons for witholding the detail. Alternatively, broadcasting only part of a story suggests that they might be planning to make it part of a bigger splash. In other words part of a polemic documentary rather than as a single news item.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    Sniffle774 wrote: »
    The Daily Mail is part of the 'liberal elite' :o.

    The Daily Mail support the Tories and hate UKIP unlike their readers. Cameron is part of the liberal elite.
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    andyknandykn Posts: 66,849
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    The Daily Mail support the Tories and hate UKIP unlike their readers. Cameron is part of the liberal elite.

    Better than Farage being a member of the banking elite, who, we've found to our cost of billions of pounds, aren't much of an elite ability wise, just wealth wise. Our wealth.
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    RaferRafer Posts: 14,231
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    The Daily Mail support the Tories and hate UKIP unlike their readers. Cameron is part of the liberal elite.

    The Daily mail have been hedging their bets recently. They are still largely pro conservative but they also recognise that (while UKIP are not the solution) UKIP are raising the issues that the man on the street wants to talk about but Cameron (not the conservatives) wants to ignore.
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